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#151
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I'm gonna ask Ms. Norman if this was intentional - because if it is, that's awesome.

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So this is what we know at the moment (please correct me if I'm wrong):

Stasis works on Varren en Klixen - creatures immune to Singularity (haven't tested fenris mechs yet)

Stasis doesn't work on Harbinger, Praetorian, Oculus, Geth Colossus and Thresher Maw; Harby isn't a problem using Singularity or Flashbang to immobilize him.

So we got 2 Praetorian, 1 Oculus, 1 Geth Colossus and the Thresher Maw = 5 enemies who cannot be disabled; everything else is at the mercy of Stasis (and/or other powers) :D

Khuutra wrote...

I'm gonna ask Ms. Norman if this was intentional - because if it is, that's awesome.


Please ask, if it's supposed to work like this, how the formula works.

Kronner wrote...
Bozorgmehr found out that it also works with only one point in Stasis. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/smile.png[/smilie]


I didn't notice any difference between ranks (lol) - melee works too; normal and even elite enemies are killed instantly using one melee attack!

Modifié par Bozorgmehr, 09 septembre 2010 - 07:36 .


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Bozorgmehr wrote...

I didn't notice any difference between ranks (lol) - melee works too; normal and even elite enemies are killed instantly using one melee attack!


Do you mean humanoid enemies? If we assume it is 8-10x damage bonus, not many enemies can take 8 melees lol

But for example Blue Suns Commander should survive that, have you tested melee on him too?

Modifié par Kronner, 09 septembre 2010 - 07:46 .


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Kronner wrote...

Bozorgmehr wrote...

I didn't notice any difference between ranks (lol) - melee works too; normal and even elite enemies are killed instantly using one melee attack!


Do you mean humanoid enemies? If we assume it is 8-10x damage bonus, not many enemies can take 8 melees lol


I only tested this against the SB Engineers and Vanguards, think I'm going back to Heastrom to test this on Geth Hunters and Destroyers too. (note; I'm playing a level 16 VG + all melee dmg gear equiped - don't know how this works when reaching lvl 30)

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Pacifien wrote...

I never found much use for it in ME1 either, not unless you took the Bastion specialization that allowed you to do damage to the enemy you put in Stasis. Perhaps someone out there can make a video that demonstrates what I might be missing about this power.


As stated Christina Normans Developer Diaries, Stasis in Mass Effect 2 is NOT AFFECTED by shields, barriers, or armor.

Basically its a way for Adepts to be less gun dependent for taking down someones defenses.
And its main function is to stop charging Krogan.

And the big deal is this:
You can IMMEDIATELY take a target COMPLTELY out of combat for 9 to12 seconds.
  • That Ymir mech, killing all your crates? Stop him until you can kill the first, then stop the other one while you take out the second.
  • Biotic and shielded/armored targets giving you issues? Take them out of the equation and whittle down their support units
  • And last but not least: KROGAN... MOTHER FREAKING KROGAN. 'Nuff said.

Modifié par Tyfreaky, 09 septembre 2010 - 07:58 .


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can you warp enemies affected by stasis?

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No you can't damage enemies in stasis. Just wait till they drop down and strike.

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No the enemies literally taken out of combat. and untargetable Infernox. Can't shoot em or warp em. Which as has been stated few times above, can also be used to get your squad up if your fighting a single super tough enemy. That massive lone mech take out your squad? Stasis the guy! Your 2 squads will pick them selves up and you can take better positions before it wares off.

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Adhin wrote...

No the enemies literally taken out of combat. and untargetable Infernox. Can't shoot em or warp em. Which as has been stated few times above, can also be used to get your squad up if your fighting a single super tough enemy. That massive lone mech take out your squad? Stasis the guy! Your 2 squads will pick them selves up and you can take better positions before it wares off.


Agreed, make sure you get close to the bastard!

Kronner wrote...

Yes, he had a little shield taken off - one shot and only a little bit of health left. When I tested it two more times to make sure that it was not a one-time accident, I could one-shot the thing easily as long as I was as close as possible.

YMIR Mech vs. Stasis

When I switched to Phalanx, one shot removed almost whole shield. So this is probably great only for burst damage weapons such as charged GPS, Claymore and maybe Evi. (heavy weapons might work too though)

This is not ragdoll only, if you wait until it is on the ground, you will not do nearly as much damage.


Modifié par Bozorgmehr, 09 septembre 2010 - 08:09 .


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Hah yeah, I often run straight up to the guy. I've also noticed that sometimes they take a LONG time to pick them selves back up (the ones you stasis). More so in the LotSB areas them selves. Hell sometimes they'd get up and just kinda... stand around like they where confused up till someone shot em.

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Pacifien wrote...

I never found much use for it in ME1 either, not unless you took the Bastion specialization that allowed you to do damage to the enemy you put in Stasis. Perhaps someone out there can make a video that demonstrates what I might be missing about this power.

Same here I didn't like that power in ME1 and skeptical about it's uses in ME2 but it turns out I like it in the second game. I like the way they tweaked it. I still don't use it that much though but I'm glad they included it.

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Stasis is pure gold on Collector platforms. 1 points is enough. With any luck, by the time enemy platform reaches you, one enemy is up in the air with 2s to free fall..they should give Renegade points for stealing Collector's ground lol
Stasis also seems to "confuse" enemies. I used it on a Scion and the poor bastard could not even turn around :D
I love Stasis.

Modifié par Kronner, 09 septembre 2010 - 10:27 .


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Has there been any word on the stasis ragdoll damage? I've got one point in it on my vanguard and have been one shotting bosses with the evi like nobody's business. Kill everyone but the boss, stasis, one shot, toast.

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Kronner wrote...

Stasis is pure gold on Collector platforms. 1 points is enough. With any luck, by the time enemy platform reaches you, one enemy is up in the air with 2s to free fall..they should give Renegade points for stealing Collector's ground lol
Stasis also seems to "confuse" enemies. I used it on a Scion and the poor bastard could not even turn around :D
I love Stasis.


god, i just so you video of scion falling off platform. not sure what's funnier, that or Grunt charging one

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So wait, you can put one point in stasis, wait five seconds, and then do infinity damage when they fall down.

Lolz.

Looks like I found my new replacement for concussive shot on a soldier.

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Yeah Stasis is pure gold. Always nice when a power is a 1 point wonder but also works incredibly well when maxed. To an extent they're all like that but Stasis just seems a bit more impressive in that area. Even if few of the reasons are glitches.

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Athenau wrote...

So wait, you can put one point in stasis, wait five seconds, and then do infinity damage when they fall down.
Lolz.
Looks like I found my new replacement for concussive shot on a soldier.

Yup, pretty much. Just did the collector ship on my latest vanguard, positively cake walked it. Stasis'ed a scion off the platform, one shotted the other after a stasis, one shotted all the mooks due to claymore, the only thing standing up to more than one shot of anything has harbinger and assassins. Everything else on the map bit the dust in no time. And to top it off I had full cain handy for the preatorean.

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The fall time for humanoid enemies seems really small... Not so sure on that Charge idea. It's like you have to already be shooting at them before Stasis drops if you want to get the shots in on time...

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What happens if you stasis another guy while your first stasis is up? When the first stasis vanishes, does that target fall down?

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Athenau wrote...

What happens if you stasis another guy while your first stasis is up? When the first stasis vanishes, does that target fall down?


I think you lose stasis on the first guy and the second target goes into stasis. You can only have one stasis field active at a time. At least I think thats how it works. It seems like most enemies fall down when stasis wears off. This is nice because it gives you a few seconds to shoot up the target before they can act. I am not sure if heavy units like YMIR mechs and scions fall down when stasis wears off. I am guessing no because I have never even seen a scion off its feet.

As a side note, stasis is awesome with my current character who is a soldier. It is powerful defensive ability against krogan, flamethrower vorcha and geth hunters. If they get to close you can stasis them and relocate to safety. I also use it offensively in certain situations. My technique is to wear down two targets a little with gunfire. Once the shields are out I stasis the farther away target  and charge the first target I then devastate the single enemy with the revenant. If there is time I get a good position on the enemy in stasis. Once it wears off my powers will be done cooling down (even with level 1 stasis and a biotic duration upgrade). Then I activate heightened adrenaline rush and mow the target down.  

Stasis has a lot of utility and is great for managing the higher difficulties!

Modifié par Psython, 10 septembre 2010 - 01:29 .


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As I've stated in this thread already you can only have 1 stasis on at a time and if you use it a second time while you have one up, the other fades and that target falls to the ground. Even Scions fall - they can fall its just rare, only time I've seen it happen besides with Stasis is when Grunt charges one. Just look at Kronner's sig to see what im talking about, literally says Grunt Charges Scion. Which he does, and it falls down... and is hilarious.

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sinosleep wrote...

Has there been any word on the stasis ragdoll damage? I've got one point in it on my vanguard and have been one shotting bosses with the evi like nobody's business. Kill everyone but the boss, stasis, one shot, toast.

Not yet, but I'm sure I'll get a reply at some point.

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Athenau wrote...

What happens if you stasis another guy while your first stasis is up? When the first stasis vanishes, does that target fall down?


I think you lose stasis on the first guy and the second target goes into stasis. You can only have one stasis field active at a time. At least I think thats how it works. It seems like most enemies fall down when stasis wears off. This is nice because it gives you a few seconds to shoot up the target before they can act. I am not sure if heavy units like YMIR mechs and scions fall down when stasis wears off. I am guessing no because I have never even seen a scion off its feet.
As a side note, stasis is awesome with my current character who is a soldier. It is powerful defensive ability against krogan, flamethrower vorcha and geth hunters. If they get to close you can stasis them and relocate to safety. I also use it offensively in certain situations. My technique is to wear down two targets a little with gunfire. Once the shields are out I stasis the farther away target  and charge the first target I then devastate the single enemy with the revenant. If there is time I get a good position on the enemy in stasis. Once it wears off my powers will be done cooling down (even with level 1 stasis and a biotic duration upgrade). Then I activate heightened adrenaline rush and mow the target down.  
Stasis has a lot of utility and is great for managing the higher difficulties!

#174
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Just finished the DLC, gotta agree, Stasis is probably my new favorite bonus power. Can't agree with it being useful on a Soldier, as you need AR too badly to function, but as soon as I get my dude Shepard through to ME2, he's going to Vanguard that junk up with Stasis. Probably go with level 4s of Heavy Charge, Inferno, Squad Cryo, Champion, Deep Stasis, then 1pt Shockwave just because.



Think of the carnage!




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I'm probably only repeating what was already said (didn't read through all the pages) but I love throwing stasis on tough enemies if only because it throws them on the floor and for some reason they seem to take more damage. My Vanguard pummels through most enemies and can keep them on the floor almost permanently because of Stasis.