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[Witch Hunt] Please, Bioware, what must we do to get an unbugged ending?


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Victor Wachter wrote...
In case you have not seen it, I just want to point you to a message from Mark Darrah, Dragon Age Executive Producer on the status of a fix for the Witch Hunt continuity issue (i.e. whether it reacts to Dark Ritual and Morrigan plot points
from DA:O):
http://social.biowar...4/index/4730386 

Thank you very much, Victor - I had not seen it.  I appreciate Bioware giving some attention to this issue.

Modifié par Estelindis, 08 septembre 2010 - 10:19 .


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Okay, so the problem with not recognizing the Dark Ritual only happens if the imported save is one after the ending where your group is back at camp, correct? So if you imported the automatically-created ending save, or a manual save in the throne room during the coronation, those should work correctly; have I got that right?



I just want to see whether I should hold off on playing the DLC until a patch is released, or if I should be good to go.

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We're looking for your help to test a Witch Hunt patch. Click here for details!

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Victor Wachter wrote...


In case you have not seen it, I just want to point you to a message from Mark Darrah, Dragon Age Executive Producer on the status of a fix for the Witch Hunt continuity issue (i.e. whether it reacts to Dark Ritual and Morrigan plot points from DA:O):

http://social.biowar...4/index/4730386




Thank you for pointing that out!  My nerd rage has gone back to a slow boil. :unsure::unsure::unsure:

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I knew you guys wouldn't let us down.



I can't wait for the fix to the Morrigan Dark Ritual issue and also a fix for getting the auto savegame immediately after Witch Hunt is finished, so our final choices will effect DA 2.



I am cool with our Warden and Morrigan taking a holiday from DA 2 and we can start a new character with new romances.



Again, I can't wait for this patch addressing these two issues and then I will take my time and play DA and every single add on and then its DA 2...............sweet.

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Victor Wachter wrote...
We're looking for your help to test a Witch Hunt patch. Click here for details!

Wonderful!  :D  *composes message with my Witch Hunt info*

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For the sake of those who missed it, here is some info from the Morrigan Research Thread.

blademaster7 wrote...

Alright. Here's a little tutorial on how to avoid the bug.

Follow the bold parts if you aren't interested in reading technical issues.

Terra_Ex wrote...

Regarding the bug:

it seems to be caused by the "post-game" in Origins. If you cast your mind back to when we were discussing that "PRC" plot file several months back you remember that the game copied all the ritual flags to a separate plot file before wiping the original, presumably to avoid breaking morrigan's dialogue in the post game.

The choices you make regarding the ritual are stored in clipt_morrigan_ritual.plt (GUID 764C8DAF-F227-4DFE-BC7C-7B32FA2BB0CD) in DA:O. This plot file is wiped if the player loads the post-game save (where they appear at the "On the road" area)  following the coronation scene in DA:O. Its contents are copied to the "PRC" plot file we discussed months ago in the post-game script cam900ar_endgame.nss. The problem is, if the player imports a
Origins/Awakening save where this process has occured, Witch Hunt tries to read the ritual plot flags from the now-cleared plotfile. You can seethe game trying to access the plot file in the logs.

Thus the game believes you didn't do the ritual even if you did. The only feasible workaround for this is to import an origins save from the coronation room (the "final save" might work too) or an Awakening save where you never entered the "post game" of DA:O. Bioware should sort this out imo.

Short version - if you entered the "post game" in Origins, and imported that save into Awakening/Golems/WH you are bugged.


Right after you import your save, check the very first dialogue you have with your dog once the game starts.

blademaster7 wrote...

Here's how to check what flag gets imported. If you are planning on importing a Warden that romanced her  and did the DR then do a bit of testing before you waste 2 hours of your time.

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This is the first conversation with your dog. If #3 is available then it means you did the DR and you got a proper game. If not then either you refused it or you got a buggy save.

If #3 isn't available to pick then try another save.


Hope it helps, and hope my post doesn't get buried.... (can we get it in the first page?)


Modifié par Estelindis, 08 septembre 2010 - 11:56 .


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Thanks Bioware



Woo Woo

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Okay, so I just tried the method cited in blademaster7's post. Even when I use the Post-Campaign save created after defeating the archdemon, I don't get option three ("you'll help me get the child back, won't you?"). No further luck if I try a save from just before fighting the archdemon. Unless this line is just for male Wardens who have fathered the child, I'm still at a loss as to what causes this. Hopefully the upcoming tests will yield some answers.

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Victor Wachter wrote...


In case you have not seen it, I just want to point you to a message from Mark Darrah, Dragon Age Executive Producer on the status of a fix for the Witch Hunt continuity issue (i.e. whether it reacts to Dark Ritual and Morrigan plot points from DA:O):

http://social.biowar...4/index/4730386

I'm glad to see I wasn't the only one who had this problem,just finished witch hunt tonight and it was really weird having Morrigan say I denied her at Redcliffe,which I didn't and still be able to ask about my son.

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Yeah, those of us w/o any DAO saves are now totally doomed I gather. I've been rolling my characters forward since once they went to Awakenings they were "done" in DAO and couldn't go back so to save character slots those DAO saves had to all be exterminated. Wow does that 100% suck.

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I want a refund. If I honestly knew I could go to youtube and watch the big dramatic ending, I wouldn't have wasted my money. There isn't a chance I'll ever replay witch hunt because it was simply no fun. I love DAO, but this was a disaster...

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Sidney wrote...

Yeah, those of us w/o any DAO saves are now totally doomed I gather. I've been rolling my characters forward since once they went to Awakenings they were "done" in DAO and couldn't go back so to save character slots those DAO saves had to all be exterminated. Wow does that 100% suck.


Your not doomed yet, Bioware seems to be doing everything they can in order to making a quick fix for it. So hang tight.

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Estelindis wrote...

Okay, so I just tried the method cited in blademaster7's post. Even when I use the Post-Campaign save created after defeating the archdemon, I don't get option three ("you'll help me get the child back, won't you?"). No further luck if I try a save from just before fighting the archdemon. Unless this line is just for male Wardens who have fathered the child, I'm still at a loss as to what causes this. Hopefully the upcoming tests will yield some answers.


The problem is not to find a save that works but to make all the saves working..

Even if my post-epilogue save will work I won't use that... me and many other people want to follow the whole time-line and then load in Witch Hunt the character that went through Origins -> Awakening -> GoA.
If I'd  load directly the post-epilogue save the time-line would be messed then, and the final save wouldn't include all the decisions from Awakening..and I want them to be included

The problem now is that many of us imported in Awakening their characters from a different save and then it is bugged.. Personally, after 6 playtroughs I don't wanna have to replay Awakening one more time just because after all this time we find out suddenly that there was only 1 save file on a million which worked, and I trust many other people think exactly the same thing..

Modifié par MaxQuartiroli, 09 septembre 2010 - 08:29 .


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Even after reading some of the posts, I am still confused about which save file to load to avoid the dlc bug. So someone please tell me, what save file I need to use for the "Witch Hunt" save game import function, to avoid this bug? Thanks in advance.

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Sidney wrote...

Yeah, those of us w/o any DAO saves are now totally doomed I gather. I've been rolling my characters forward since once they went to Awakenings they were "done" in DAO and couldn't go back so to save character slots those DAO saves had to all be exterminated. Wow does that 100% suck.


Yup, I don't have an Origins save either, does an Awakening save which is of course bugged because I used my origins epilogue to play Return to Ostagar..... sigh.

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snfonseka wrote...

Even after reading some of the posts, I am still confused about which save file to load to avoid the dlc bug. So someone please tell me, what save file I need to use for the "Witch Hunt" save game import function, to avoid this bug? Thanks in advance.


The post-epilogue save of Dragon Age Origins game.. The one which is generated automatically by the game after you defeat the Archdemon. It's the only one which works.

Anyway, if you load it you must remounce to all your Awakening and GoA flags so at the moment you have 2 choices..

- Play Witch Hunt directly from that Origins save and lose all our decisions from Awakening/GoA
- Playing from GoA or Awakening but lose the Dark Ritual flag

Make your choice...

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MaxQuartiroli wrote...

The problem is not to find a save that works but to make all the saves working..


You are exactly right, Max!  Bioware has so failed on this ...
Like many, I played RtO AFTER Origins, with my one and only complete play-though. I used a save from camp and not the epilogue save for this. Nice to know 6 months later my post-RtO save is bugged ...
Since I gave up on this game with the 1.03 / Awakening fiasco, I still have my epilogue save from that playthough. I never installed Awakening, so don't have the same frustration over this as you and many others do...

Furthermore, given how crappy the 1.03 and 1.04 patches have been, any fix they make for the save game issues will probably break more things!!

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I just hope DA2 isn't this buggy in imports

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DarthCaine wrote...

I just hope DA2 isn't this buggy in imports


The only way I could see it not being bad is if they give us an item in our inventory that let's us manually select all our flags, which I doubt will happen. So I'm a little terrified.

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Estelindis wrote...

Okay, so I just tried the method cited in blademaster7's post. Even when I use the Post-Campaign save created after defeating the archdemon, I don't get option three ("you'll help me get the child back, won't you?"). No further luck if I try a save from just before fighting the archdemon. Unless this line is just for male Wardens who have fathered the child, I'm still at a loss as to what causes this. Hopefully the upcoming tests will yield some answers.


Yes Estenlidis, that option is only for male wardens. For my female warden  it wasn't there and i didn't get the bug

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MaxQuartiroli wrote...

snfonseka wrote...

Even after reading some of the posts, I am still confused about which save file to load to avoid the dlc bug. So someone please tell me, what save file I need to use for the "Witch Hunt" save game import function, to avoid this bug? Thanks in advance.


The post-epilogue save of Dragon Age Origins game.. The one which is generated automatically by the game after you defeat the Archdemon. It's the only one which works.

Anyway, if you load it you must remounce to all your Awakening and GoA flags so at the moment you have 2 choices..

- Play Witch Hunt directly from that Origins save and lose all our decisions from Awakening/GoA
- Playing from GoA or Awakening but lose the Dark Ritual flag

Make your choice...


Ok I don't get that, I just played from the Awakening save and she recognized the ritual, at least I thought she did since she mentioned the child is safe somewhere then I ended up going in the mirror with her.

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Birko19 wrote...

MaxQuartiroli wrote...

snfonseka wrote...

Even after reading some of the posts, I am still confused about which save file to load to avoid the dlc bug. So someone please tell me, what save file I need to use for the "Witch Hunt" save game import function, to avoid this bug? Thanks in advance.


If you romanced her there will always be a child, dark ritual or not. You would probably know if you were bugged or not though, because she would say you betrayed her.

The post-epilogue save of Dragon Age Origins game.. The one which is generated automatically by the game after you defeat the Archdemon. It's the only one which works.

Anyway, if you load it you must remounce to all your Awakening and GoA flags so at the moment you have 2 choices..

- Play Witch Hunt directly from that Origins save and lose all our decisions from Awakening/GoA
- Playing from GoA or Awakening but lose the Dark Ritual flag

Make your choice...


Ok I don't get that, I just played from the Awakening save and she recognized the ritual, at least I thought she did since she mentioned the child is safe somewhere then I ended up going in the mirror with her.



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Birko19 wrote...

MaxQuartiroli wrote...

snfonseka wrote...

Even after reading some of the posts, I am still confused about which save file to load to avoid the dlc bug. So someone please tell me, what save file I need to use for the "Witch Hunt" save game import function, to avoid this bug? Thanks in advance.


The post-epilogue save of Dragon Age Origins game.. The one which is generated automatically by the game after you defeat the Archdemon. It's the only one which works.

Anyway, if you load it you must remounce to all your Awakening and GoA flags so at the moment you have 2 choices..

- Play Witch Hunt directly from that Origins save and lose all our decisions from Awakening/GoA
- Playing from GoA or Awakening but lose the Dark Ritual flag

Make your choice...


Ok I don't get that, I just played from the Awakening save and she recognized the ritual, at least I thought she did since she mentioned the child is safe somewhere then I ended up going in the mirror with her.


This means that when you played Awakening you imported a not-bugged Origins save.. Do you remember which save you imported?

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MaxQuartiroli wrote...

Birko19 wrote...

MaxQuartiroli wrote...

snfonseka wrote...

Even after reading some of the posts, I am still confused about which save file to load to avoid the dlc bug. So someone please tell me, what save file I need to use for the "Witch Hunt" save game import function, to avoid this bug? Thanks in advance.


The post-epilogue save of Dragon Age Origins game.. The one which is generated automatically by the game after you defeat the Archdemon. It's the only one which works.

Anyway, if you load it you must remounce to all your Awakening and GoA flags so at the moment you have 2 choices..

- Play Witch Hunt directly from that Origins save and lose all our decisions from Awakening/GoA
- Playing from GoA or Awakening but lose the Dark Ritual flag

Make your choice...


Ok I don't get that, I just played from the Awakening save and she recognized the ritual, at least I thought she did since she mentioned the child is safe somewhere then I ended up going in the mirror with her.


This means that when you played Awakening you imported a not-bugged Origins save.. Do you remember which save you imported?


I am going to give a try to the "Awakening " save first... if it is buggy as most of the ppl mentioned, I will go for the Origins save.