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[Aradace]

Monica83 wrote...

The voice things its not a great feature after all... If to put in it you have to cut away the nice features that origins had like character selection and the other things.. Since... I don't know why people jumps happy to have a voiced character when for put in this feature you can cut things like race selection i find it useless..

*points to signature* get over it plz >.>

[AlanC9]

Aradace wrote...
Because Gamefly is an online game rental site....Based off of user reviews and not "critic" heavy reviews.

Gamespot has user reviews too. DAO did much better there than it did on Gamefly. Different user base?

Personally, I prefer critic reviews to user reviews. I have slightly less contempt for professionals than I do for average gamers. Same thing for moves and music.

Modifié par AlanC9, 08 septembre 2010 - 06:28 .

[Ortaya Alevli]

Aradace wrote...

Gamefly gave DA:O, based on 14,900+ member ratings, a 7.7 out of 10....which makes it a GOOD game....Not GREAT.  With that in mind, we cant really use DA:O as a guidepost for anything in terms of "greatness".  New comparison plz

What's a Gamefly?

DA:O has an immersive story and great storytelling to complement it. Features well-written characters and well-designed gameplay basics which proved themselves time and again in past BioWare games. Overall it has more than enough to be considered a great game. Two digits with a dot between them don't make a great game. Its quality does.

[Monica83]

Sorry Aradace but you ever played dragon age origins?

[Aradace]

AlanC9 wrote...

Aradace wrote...
Because Gamefly is an online game rental site....Based off of user reviews and not "critic" heavy reviews.

Gamespot has user reviews too. DAO did much better there than it did on Gamefly. Different user base?

Personally, I prefer critic reviews to user reviews. I have slightly less contempt for professionals than I do for average gamers. Same thing for moves and music.

And Im the exact opposite lol XD....I prefer actual user input rather than a "professional's" perspective.  Because as we've seen before, sometimes the so called "critics" dont know what they're talking about.  But, different strokes for different folks.  GameInformer ripped on DA:O pretty hard too a couple months ago (in a way) by putting Alistair in their "Top 10 most annoying characters of all time" list lol.

[Aradace]

Monica83 wrote...

Sorry Aradace but you ever played dragon age origins?

Yes I have, PC version and 360 version.  I sold my copy after going through 4-5 times because of no NG+ feature >.>

Only reason I had it for PC is because I thought doing some modding would breathe some new life into the game but sadly it didnt....Even the forced Deathblow mod only made me go through one more time lol

Modifié par Aradace, 08 septembre 2010 - 06:33 .

[marquiseondore]

Monica83 wrote...

The voice things its not a great feature after all... If to put in it you have to cut away the nice features that origins had like character selection and the other things.. Since... I don't know why people jumps happy to have a voiced character when for put in this feature you can cut things like race selection i find it useless..

Your PC did have a voice, granted he/she didn't say anything that wasn't in the soundset.  I had seen several posts asking for a voiced PC in DA2 or musing how great it would have been if your PC spoke more in DAO. Though I think people were thinking of having a selection to choose from, which would be cost prohibited not to mention time consuming.  I've even seen a few posts in the toolset forum asking how to create a soundset for DAO that would work for every response in the game.   

I trust and hope that the CC will remain for the most part intact.

[Monica83]

Then maybe you must looking for something different maybe you are much more an action game oriented played the comment you maded before is silly and arrogant we are here to share what we thinks after all this is a forum.. If you don't like RPG you can find many games to enjoy..

Maybe Diablo..

Dragon age is born like an rpg and must stay an rpg.. Im tired of people that crying more action more action more action...

And i repeat if the selection of race is cutted off only to have a voiced character... Well i dont like the way bioware is gong to take.. If you not agreed whit what i saybg ok.. But lets try to be civil and respect what people thinks

Thanks

[Aradace]

Monica83 wrote...

Then maybe you must looking for something different maybe you are much more an action game oriented played the comment you maded before is silly and arrogant we are here to share what we thinks after all this is a forum.. If you don't like RPG you can find many games to enjoy..
Maybe Diablo..
Dragon age is born like an rpg and must stay an rpg.. Im tired of people that crying more action more action more action...
And i repeat if the selection of race is cutted off only to have a voiced character... Well i dont like the way bioware is gong to take.. If you not agreed whit what i saybg ok.. But lets try to be civil and respect what people thinks
Thanks

I love RPGs....In fact, I grew up on RPGs.  I agree that DA was a GOOD rpg....But not a GREAT one is what I was saying....And about my sig....Moderator Javier is the one I quoted in my signature (very wise man lol) so careful who you call arrogant yea?

[Monica83]

I call arrogant your reply with the quote.. Not the dev himself...

Anyways as i sayd i can play DA2 also if only human based story.. But im worried that became too much similiar to mass effect 2 they are two different type of game... From what i read i see many stepback from origins.. And not much new features... Im worryed that dragon age become an adventure/action game with rpg reference.. like mass effect 2

[Amfortas]

Well, I can think of worse things than Dragon Age becoming an adventure game! Seriously, I'd like Dragon Age to borrow things from adventure games, more complex puzzles for example. Unfortunately that's not Bioware's approach, they believe more in fusing RPG's with action games.

Ortaya Alevli wrote...

Even though I wouldn't consider length a factor in quality, certainly its
value cannot be neglected. I was upset that Jade Empire was such a
short game. Well, relatively. My greatest disappointment in that regard
was Full Throttle.

this is important. In my opinion,  Jade Empire has the best story Bioware has ever created. However when you finished it, the game left you unsatisfied because it was too short. It was a shame. I see that devs are always commenting about the awesome plot DA2 has, I don't know if it's going to be as good as Jade Empire's or not, but I hope that they don't make the same mistake again.

*edit: this forum does stange things to the format of posts

Modifié par Amfortas, 08 septembre 2010 - 06:59 .

[Aradace]

Monica83 wrote...

I call arrogant your reply with the quote.. Not the dev himself...
Anyways as i sayd i can play DA2 also if only human based story.. But im worried that became too much similiar to mass effect 2 they are two different type of game... From what i read i see many stepback from origins.. And not much new features... Im worryed that dragon age become an adventure/action game with rpg reference.. like mass effect 2

I like the fact that DA2 seems to be made "Mass Effectified" so to speak....People can complain all they want I suppose but in the end it comes down to this:  If BioWare wanted to keep DA going along the path it was on in DA:O, they would have made DA2, more like DA:O.  Complaining at this point is precisely that, complaining.  And complaining about a game that you havent even sodding played yet...That's what really gets me.  People complaining about a game that isnt even out yet lol.

[Sylvius the Mad]

javierabegazo wrote...

Why do people insist that Length has anything to do with the quality of a game...?

Because length has a lot to do with the plausibility of an epic plotline.

[Monica83]

If bioware wants make DA more Dragon Effect i simply dont give them my money simple

[Aradace]

Monica83 wrote...

If bioware wants make DA more Dragon Effect i simply dont give them my money simple

Good move...Just dont be as dilusional as some others that are doing the same and start thinking that by your not buying the game it's going to hurt BioWare's profits in any significant way.  Why? Because there arent enough people (going out on a limb here and it's definately a safe bet.) doing it to actually even matter really.

Modifié par Aradace, 08 septembre 2010 - 07:09 .

[sanadawarrior]

Monica83 wrote...

If bioware wants make DA more Dragon Effect i simply dont give them my money simple

And if they don't then I won't give them mine.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Aradace wrote...

Good move...Just dont be as dilusional as some others that are doing the same and start thinking that by your not buying the game it's going to hurt BioWare's profits in any significant way.  Why? Because there arent enough people (going out on a limb here and it's definately a safe bet.) doing it to actually even matter really.

This is true.  It's like voting.

The marginal impact of a single vote is effectively zero, so there's no reason for you (an individual) ever to vote unless you derive some other benefit from it.

[Monica83]

well ill still hope for a nice game

for this i opened this thread... i figure mmmh devs talk also of the roleplay part no?

[Aradace]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

Aradace wrote...

Good move...Just dont be as dilusional as some others that are doing the same and start thinking that by your not buying the game it's going to hurt BioWare's profits in any significant way.  Why? Because there arent enough people (going out on a limb here and it's definately a safe bet.) doing it to actually even matter really.

This is true.  It's like voting.

The marginal impact of a single vote is effectively zero, so there's no reason for you (an individual) ever to vote unless you derive some other benefit from it.

Exactly...If the company has already decided where it's going with something then it's going to go that way regardless...Especially when their arent enough people actually complaining about it.

[the_one_54321]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...
The marginal impact of a single vote is effectively zero, so there's no reason for you (an individual) ever to vote unless you derive some other benefit from it.

Sometimes the "logical" nominalizations you make are just plain wrong...

[Aradace]

the_one_54321 wrote...

Sylvius the Mad wrote...
The marginal impact of a single vote is effectively zero, so there's no reason for you (an individual) ever to vote unless you derive some other benefit from it.

Sometimes the "logical" nominalizations you make are just plain wrong...

I like to call it "stark reality" lol.  People dilude (spelling?) themselves into thinking that they are actually making an impact by complaining about something when in reality, it's making a hell of a less impact than they think it is.

[Wrathra]

Aradace wrote...

I like the fact that DA2 seems to be made "Mass Effectified" so to speak....People can complain all they want I suppose but in the end it comes down to this:  If BioWare wanted to keep DA going along the path it was on in DA:O, they would have made DA2, more like DA:O.  Complaining at this point is precisely that, complaining.  And complaining about a game that you havent even sodding played yet...That's what really gets me.  People complaining about a game that isnt even out yet lol.

Bioware is no longer an independent developer. Bioware answers to Electronic Arts, who answer to their stockholders and board of directors, who care about their money, and honestly don't give crap what any of us want.  It just happens to benefit one side of the argument (more action!), instead of  the other (more RPG!).

If a bunch of old guys in suits in a board room say "Action games sell! Make it happen, use that Dragon thing." that's exactly what's going to happen. The end.  That is business.

Personally, I do not like the direction DA2 is going, but I will speak with my wallet.  I'm not saying its good or bad or whatever, but from what I've seen, its not the game for me.

[Aradace]

Wrathra wrote...

Aradace wrote...

I like the fact that DA2 seems to be made "Mass Effectified" so to speak....People can complain all they want I suppose but in the end it comes down to this:  If BioWare wanted to keep DA going along the path it was on in DA:O, they would have made DA2, more like DA:O.  Complaining at this point is precisely that, complaining.  And complaining about a game that you havent even sodding played yet...That's what really gets me.  People complaining about a game that isnt even out yet lol.

Bioware is no longer an independent developer. Bioware answers to Electronic Arts, who answer to their stockholders and board of directors, who care about their money, and honestly don't give crap what any of us want.  It just happens to benefit one side of the argument (more action!), instead of  the other (more RPG!).

If a bunch of old guys in suits in a board room say "Action games sell! Make it happen, use that Dragon thing." that's exactly what's going to happen. The end.  That is business.

Personally, I do not like the direction DA2 is going, but I will speak with my wallet.  I'm not saying its good or bad or whatever, but from what I've seen, its not the game for me.

And that is essentially what I have always said....Again as I said before, speak with your wallet if you wish but just dont be delusional in thinking it's making ANY kind of impact other than self gratification.

[the_one_54321]

Aradace wrote...

the_one_54321 wrote...

Sylvius the Mad wrote...
The marginal impact of a single vote is effectively zero, so there's no reason for you (an individual) ever to vote unless you derive some other benefit from it.

Sometimes the "logical" nominalizations you make are just plain wrong...

I like to call it "stark reality" lol.  People dilude (spelling?) themselves into thinking that they are actually making an impact by complaining about something when in reality, it's making a hell of a less impact than they think it is.

(this applies only to the voting process in the USA as I am not familar with the details of voting practices elsewhere)
1. Definitively, a vote for the party that wins is one part of the whole that led to that victory. It can be nominalized as a small fraction of that whole, but, as it is effectively equal to all other small fractions that similarly occured within the same state, to remove it would be equivilant to removing all such votes and this would lead to the definitive loss of that party. As a fraction of the whole it is necessary by it's exact proportionality to the whole for victory of that party.
2. If the vote is for the losing party, the electoral college system nominalizes the effectiveness of that vote to zero for the determination of the election results. However, even in this case the vote carries weight in future, and sometimes even current, political policies and manuvering. It remains a portion of the statistics, by it's exact proportionality to the total number of votes, that is used to help analyzie results and create future planning.

A vote always carries some weight.

[Wyndham711]

I'm sure pretty much no one votes if they don't feel it benefits them in some way. Say carrying the torch for idea that your vote might just be the one that tips the scales, social acception, the satisfaction gained by keeping up to one's principles/civic duties, etc.