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Costin_Razvan

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Here is a little pearl I dug up in the Shadow Broker's Lair after defeating him. Take note that said message is BEFORE Shepard even goes to Horizon ( and things might very well worsen after that ).

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Now I dunno about you naive fools, but is this really the organization you want to work for in ME3? Hackett and Anderson are pulling the strings so they don't arrest you, and your Spectre status is only for show, not that it really matter.

I am sure you think you could convince them you never really worked for Cerberus, but even so you would spent MONTHS if Prison if you really wanted to rejoin them. And that's assuming the Civilian Politicians who run the Alliance want to believe you....which is an incredibly foolish thought.

Now this thread isn't meant so that people should side with Cerberus, but rather that the though of rejoining the Alliance is INCREDIBLY naive and idiotic. 

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PsyrenY

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Are the childish insults necessary?

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Dude your working for a know terrorist threat, the Alliance is going to take the required precautions, besides the request was denied. Look at what happened to Grayson, you have to be carefull when it comes to Cerberus

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Costin_Razvan

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The request was denied by Hackett, do you really believe for a second that Hackett has the power to stop you getting arrested if you WANT to rejoin the Alliance?

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The council would have to revoke Shepard's Spectre status before any action could be taken against him.

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I totally understand being anti-Cerberus, but I can't grasp what would motivate someone to be an Alliance fan. They're more or less consistently portrayed as incompetent.

To me the options are pro-Cerberus or "third way" - the latter being what I'm hoping we can go with.  Shepard leading by example, not 'joining' anybody.  The Alliance is more or less dead to me, except when I can use them.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 08 septembre 2010 - 08:13 .


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sanadawarrior

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If a modern special ops soldier who was thought to be dead sudenly surfaced as a Taliban operative you think our military would look the other way?

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Double post

Modifié par sanadawarrior, 08 septembre 2010 - 08:13 .


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Costin_Razvan

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sanadawarrior wrote...

If a modern special ops soldier who was thought to be dead sudenly surfaced as a Taliban operative you think our military would look the other way?


And do you honestly think that the chance for that soldier to be locked away for life or charged with treason wouldn't be high? Especially if said soldier was speaking about stuff the Government doesn't want to believe is true.

 The council would have to revoke Shepard's Spectre status before any action could be taken against him.


Well, here's a shocker for you: The Council wants Shepard to shut up.

What better way then to have him arrested by the Alliance and then for them to influence them to keep him locked up?

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 08 septembre 2010 - 08:15 .


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Posting in a troll thread.




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also



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Costin_Razvan

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And that proves anything beyond the fact that Hackett is pulling the strings to keep Shepard from being arrested? A fact which I pointed out in my first post.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 08 septembre 2010 - 08:16 .


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sanadawarrior

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Costin_Razvan wrote...

sanadawarrior wrote...

If a modern special ops soldier who was thought to be dead sudenly surfaced as a Taliban operative you think our military would look the other way?


And do you honestly think that the chance for that soldier to be locked away for life or charged with treason wouldn't be high? Especially if said soldier was speaking about stuff the Government doesn't want to believe is true.



I misinterpreted your post, I thought this was something to point to how the alliance was evil or some nonsense.

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Costin_Razvan

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No...they are just idiots, incompetent idiots who want you locked up, just like the Council is.



I get the Cerberus hate, I really do. What I don't get is the fools who insist that they would have given the Collector Base to the Alliance.

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Oh boy another " Im Pro this so everyone who isint is a retard thread".



Goody.

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Costin_Razvan wrote...

And that proves anything beyond the fact that Hackett is pulling the strings to keep Shepard from being arrested? A fact which I pointed out in my first post.


So what's your point? The system works. Crackpot says "Arrest Shep!" Hackett says "No U."

Why, if you have the Ruthless background I'm sure there would be people in the Alliance wanting to lock you up for that too.

Note: I am also against giving the Collector Base to the Alliance, but for a different reason - Cerberus clearly has the Alliance thoroughly infiltrated.

Modifié par Optimystic_X, 08 septembre 2010 - 08:20 .


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Also I never would give the Cerberus base to anyone, dont think anyone in Mass Effect has two brain cells to rub toghther and plan to pull a Malcolm Reynolds.




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Costin_Razvan wrote...

No...they are just idiots, incompetent idiots who want you locked up, just like the Council is.

I get the Cerberus hate, I really do. What I don't get is the fools who insist that they would have given the Collector Base to the Alliance.


Actualy the fact that they want you locked up seems like evidence of them being competent, after all they aren't clairvoiant and have no idea why you have sudenly surfaced as an agent of one of their enemies.

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I think the only reason you created this thread was for someone to point out how lucky we are to live in an age where someone who possesses such an advanced mind as yours is willing to interact with peons such as us.


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Optimystic_X wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...

And that proves anything beyond the fact that Hackett is pulling the strings to keep Shepard from being arrested? A fact which I pointed out in my first post.


So what's your point? The system works. Crackpot says "Arrest Shep!" Hackett says "No U."

Why, if you have the Ruthless background I'm sure there would be people in the Alliance wanting to lock you up for that too.


Said Crackpot representing the Alliance Leaders. The only reasons you aren't locked is because you stay in the Terminus for the vast majority of the game, and that Anderson and Hackett prevent it.

And the point of this thread is that it is incredibly stupid to assume that you could just rejoin the Alliance without getting grinded by Politicians.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 08 septembre 2010 - 08:23 .


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sanadawarrior

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Responded to the same quote twice.

Modifié par sanadawarrior, 08 septembre 2010 - 08:23 .


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the fact that Alliance is not a company of paladins was obvious from the start



that soesn't make them incompetent or stupid or any such nonsence. OP is, like, pro-Cerberus, i take it?

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sanadawarrior wrote...

If a modern special ops soldier who was thought to be dead sudenly surfaced as a Taliban operative you think our military would look the other way?


Good point. But Shepard can be a Specter and thus autorized to do as he pleases as long as this status is not revoked, and the vibe I got was kidnapping and "interrogation" rather than arrest.
If Hackett is a Reaper believer he probably wouldn´t allow it even taking Paragon-Renegade Specter status into account.

And first thing I did was asking for Council help. Denied.

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Costin_Razvan

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Incompetent for not doing squat about the missing colonies, stupid for refusing to believe the Reapers are coming.

 But Shepard can be a Specter and thus autorized to do as he pleases as long as this status is not revoked, and the vibe I got was kidnapping and "interrogation" rather than arrest.


I think you would be right....but what would happen is Shepard just waltzed in Arcturus Station to be returned to active duty...

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 08 septembre 2010 - 08:27 .


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I would happily discuss this if the OP was a little more civilized in his statement, but no.