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[Yeti13]

Jamin101 wrote...

You guys are talking like shep's allies are nothing. Anderson is a councillor, one of only 4 in the entire milky way. Hackett is an Admiral, but now he is the admiral known as saving the galaxy. He has arguably the two best allies in the alliance.

I dont want to spoil anything but u need to read the last ME book (it's a fantastic read) 

[Chuvvy]

I hope we get the choice to work alone in ME3.

[JG The Gamer]

As I see it. Anderson is and always will be behind you no matter what, even if he doesn't like the fact you're with Cerberus. And he believes you about the Reapers, despite his feelings about beating his head against the wall.



Hackett, you've helped him out numerous times (if you did the sidequests, including giving instructions at the Battle of the Citadel on whether to save the Council or go after Sovereign). So I would stake that Hackett believes that whatever you're doing, it's for the right reasons.

[xlavaina]

Slidell505 wrote...

I hope we get the choice to work alone in ME3.

Not going to happen. Bioware is known for their amazing characters. They're not going to sacrifice their best strength for the last game. 

[Chuvvy]

xlavaina wrote...

Slidell505 wrote...

I hope we get the choice to work alone in ME3.

Not going to happen. Bioware is known for their amazing characters. They're not going to sacrifice their best strength for the last game. 

I mean not with cerberus or the alliance. Not completely alone.

Modifié par Slidell505, 08 septembre 2010 - 09:12 .

[xlavaina]

Slidell505 wrote...

xlavaina wrote...

Slidell505 wrote...

I hope we get the choice to work alone in ME3.

Not going to happen. Bioware is known for their amazing characters. They're not going to sacrifice their best strength for the last game. 

I mean not with cerberus or the alliance.

Oh well in that case me too 

[Bruddajakka]

Working on your own doesn't mean you won't interact with other characters it just by the time ME3 comes around Shepard won't need Cerberus, or the Alliance.

[Lord Jaric]

That was well within reason, Shepard was believed to of been dead for 2 years, then he/she suddenly show up on Omega, a station filled with the scum of the galaxy, and he/she is working with a terrorist organization, why shouldn't they question that.

[Emperor Mars]

**** Cerberus, **** the council, **** the alliance and all their petty grudges.

Shepard has more imporant things to worry about, like the race of civilization eating star destroyer sized cuttlefish.

Modifié par Emperor Mars, 08 septembre 2010 - 09:18 .

[Tasker]

Slidell505 wrote...

xlavaina wrote...

Slidell505 wrote...

I hope we get the choice to work alone in ME3.

Not going to happen. Bioware is known for their amazing characters. They're not going to sacrifice their best strength for the last game. 

I mean not with cerberus or the alliance. Not completely alone.

After finishing the Shadow broker DLC, I think that that's the way they're going for ME3.   All the missions, info and stuff are going to come from the Shadow broker.

[Yeti13]

I believe if you tell the IM to shove his plans up his rear end then the council and Alliance will welcome you back. If went with giving the IM the base then you will have him and Aria to help you out

[Costin_Razvan]

I believe if you tell the IM to shove his plans up his rear end then the council and Alliance will welcome you back. If went with giving the IM the base then you will have him and Aria to help you out

That was the original point of my post. To argue that the Alliance would NOT welcome you back with open arms. Oh I am sure that after a few months in prison you MIGHT convince you never sided with Cerberus, and that's assuming the Politicians will believe you.

[Yeti13]

Well seeing as the reaper fleet is slowly approaching the milky way, the politicians might start to get reports and finally believe you, + Hackett and Anderson and Kahlee would back u up.

[Nozybidaj]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

I totally understand being anti-Cerberus, but I can't grasp what would motivate someone to be an Alliance fan. They're more or less consistently portrayed as incompetent.

To me the options are pro-Cerberus or "third way" - the latter being what I'm hoping we can go with.  Shepard leading by example, not 'joining' anybody.  The Alliance is more or less dead to me, except when I can use them.

Don't worry, if we are meant to join up with either the Alliance or the Council in ME3 they'll be re-retconn'ed back into competent organizations all over again.  I mean does anyone really believe that the leaders of the entire galaxy could possibly be as completely incompetent and willfuly stupid as they are portrayed in ME2?  They were only made that way to make the even more unbelievable story of willfully working with Cerberus more palatable.

[cjone2]

predicted that me3 might begin in a prison of some kind just have a feeling about it would make sense from a having to regroup your crew point this may be a further indication

[Raith Mano]

Nozybidaj wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

I totally understand being anti-Cerberus, but I can't grasp what would motivate someone to be an Alliance fan. They're more or less consistently portrayed as incompetent.

To me the options are pro-Cerberus or "third way" - the latter being what I'm hoping we can go with.  Shepard leading by example, not 'joining' anybody.  The Alliance is more or less dead to me, except when I can use them.

Don't worry, if we are meant to join up with either the Alliance or the Council in ME3 they'll be re-retconn'ed back into competent organizations all over again.  I mean does anyone really believe that the leaders of the entire galaxy could possibly be as completely incompetent and willfuly stupid as they are portrayed in ME2?  They were only made that way to make the even more unbelievable story of willfully working with Cerberus more palatable.

It wasn't about willfully working with Cerberus though.  It was about stopping attacks on human colonies in the traverse where the Council has no jurisdiction and if they send in fleets to observe, help, whatever, it could be viewed as an act of aggression.  The fact that these things would happen to only human colonies would lead them to believe, beibng completely logical I might add, that it was another race doing this to the humans, as the humans have made quite a few bit of enemies.

Yeah, the Council discounted the reapers and think Shepards a little crazy, and futhermore take issue with him working for Cerberus, but things needed to get done.  Black ops is black ops and things needed to get done.

[BDelacroix]

We know that, but the rumor mill seems to have churned out a completely different story. Its too bad my best friends believed I'd behave in a way completely different from what they saw me doing first hand rather than giving me the benefit of the doubt.



Ok well one friend did that.

[Bruddajakka]

Nozybidaj wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

I totally understand being anti-Cerberus, but I can't grasp what would motivate someone to be an Alliance fan. They're more or less consistently portrayed as incompetent.

To me the options are pro-Cerberus or "third way" - the latter being what I'm hoping we can go with.  Shepard leading by example, not 'joining' anybody.  The Alliance is more or less dead to me, except when I can use them.

Don't worry, if we are meant to join up with either the Alliance or the Council in ME3 they'll be re-retconn'ed back into competent organizations all over again.  I mean does anyone really believe that the leaders of the entire galaxy could possibly be as completely incompetent and willfuly stupid as they are portrayed in ME2?  They were only made that way to make the even more unbelievable story of willfully working with Cerberus more palatable.

Yes. Their politicians who want to maintain the status quo.

[Tazzmission]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Here is a little pearl I dug up in the Shadow Broker's Lair after defeating him. Take note that said message is BEFORE Shepard even goes to Horizon ( and things might very well worsen after that ).




Now I dunno about you naive fools, but is this really the organization you want to work for in ME3? Hackett and Anderson are pulling the strings so they don't arrest you, and your Spectre status is only for show, not that it really matter.

I am sure you think you could convince them you never really worked for Cerberus, but even so you would spent MONTHS if Prison if you really wanted to rejoin them. And that's assuming the Civilian Politicians who run the Alliance want to believe you....which is an incredibly foolish thought.

Now this thread isn't meant so that people should side with Cerberus, but rather that the though of rejoining the Alliance is INCREDIBLY naive and idiotic. 

wow can you really be a ****** much? you may think the rest of the posters on here are naieve but we are all better than you

[Bruddajakka]

wow can you really be a ****** much? you may think the rest of the posters on here are naieve but we are all better than you

I love how that picture fails to include Hackett's responce.

[Mad Man Mac]

Does anyone think it would be kinda cool if the Alliance did throw Shepard in jail, The events following would probably be pretty epic... Shepard gets thrown in prison for aiding Cerberus, then many of his allies come forward to help him Politically or just break him out of Prison, While the threat of the Reapers grows.

[Bruddajakka]

Not really. Especially not if he's had his Spectre status reinstated.

[Tazzmission]

Bruddajakka wrote...

wow can you really be a ****** much? you may think the rest of the posters on here are naieve but we are all better than you

I love how that picture fails to include Hackett's responce.

i came to a thought that the cerberus guy anderson met with could be a inside man for the citadel to keep tabs on shepard on the normandy.

[Dinkamus_Littlelog]

Pretty much everyone in the entire galaxy bar Shepard and his crew (not counting the cerberus asspull retcon in ME2, and even then thats debatable) is a complete and total moron.

I dont know why they allowed this to be the case. Maybe having the majority of the galaxy be stupid morons with stupid reasons makes it easier to pass off the fact that the player mows down the majority of the people they meet in ME2.

Yeah, the Alliance is all "anti-Shepard" in ME2, but thats mainly because its Bioware transparent and ham fisted efforts to make the game "teh dahrk n Ejjy".

Hopefully theyve been saving up most of the intelligence for the majority of the inhabitants in the galaxy for ME3, because it sure needs it.

Oh, and I hope we get to kill cerberus and the illusive man in ME3. Not because they are well written psuedo villains or anything. Rather because in ME2 they are just plain badly written and annoying. The sooner ME stops cramming cerberus down my throat, the happier Ill be (at least in one small issue among many others that is).

Modifié par Dinkamus_Littlelog, 10 septembre 2010 - 04:01 .

[didymos1120]

Bruddajakka wrote...
I love how that picture fails to include Hackett's responce.

It's quote-mining, a tool much loved by creationists across the ages.   BTW, if Liara's not your LI and you thank her for returning your dog tags, she'll tell you how she got them:  Hackett personally gave them to her and asked her to give them to you, and to let you know he hopes you're alright.