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[Bruddajakka]

Yeah I like Hackett. Even when he's doing something underhanded he's open about it as seen in the case of one Warlord Darius.

Modifié par Bruddajakka, 10 septembre 2010 - 04:29 .

[izmirtheastarach]

Hackett: No.

[PsyrenY]

Fail thread is.

[Dean_the_Young]

didymos1120 wrote...

Bruddajakka wrote...
I love how that picture fails to include Hackett's responce.

It's quote-mining, a tool much loved by creationists across the ages.   BTW, if Liara's not your LI and you thank her for returning your dog tags, she'll tell you how she got them:  Hackett personally gave them to her and asked her to give them to you, and to let you know he hopes you're alright.

While his tone is tasteless, his point is valid: Hacket and Anderson are your precious few friends in the Alliance, which was turning on you even before your death by covering up the truth of Sovereign, the Reapers, and everything else. This just proves that Kaiden or Ashley aren't alone in their suspicions, and that a good part of the Alliance body is going to suspect you regardless of anything you do.

Hacket and Anderson can't protect you from everything forever, especially as Anderson seems to be losing political power with more recent events in Ascension.

[ArcanistLibram]

Mad Man Mac wrote...

Does anyone think it would be kinda cool if the Alliance did throw Shepard in jail, The events following would probably be pretty epic... Shepard gets thrown in prison for aiding Cerberus, then many of his allies come forward to help him Politically or just break him out of Prison, While the threat of the Reapers grows.

Not really. Shepard's personal kill count is higher than some wars and includes between one and four counts of genocide. The only way the Alliance could arrest him is through massive railroading and that would ****** me off.

[izmirtheastarach]

ArcanistLibram wrote...

Not really. Shepard's personal kill count is higher than some wars and includes between one and four counts of genocide. The only way the Alliance could arrest him is through massive railroading and that would ****** me off.

I don't remember commiting any acts of genocide. Maybe that was just me.

[nelly21]

I'm okay with it. I like Cerberus.

[Bruddajakka]

Well he did die once. But that was more Joker's fault then his own.

[ArcanistLibram]

izmirtheastarach wrote...

I don't remember commiting any acts of genocide. Maybe that was just me.

The Collectors, the thorian if there was only one left, the rachni and the geth heretic faction. Out of those four, Shepard always genocides the Collectors.

[Dean_the_Young]

izmirtheastarach wrote...

ArcanistLibram wrote...

Not really. Shepard's personal kill count is higher than some wars and includes between one and four counts of genocide. The only way the Alliance could arrest him is through massive railroading and that would ****** me off.

I don't remember commiting any acts of genocide. Maybe that was just me.

Thorian, Collectors, and debatable about Sovereign (depending on the definition of a Reaper species) are guaranteed.

Rachni are optional, of course.


That said, Shepard's kill count is from a game, and gameplay often inflates lore in terms of numbers, for the same reason half the **** army gets killed in every WW2 game by a single guy.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

The Collectors are all mindless husks. They are basically already dead.Sovereign doesn't count. It is just one reaper.

[Annihilator27]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Here is a little pearl I dug up in the Shadow Broker's Lair after defeating him. Take note that said message is BEFORE Shepard even goes to Horizon ( and things might very well worsen after that ).

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Now I dunno about you naive fools, but is this really the organization you want to work for in ME3? Hackett and Anderson are pulling the strings so they don't arrest you, and your Spectre status is only for show, not that it really matter.

I am sure you think you could convince them you never really worked for Cerberus, but even so you would spent MONTHS if Prison if you really wanted to rejoin them. And that's assuming the Civilian Politicians who run the Alliance want to believe you....which is an incredibly foolish thought.

Now this thread isn't meant so that people should side with Cerberus, but rather that the though of rejoining the Alliance is INCREDIBLY naive and idiotic. 

Does he know Hackett shot this **** down?

[Dean_the_Young]

Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

The Collectors are all mindless husks. They are basically already dead.Sovereign doesn't count. It is just one reaper.

Sovereign is a gestalt hive-mind of an entire  species in and of itself. The Reapers aren't a species of themselves, but a category of combined individual species, each unique and independent from the rest of the Reapers.

Mindless as the Collectors might have been (debatable, given that the Collector General is clearly capable of its own thought/movement when released), so were the Rachni presumed in the Rachni Wars, and the galaxy considers that genocide as well.

But hey, they're the unredeemable bad guys, so no one cares.

[CroGamer002]

I didn't liked Alliance from the second I heard about it in ME1.

[KainrycKarr]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Optimystic_X wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...

And that proves anything beyond the fact that Hackett is pulling the strings to keep Shepard from being arrested? A fact which I pointed out in my first post.

So what's your point? The system works. Crackpot says "Arrest Shep!" Hackett says "No U."

Why, if you have the Ruthless background I'm sure there would be people in the Alliance wanting to lock you up for that too.

Said Crackpot representing the Alliance Leaders. The only reasons you aren't locked is because you stay in the Terminus for the vast majority of the game, and that Anderson and Hackett prevent it.

And the point of this thread is that it is incredibly stupid to assume that you could just rejoin the Alliance without getting grinded by Politicians.

....It was a Major. 

[Dean_the_Young]

Majors are pretty high up and influential in their own right. You don't get that high in rank if you're crazy and unreasonable by default.

[didymos1120]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Majors are pretty high up and influential in their own right. You don't get that high in rank if you're crazy and unreasonable by default.

Oh yeah?  Well then explain Major Bludd!

[KainrycKarr]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Majors are pretty high up and influential in their own right. You don't get that high in rank if you're crazy and unreasonable by default.

In the scale of intergalactic politics, Majors aren't going to cause any kind of real problems for someone like Shepard, not as long as Hackett keeps with the unconditional backing.

Major would be high enough to make people think, but not high enough to force those thoughts unless they were already there.

Modifié par KainrycKarr, 10 septembre 2010 - 06:38 .

[upsettingshorts]

I was going to go on about Majors, but KainrycKarr put it pretty well. They're up high enough in the food chain to be sending emails directly to admirals, but low enough that the Admiral can tell them off with two words.

[GnusmasTHX]

Since when has "several Alliance officials" been the majority of the Alliance? It's painfully obvious that NONE of those officials, and even better ALL OF THEM COMBINED do not have the power, influence or authority to override ADMIRAL Hackett's orders. For all we know these "officials" are the Major, Jim from Accounting and Mr. Calrson's Secretary, Susan.

The only reason I'm not locked up is because I'm in the Terminus? Yeah... Because the Alliance has so little influence on the Citadel especially with a human Councillor, or even a human Council. Please. It's obvious that the dissidents in question do NOT represent the majority, at least not in terms of authority.

More importantly, that message says the following:
"Commander Shepard died and came back working with Cerberus. We want to find him and ask him what's up. It'll take a while." Completely understandable. It DOESN'T say, "Arrest that man and imprison him forever!"

Modifié par GnusmasTHX, 10 septembre 2010 - 06:56 .

[Jedi Master of Orion]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

The Collectors are all mindless husks. They are basically already dead.Sovereign doesn't count. It is just one reaper.

Sovereign is a gestalt hive-mind of an entire  species in and of itself. The Reapers aren't a species of themselves, but a category of combined individual species, each unique and independent from the rest of the Reapers.

What evidence is there that the programs of a reaper have anything to do with the species that created it? The reapers certainly are a species of themselves. Every human is unique and independant from other humans, that doesn't mean we aren't a species. Harbinger said "Will bring your species into harmony with our own." But even if you discounted that as deleted scenes or something then still: if the human reaper was created it's not a human anymore, it's a reaper. It would still be more closly related to Sovereign than Shepard.

[ExtremeOne]

Optimystic_X wrote...

Are the childish insults necessary?

  


Oh whats wrong because the truth of what the alliance was doing as it concerns with Shepard is finally able to be told. the alliance only give a dam about Shepard because he was brought back by Cerberus . They do not care about him. The alliance needs to die in ME 3 and My Shepard and will handle it personally 

[Killjoy Cutter]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Oh boy another " Im Pro this so everyone who isint is a retard thread".

Goody.

You noticed that too?


There are a LOT of those here.  If you're against Cerberus, you're an Alliance fanboy, assumed by default, no matter what you say to the contrary or how often you might say it, in the thinking of the Cerberus fans, as just the one example. 

[Killjoy Cutter]

ExtremeOne wrote...

Optimystic_X wrote...

Are the childish insults necessary?

   


Oh whats wrong because the truth of what the alliance was doing as it concerns with Shepard is finally able to be told. the alliance only give a dam about Shepard because he was brought back by Cerberus . They do not care about him. The alliance needs to die in ME 3 and My Shepard and will handle it personally 

[ExtremeOne]

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

I would happily discuss this if the OP was a little more civilized in his statement, but no.

  

don't go hating on the Op. because its not his fault you alliance fans can not understand that the alliance does not give a dam about Shepard.