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[evmiller]

Now that we all teamed up with Liara to take down the Shadow Broker, it's now time to team up with Kaiden/Ashly to take down Cerberus and TIM. Lets' face it, TIM's usefulness has come to an end. Shepard and the Normandy are back and my Shep's banging the Shadow Broker. I think I'll be getting much better intel then the crap TIM's been feeding me. And I found some very damaging documents on Cerberus that I've been holding on to that might accidentally get leaked threw the new shadow broker.

Stage 1: Drop off any pro-Cerberus personell off on Omega.

Stage 2: Work with Mordin and Tali to clean all tracking and survailance equipment off of Normandy.

Stage 3: Mordin and Legion will then wipe EDI's AI core and re-write her programming.

Stage 4: Uniforms and anything with a Cerberus emblem goes to Zaeed's in the Starboard Cargo to be sent out with the trash.

Stage 5: Repaint my feak'in ship!

Final Stage: Liara gives info on TIM's location and we team up with Kaiden/Ashly to take him down.

Tim can even have a suprise or two for us when we find him, he can explain that he has a certain friend of ours that we left on Virmire a couple years ago and he/she is ALIVE, and we'll never find him/her if we kill him. We of coarse will find a way to do BOTH and save the day once again.

We now repair our friendship with Kaiden and/or Ashly and those who had them as LI's can have their moment like my Shep did last night with Liara.  THE END!

Modifié par evmiller, 08 septembre 2010 - 08:39 .

[epoch_]

sounds [mostly] good.

[Crazy_Cat_Lady]

m14567 wrote...

I want stage 2 no matter what. The fact that the shadow broker had video feeds from the Normandy is ridiculous.

He just wanted to watch you and Miranda do it

[Chuvvy]

I just want to repaint the ship. HOT ROD FLAMES!

[Newnation]

I think your crew is loyal to you rather than Cerberus. Afterall, you were the one that saved their asses not Cerberus. So I don't think you'll need to drop any of them off.

[charliekrad]

The issue with this is that you can be a renegade and agree with ceberus

[Lord Jaric]

There are some problems with you set up

1. The crew is on you side no matter what.

3. EDI is on your side, why would you need to reprogram her.

Who ever was left on vermire is dead and gone, you people really need to stop trying to pretend they are alive.

and finally, considering you can still work for Cerberus at the end of the game, bioware isn't going to make a dlc solely for those who told TIM to shove it.

[evmiller]

Lord Jaric wrote...

There are some problems with you set up

1. The crew is on you side no matter what.

3. EDI is on your side, why would you need to reprogram her.

Who ever was left on vermire is dead and gone, you people really need to stop trying to pretend they are alive.

and finally, considering you can still work for Cerberus at the end of the game, bioware isn't going to make a dlc solely for those who told TIM to shove it.

I'm sure the crew is all grateful that you saved them, but they might not be willing to quit Cerberus. Also, as a renegade, you might have saved the collector base for TIM, but when he turns around and burns you later you'll have to take him down for that.

EDI admitted that she has fail-safe programming installed that she can't access untill activated by TIM. She doesn't now what it is, but will carry out the instructions no matter what. She has to have that programming removed.

Shepard was dead too, but Cerberus brought him back. There is also a posibility that Kaiden/Ashly were able to get out of the blast radius in time. That is just the sort of gut-punch bioware is know for hitting you with. Something that you never saw comming.

Modifié par evmiller, 08 septembre 2010 - 09:47 .

[Dionkey]

evmiller wrote...

Lord Jaric wrote...

There are some problems with you set up

1. The crew is on you side no matter what.

3. EDI is on your side, why would you need to reprogram her.

Who ever was left on vermire is dead and gone, you people really need to stop trying to pretend they are alive.

and finally, considering you can still work for Cerberus at the end of the game, bioware isn't going to make a dlc solely for those who told TIM to shove it.

I'm sure the crew is all grateful that you saved them, but they might not be willing to quite Cerberus. Also, as a renegade, you might have saved the collector base for TIM, but when he turns around and burns you later you'll have to take him down for that.

EDI admitted that she has fail-safe programming installed that she can't access untill activated by TIM. She doesn't now what it is, but will carry out the instructions no matter what.

Shepard was dead too, but Cerberus brought him back. There is also a posibility that Kaiden/Ashly were able to get out of the blast radius in time. That is just the sort of gut-punch bioware is know for hitting you with. Something that you never saw comming.

  They all did quit cereberus.

Jack Hates them
Garrus is with you
Tali is with you
Grunt respects you greatly
Jacob is on your side
Miranda shut Tim off in the collector base
Samara is tied to a oath to you not Cereberus
Thane has no interest in Cerberus
Legion is loyal to you
Zaeed is merc by hire and got payd, he would join the highest bidder but thats option dlc so that cant factor in
Kasumi is also optional dlc so no beuno
Mordin, you helped him choose between keeping or destroying the genophage cure. He is loyal to you
Joker has been with you since the start
Kelly wants to bang you
Chawkwas only came to cerberus because of you

EDI is not under TIMs control and if tim wanted to **** your ship on you he would...with a missle.

[upsettingshorts]

Um, how would players/saves in which Shepard kept the Collector base work?

Recall that Bioware has stated that the content of their DLCs is canon, so it has to work within all major story choices.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 08 septembre 2010 - 09:51 .

[Lord_Tirian]

charliekrad wrote...

The issue with this is that you can be a renegade and agree with ceberus

In that case, it's not taking down Cerberus, but taking Cerberus over! Almost the same.

But seriously, TIM is a huge part of ME2 and Cerberus (with a star voice actor to boot), I can't see how he and/or Cerberus are going to be disposed of in a DLC. It's a lot more likely that it will at least be the beginning of ME3.

[Jorina Leto]

To get rid of Cerberus will be part of ME3 not of a DLC.

[ArcanistLibram]

Jorina Leto wrote...

To get rid of Cerberus will be part of ME3 not of a DLC.

That's what I said about the Shadow Broker and I turned out wrong. Then again, the Shadow Broker isn't voiced by Martin Sheen. Just getting VAs would make a DLC to destroy Cerberus prohibitively expensive.

[Asheer_Khan]

evmiller wrote...

Lord Jaric wrote...

There are some problems with you set up

1. The crew is on you side no matter what.

3. EDI is on your side, why would you need to reprogram her.

Who ever was left on vermire is dead and gone, you people really need to stop trying to pretend they are alive.

and finally, considering you can still work for Cerberus at the end of the game, bioware isn't going to make a dlc solely for those who told TIM to shove it.

I'm sure the crew is all grateful that you saved them, but they might not be willing to quit Cerberus. Also, as a renegade, you might have saved the collector base for TIM, but when he turns around and burns you later you'll have to take him down for that.

EDI admitted that she has fail-safe programming installed that she can't access untill activated by TIM. She doesn't now what it is, but will carry out the instructions no matter what. She has to have that programming removed.

Shepard was dead too, but Cerberus brought him back. There is also a posibility that Kaiden/Ashly were able to get out of the blast radius in time. That is just the sort of gut-punch bioware is know for hitting you with. Something that you never saw comming.

Do you even finish ME 2?

Because your post sounds like you haven't yet beaten C-base mission, why?, because [Spoiler Alert]

1. Rescued from Collectors bio shake maker crew wll stand behind you no matter what (beside many of them admited that they join Cerberus for Shepard and stop Collectors) because they saw that Shepard won't leave them even against overwhelming odds.

2. EDI - once Joker removed her locks during Collector attack all those failsafes goes out of the window and she get free access to hidden files including status of Cerberus cells.
And she is 100% loyal to Shepard (especialy if during post Collector attack talk i used paragon approach) and Joker and i think she would first shut herself down than left timmy mess up with her systems.

Last part is nothing more than pure speculation since Bioware many times assured that Virmire victim will never return. [/Spoiler Alert]

[_purifico_]

evmiller wrote...


Tim can even have a suprise or two for us when we find him, he can explain that he has a certain friend of ours that we left on Virmire a couple years ago and he/she is ALIVE, and we'll never find him/her if we kill him. We of coarse will find a way to do BOTH and save the day once again.

Well scratch that part and I'm all for it! The xenophobe always dies, and she should stay dead.

[Lord Jaric]

evmiller wrote...

Shepard was dead too, but Cerberus brought him back. There is also a posibility that Kaiden/Ashly were able to get out of the blast radius in time. That is just the sort of gut-punch bioware is know for hitting you with. Something that you never saw comming.

Shepard still had an intact body, who ever was left on virmire was vaporized

[Lord_Tirian]

_purifico_ wrote...

Well scratch that part and I'm all for it! The xenophobe always dies, and she should stay dead.

Also, it would cheapen the whole thing a lot. One thing I liked about ME1 was that it was impossible to make the perfect choice - they were hard choices (or not for some ). Ditto on rachni release - that was another choice in that vein. By making these choices invalid... you'd retroactively make ME1 worse.

[Heavensrun]

Lord_Tirian wrote...

_purifico_ wrote...

Well scratch that part and I'm all for it! The xenophobe always dies, and she should stay dead.

Also, it would cheapen the whole thing a lot. One thing I liked about ME1 was that it was impossible to make the perfect choice - they were hard choices (or not for some ). Ditto on rachni release - that was another choice in that vein. By making these choices invalid... you'd retroactively make ME1 worse.

I always figured if the Virmire sacrifice ever came back in any form, they'd come back indoctrinated by the reapers, since the -only- group that was poised to take them off Virmire would be Soveriegn and the Geth.  Anything else would just raise too many questions and, as said, cheapen their sacrifice.

[dreman9999]

Before anyone even comments about this, the TC should read the book ME:retribution that came out in july. Anyone who readed it would know that it's taken care of. The fact that it takes place well after ME2 AND IT INVOLVES CERBERUS BEING TAKEN DOWN WITH THE EXCEPTION OF TIM AND HIS MOST LOYAL FOLLOWERS. This topic shows just how much of the ME fans read the books.

Modifié par dreman9999, 09 septembre 2010 - 01:46 .

[Krimson_Wolf]

evmiller wrote...

Now that we all teamed up with Liara to take down the Shadow Broker, it's now time to team up with Kaiden/Ashly to take down Cerberus and TIM. Lets' face it, TIM's usefulness has come to an end. Shepard and the Normandy are back and my Shep's banging the Shadow Broker. I think I'll be getting much better intel then the crap TIM's been feeding me. And I found some very damaging documents on Cerberus that I've been holding on to that might accidentally get leaked threw the new shadow broker.

Stage 1: Drop off any pro-Cerberus personell off on Omega.

Stage 2: Work with Mordin and Tali to clean all tracking and survailance equipment off of Normandy.

Stage 3: Mordin and Legion will then wipe EDI's AI core and re-write her programming.

Stage 4: Uniforms and anything with a Cerberus emblem goes to Zaeed's in the Starboard Cargo to be sent out with the trash.

Stage 5: Repaint my feak'in ship!

Final Stage: Liara gives info on TIM's location and we team up with Kaiden/Ashly to take him down.

Tim can even have a suprise or two for us when we find him, he can explain that he has a certain friend of ours that we left on Virmire a couple years ago and he/she is ALIVE, and we'll never find him/her if we kill him. We of coarse will find a way to do BOTH and save the day once again.

We now repair our friendship with Kaiden and/or Ashly and those who had them as LI's can have their moment like my Shep did last night with Liara.  THE END!

That sounds very interesting but the odds of BW doing it are not very good. but anything is possible.

[searanox]

evmiller wrote...

Lets' face it, TIM's usefulness has come to an end.

Cerberus and The Illusive Man were never, ever in any way useful or even necessary to Mass Effect 2.  They were put in the game so that a) we can have Shepard turn into a badass and work with THE ENEMY!, and we could get Martin Sheen to play... Martin Sheen.  The entire plot of Mass Effect 2 was by and large a marketing device and there is absolutely nothing in it at all that is important to the overall story arc in any way whatsoever.

[Heimdall]

While I doubt there will be a "Taking down Cerberus DLC" I fully expect a DLC that focuses on a mission with the virmire survivor and gives those who romanced the survivor the same level of resolution as my character got with Liara in LoTSB

[Multifarious Algorithm]

It's pretty clear that the crew of the Normandy were hand-picked by Cerberus specifically to make Shepard have a positive image of the organization. I mean, absolutely nothing else they do is remotely moral, and holy hell the dossier on them in the Shadow Broker's base paints a pretty bad picture.

[nelly21]

Lord Aesir wrote...

While I doubt there will be a "Taking down Cerberus DLC" I fully expect a DLC that focuses on a mission with the virmire survivor and gives those who romanced the survivor the same level of resolution as my character got with Liara in LoTSB

I agree. I would love to see the Virmire Survivor dlc.

As for the taking down Cerberus dlc, I don't think it would work. A lot of us enjoyed working for Cerberus. I thought the Illusive Man was a very cool character. Also, if you take down Cerberus after keeping the Collector base, what do you do with it? Show up to the Citadel and tell the Council, "So guys...remember when you said that you thought I was crazy and that I couldn't be trusted? Well I just betrayed the group that brought me back and I decided to bring you what might be the most dangerous piece of technology in the galaxy. How's that for proving my sanity?"

It wouldn't work.