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[sagefic]

 again for those who want a ash/kaidan dlc, please stand up and be counted here.

[ExtremeOne]

Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

You know Kaidan or Ashley being slightly mean to Shepard is not a legitimate reason for him (or her) to get revenge. Shepard is not going to kill the virmire survivor just because they hurt his feelings by calling him out on working for a terrorist.

  


your Shepard may not feel like that but thats not how my Shepard feels. and if they get in my way again i will find a way to eliminate them.  but one way or another they will pay 

[Renessa]

I never romanced Liara, but the dialogue between my FemShep and her old friend was so well written, so easy and natural and amusing, the thought of something like that with Kaidan would be absolutely amazing.



My hopes are not high, but when Bioware sees, how much people loved the LotSB perhaps they realize, that people really want more of this.

[SmokePants]

If they did a Kashlen DLC, it would pale in comparison to LOTSB. They would have to write case-neutral dialogue for each of them, even though they are two completely different characters. And they won't be able to exploit sexual tension the same way as with Liara, because your Virmire survivor might be the same sex as Sheperd.

[Ch40sFox]

Renessa wrote...

I never romanced Liara, but the dialogue between my FemShep and her old friend was so well written, so easy and natural and amusing, the thought of something like that with Kaidan would be absolutely amazing.

My hopes are not high, but when Bioware sees, how much people loved the LotSB perhaps they realize, that people really want more of this.

Funny, I chose Kaiden as a friend over Ash....

Couldnt stand her, but that was just me personally...

Horizon hit me even harder, when I mentally compared it to what that would feel like had it been my best friend. Which, considering what Kaiden and Shepard have been through, I would definitely say they are VERY good friends.

It hurt alot, and left me just as speechless as Shepard on Horizon.

I would really like a DLC, that handled both of them, each being completely different for each character, not a clone story for them both.

Ive missed my badass sentinel best friend, just as much as Ive missed my Paleologist Prothean Expert best friend and love interest.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

ExtremeOne wrote...

Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

You know Kaidan or Ashley being slightly mean to Shepard is not a legitimate reason for him (or her) to get revenge. Shepard is not going to kill the virmire survivor just because they hurt his feelings by calling him out on working for a terrorist.

  


your Shepard may not feel like that but thats not how my Shepard feels. and if they get in my way again i will find a way to eliminate them.  but one way or another they will pay 

Shepard is not a petulant child. You won't get any opportunity to roleplay Shepard as someone so insane that they kill people just because they were mean to him.

[syllogi]

SmokePants wrote...

If they did a Kashlen DLC, it would pale in comparison to LOTSB. They would have to write case-neutral dialogue for each of them, even though they are two completely different characters. And they won't be able to exploit sexual tension the same way as with Liara, because your Virmire survivor might be the same sex as Sheperd.

Liara and Shepard's voice actors recorded tons of dialogue dealing with Shepard being female or male, being a romance option or not, if they were faithful or not, if they had finished the suicide mission, etc...  There is no reason why Ashley and Kaidan's voice actors couldn't record dialogue that would reflect their distinct personalities, their relationship status with Shepard, and so on.  Yes, it would cost money, but not some crazy amount for the amount of dialogue used in DLC, and it would be completely worth it to the fans, not to mention adding value in replayability and making new players better acquainted with Ashley or Kaidan before ME3.

As for their words on Horizon, sorry to those who have never ventured out of their parent's homes, but in the real world, you are sometimes held accountable for your actions, even if you have noble intentions and are misunderstood.  Ashley or Kaidan are reacting realistically to the situation, and though it sucks that Shepard can't convince them that what he/she is right, there is absolutely no justification for wanting to murder them for judging your character.  Basically only giant babies who need constant ego stroking are extremely angry at Ashley/Kaidan after Horizon.  Grown-ups may be sad or disappointed, but they realize that misunderstandings happen between adults.

[cihimi]

No.

[Lisa_H]

I really hope that the next DLC will be about Asheley/Kaidan. Since they have began with the bridging DLCs it might be about Shepard reestablish her contact with the Alliance. LotSB shows Bioware is not afraid to have major plots in DLCs.

[nelly21]

I think the dlc should be Ash/Kaiden on a mission to bring Sheperd in for the Alliance. It would be awesome for them to be after Shep because it would place them in an emotional situation: do they trust Shepard or do they do their duty. It would be doubly emotional if they were an LI.

Imagine the emotional confrontations if Ash/Kaiden is in love/best friends with your Shep and the Alliance higher ups are telling them Shep is dangerous and a traitor and has to be detained or killed  fo the greater good.

Modifié par nelly21, 09 septembre 2010 - 08:28 .

[Cossack72]

If they could release a 5 minute DLC that explains how Ash/Kaidan survived the attack and seeker swarms on Horizon, I'd be happy =P

[Anacronian Stryx]

Cossack72 wrote...

If they could release a 5 minute DLC that explains how Ash/Kaidan survived the attack and seeker swarms on Horizon, I'd be happy =P

What is there to explain?

Ash/Kaidan got stung and ended up in a stasis field and they were lucky enough to amongst those who were left behind when Shep chased the collectors away.

[Spinnazie]

not gonna happen.

[Cossack72]

Anacronian Stryx wrote...

Cossack72 wrote...

If they could release a 5 minute DLC that explains how Ash/Kaidan survived the attack and seeker swarms on Horizon, I'd be happy =P

What is there to explain?

Ash/Kaidan got stung and ended up in a stasis field and they were lucky enough to amongst those who were left behind when Shep chased the collectors away.

I dunno, maybe to see how the seeker stasis wears off (Assuming it's different from the normal kind). Heck, a little cinematic where it wears off and they make a witty one-liner would be okay too

Modifié par Cossack72, 09 septembre 2010 - 08:47 .

[royceclemens]

Spin****e wrote...

not gonna happen.

This.  For a couple of reasons.

The first, after reading Christina Norman's developer diary about how hard it was to integrate Liara as a squadmate. they may not want to venture all those resources for not only doing it again, but doing it twice more for the separate classes that Ashley and Kaidan are.  Of course, they could pump one out where The VirSur isn't a squadmate at all, but rather an NPC.  But then the aggrieved Ashley and Kaidan fans would grumble even louder for unfair treatment.

And the second (and this is the important one) is that if the loose ends are tied up with the VirSur in DLC, then what's left for ME3?  What in pluperfect hell could they possibly have to talk about in the next game?  "Remember the one time we did the one thing and that other thing happened?  That was GREAT!"  At least with LotSB (not to go too far into specifics for latecomers to that particular gem) they're advancing the plot in a meaningful way that could have vast, galaxy-shaking repercussions later.  At least that's what it looks like where I'm sitting.  The only thing a VirSur DLC could possibly do is provide fanservice that could potentially compromise ME3.

I get that fans of Ashley and Kaidan are feeling down in the dumps.  I get that they're feeling marginalized and kicked to the side.  I feel their pain.  But if they want the solid treatment that they feel they deserve, they're gonna have to wait for it. 

[Mox Ruuga]

If character focused, in the manner of the Liara DLC, yes. Either them, or Wrex. Though unfortunately poor Wrex has rather poor odds, considering the ME2 noobs will hardly know he ever existed...

[cihimi]

You can character focus as much as you want until your nose bleed, but the Ashley character will remain as flat as a pancake and boring as mud. Gaidan is as emotive like a rock projects emotion. So it will just be a waste to even consider these two.

[shinobi602]

cihimi wrote...

You can character focus as much as you want until your nose bleed, but the Ashley character will remain as flat as a pancake and boring as mud. Gaidan is as emotive like a rock projects emotion. So it will just be a waste to even consider these two.

Well, that's your opinion. The tons of Ash/Kaidan fans feel otherwise, so it wouldn't be a waste.

[Dave of Canada]

royceclemens wrote...

*snip*

I get that fans of Ashley and Kaidan are feeling down in the dumps.  I get that they're feeling marginalized and kicked to the side.  I feel their pain.  But if they want the solid treatment that they feel they deserve, they're gonna have to wait for it. 

While I see your point (they are all valid), going into Mass Effect 3 with Ashley and Kaidan hating my guts won't be enjoyable all around. Even those who didn't romance them would probably enjoy getting back on their good sides. While Liara's romance is jumping thousands of light years ahead (the complications of romancing her after the DLC is very interesting) of the VS, we're trapped with the love letter that says "sry i called u a baddie lol <3".

[Chignon]

royceclemens wrote...

This.  For a couple of reasons.

The first, after reading Christina Norman's developer diary about how hard it was to integrate Liara as a squadmate. they may not want to venture all those resources for not only doing it again, but doing it twice more for the separate classes that Ashley and Kaidan are.  Of course, they could pump one out where The VirSur isn't a squadmate at all, but rather an NPC.  But then the aggrieved Ashley and Kaidan fans would grumble even louder for unfair treatment..

Pure assumption on your part.
As Brodyaha pointed out, "Don't forget about the new enemies that had to be written up, developed, and recorded just for a couple minutes in LotSB". So, why is it so unreasonable for Bioware to maybe put the same amount of work and quality in a DLC for Ashley and Kaidan.

And the second (and this is the important one) is that if the loose ends are tied up with the VirSur in DLC, then what's left for ME3?  What in pluperfect hell could they possibly have to talk about in the next game?  "Remember the one time we did the one thing and that other thing happened?  That was GREAT!"  At least with LotSB (not to go too far into specifics for latecomers to that particular gem) they're advancing the plot in a meaningful way that could have vast, galaxy-shaking repercussions later.  At least that's what it looks like where I'm sitting.  The only thing a VirSur DLC could possibly do is provide fanservice that could potentially compromise ME3.

I don't know why you think that a possible VS DLC would ultimately tie up all loose ends. It could only be the foundation for the path your Shepard wants to go (i.e. loyal to Cerberus or the Alliance) and make it possible to reconcile with Ashley or Kaidan, to give you something to work with in ME3 - similiar to how things were handled with Liara in LotSB.

If you are interested, you can read different suggestions on how such a DLC could be handled in this thread here.

Modifié par Chignon, 09 septembre 2010 - 10:19 .

[Wrathra]

ExtremeOne wrote...

thats a problem for those 2 to deal with. so just because they are loyal to the alliance doesn't gives them the right to chew Shepard's a** out for working with Cerberus. what made it worse was Shepard was basically muted could not respond in a logical way. oh and you see how pissed he or she is when he / she tells Joker to send the shuttle. 

Shepard was gone for two years and shows up with some ridiculous story about coming back from the dead, while working with a terrorist group that did horrible things in ME1. Plus, the VS found out Shepard was still alive because of leaks from TIM.

The VS had every right to be pissed.

[cihimi]

Wrathra wrote...

ExtremeOne wrote...

thats a problem for those 2 to deal with. so just because they are loyal to the alliance doesn't gives them the right to chew Shepard's a** out for working with Cerberus. what made it worse was Shepard was basically muted could not respond in a logical way. oh and you see how pissed he or she is when he / she tells Joker to send the shuttle. 

Shepard was gone for two years and shows up with some ridiculous story about coming back from the dead, while working with a terrorist group that did horrible things in ME1. Plus, the VS found out Shepard was still alive because of leaks from TIM.

The VS had every right to be pissed.

Um... Shep did come back from the dead, so to speak. He's doing what he can to save humans, including the stupid ones, with what resources he can get/use. If he has to sleep with the Devil, he will. And see the thanks he gets. These people readily  believe what Alliance intel tells them but don't give a whiff about Shep's reasons why he's doing what he's currently doing.
With mates like them, who needs... well, you know the rest. 

[Pacifien]

There's already a topic about this going on in the General Discussion forum. Feel free to discuss it there. http://social.biowar...3/index/4558663