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I was thinking over the DLC thing and here is what I came up with...and you know in my own opinion, I think it would sell cart loads for the game and BW... but I know one thing: 

1. It would be too expensive because you would have to have considerable  voice acting done.

Now the idea?

Why not have an interchangable style  DLC in which you as either  Male or Female Shepard can do the   " Have a Date"  DLC, in which  Fem/Male Shep can select who he/she wishes to take out on a date and you would have a total of maybe.... 5 to 6 locations to choose from.  Each place would affect the mood and dialouge each character would use and your final outcome of this...shall we sall --- mini-game within the DLC,  would be to keep a meter track towards say --- the  " Love Heart" as opposed to the " Broken Heart"   ( Think  DA)  where at the end the character gets a fresh new love scene that is more involved  ( I didn't say dirty --- I said involved).  The player however can screw up his or her chances if they fail to choose the right sequences of  well written dialouge transactions and the more you improve your relation, you get more paragon points and the more crappy of a job you do --- you get Renegade points.


Also in it --- it would be like reading the Dossies of those individuals in that, you learn more about them, their past, and far more details of  Shepard's partner ---  for instance --- you can have a date with Miranada and at one point, she tells you about her quest to see if she could be able to bear children or not... but you don't get t othat point if you say --- choose a location that wouldn't fit her character  (  you would have to have clues and select this location of course... but your final decision effects the outcome).  

At the end, it doesn't mean if there's a crappy date that you automatically break up or anything its just that you miss out on the " good" ending versus the " bad ending" .

So you see where I'm getting at as far as the voice acting.

But imagine if they pulled this type of DLC off?  I'm telling you Bio Ware you would have thousands of more consumers --- and thats no joke. I don't think I'm alone with this one.

What do you all feel about it?

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^ Yeah not going to happen, unless BW makes an expansion pack to get enogh money for the voice actors.

My idea is like the Liar of the Shadow Broker but it's with the virmire survivor. They could say that after horizon Ash/Kaid, was accused of treason from the Alliance for consorting with Shepard and not apprehending him/her for treason. So, you get a desperate E-mail from A/K to ask Shep for help in escaping the Alliance, C-sec, or even a bounty hunter. Throughout the escape Shep and A/K can make amends and setup for possible recruitment and L.I for ME3.

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There is a hint about releasing new Alternate Appearance pack.Bioware took some suggestions and i think they are finishing it soon That is good start.I think we can safely expect new armor pack similar to Aegis just for biotic and tech chars.



As for big DLC, well, there are alot of things left to do in Milky Way (many already mentioned here) before Reapers arrival. Only thing we can do is to let Bioware people decide which to use as DLC and which to leave for ME3.



I find Shepards origin DLC exceptionaly good idea.I mean our hero spent most of his life resolving other ppls problems.Maybe its time for him to do something for himself.For example as Spacer you can meet your mother ( for whatever reason, maybe something to do with her resignation from admiral rank), or as Colonist... i dunno maybe something with captain who led Alliance patrol who saved you from slavers, or as Earthborn to face criminal bosses who made your life difficult in slums of Earth.In fact all 3 quests can easily lead you to Earth which we never had chance to visit in ME universe.

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Microsoft has ME2 DLC on sale starting Oct 11. Microsoft has a tendency to put DLC on sale the same week a new DLC is released. I predict we might see something released on Oct 12.

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If Bioware wants to bring Wrex, Ash, or Kaiden back in DLC they should bring them back in a post-suicide mission storyline expansion pack.

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Why do people want all this dating sim crap? I love the romances too, but I'm still not going to pay for a DLC where I don't get to shoot anybody.

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Ritly13 wrote...

^ Yeah not going to happen, unless BW makes an expansion pack to get enogh money for the voice actors.

My idea is like the Liar of the Shadow Broker but it's with the virmire survivor. They could say that after horizon Ash/Kaid, was accused of treason from the Alliance for consorting with Shepard and not apprehending him/her for treason. So, you get a desperate E-mail from A/K to ask Shep for help in escaping the Alliance, C-sec, or even a bounty hunter. Throughout the escape Shep and A/K can make amends and setup for possible recruitment and L.I for ME3.


Yeah I know --- it would indeed never happen BUT IF IT DID --- I do believe many, many, people would replay that as well as buy it.

I like the Virmire survivor branch as well too.

Modifié par MrnDvlDg161, 07 octobre 2010 - 02:04 .


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casedawgz wrote...

Why do people want all this dating sim crap? I love the romances too, but I'm still not going to pay for a DLC where I don't get to shoot anybody.


Well then you wouldn't get the DLC --- that was easy enough.

However you do realise there are many people who would be interested in such a thing and therefore thats why it would sell --- even though it wouldn't be your cup of tea of which I respect...but then you have Overlord, Shadow Broker, and all the shooting you want throughout the game.

Modifié par MrnDvlDg161, 07 octobre 2010 - 02:06 .


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Many people on this board maybe. We're not an accurate representation of the fanbase. Who largely enjoys shooting things.

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casedawgz wrote...

Many people on this board maybe. We're not an accurate representation of the fanbase. Who largely enjoys shooting things.


.... with an equal need for more story and plot.

This would be a great balance.

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No. It wouldn't. LotSB is great because it weaves strong narrative and characterization in with some of the most dynamic and interesting gameplay the franchise has seen. Going to the county fair with Ashley is not the way to move forward.

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lol --- who said it would be cheap in terms of the county fair.



Explosions and gunfire works in its own right, however, character involvement and plot depth is what supports why the gun fire and explosions exist.



But again --- I point out --- it just wouldn't be a DLC you would be interested in --- just like there are many who don't obtain all of the DLC anyway. Choice is a good thing.




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I give up. I maintain that it's a bad idea but I'm done trying to convince you.

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casedawgz wrote...

No. It wouldn't. LotSB is great because it weaves strong narrative and characterization in with some of the most dynamic and interesting gameplay the franchise has seen. Going to the county fair with Ashley is not the way to move forward.


Agreed.  I certainly don't mind DLC that features character exposition, but there needs to be solid gameplay as well.  I've beaten Mass Effect 2 more times than I'd care to admit, and I groan every time the non-combat loyalty missions come up.  They were entertaining the first two times to see the different outcomes, but combat is what holds my attention over multiple playthroughs.

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GreenSoda wrote...

Joshua nash wrote...

the post dlc that i want is something that allows you to turn the shadow broker base into shepard's base opening it up to you to explore more of it and then gives you a mission to track down TIM and gives you the choice to either kill him or arrest him and then either disband/destroy cerberus or take control of it

DLC that builds on top of other DLC ? I don't see that happening (unnecessarily limits the number of potential buyers).


It would be no different than the default choices that BW made for ME2 when it came to the Krogan homeworld, the people from Feros, and the Virmire people.  You could easily do the same with Cerberus as a DLC.  The thing would be to make it so that it was different than the ShadowBroker DLC. 

But you could easily tie in the choices that you made going in the ShadowBroker DLC to change the experience.

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If there would be a "Krogan" DLC involving Wrex the perfect achivement would be "Whiplash" for headbutting 20 or more Krogans he he he.

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I cant think that forums will actually influence Prod. That wouldnt be good business. 

While I'm sure the import is taking a major part of Bioware, you can't forget that they have several studios around the world. And after all, it's just a port.
 
DLC was probably planned months in advance. I work in QA and DLC is pitched at the very beginning of FPP(second "pitch" with several working prototypes and "maps". 

But hey, I`ll just be glad when they announce it. I'm still just guessing though :P


Actually, it's poor business practice to ignore  the comments/concerns/suggestions of your consumers.  Extremely poor.  In fact, if the consumers feel their comments/concerns/suggestions aren't being taken into consideration, they stop buying the product.  This forum is but one of many mediums that BW should be looking at when it comes to improving the ME product for additions to ME2 and improvements to ME3.  

It's already been stated that there were separate teams for ME2/ME2 DLC and ME3.  BW could easily buy themselves time by putting out "bridging" ME2/ME3 DLC with the suggestions that have been put up in this forum and it would make most of the ME Universe happy and even more ravenous for ME3.  So, the idea that doing ME2 DLC would take resources away from ME3 doesn't hold water.  In fact, it gives BW more time to get ME3 fleshed out. 

There have been 6 or 7 ideas for DLC that could easily help "BRIDGE" ME2 to ME3.  I hope that the ME team does a better job on them than the DA:O teams did.  The LotSB DLC set the bar high.  And they'll hear about it from their very strong ME Universe.  

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lazuli wrote...

casedawgz wrote...

No. It wouldn't. LotSB is great because it weaves strong narrative and characterization in with some of the most dynamic and interesting gameplay the franchise has seen. Going to the county fair with Ashley is not the way to move forward.


Agreed.  I certainly don't mind DLC that features character exposition, but there needs to be solid gameplay as well.  I've beaten Mass Effect 2 more times than I'd care to admit, and I groan every time the non-combat loyalty missions come up.  They were entertaining the first two times to see the different outcomes, but combat is what holds my attention over multiple playthroughs.


Story is very very important in allowing us to be engrossed and to endear the series to our hearts. There's no doubting that. The games you remember years later usually had a story with it that you felt connected to.

However, gameplay keeps you playing. Bad stories can be enjoyable if the gameplay is great, addictive, and fun but bad gameplay can sink a game that has a good story. So I fully agree with you a romance DLC is not profitable avenue.

There's this big galaxy-wide threat and possibly you've made enemies with a terrorist organization that's likely spying on you constantly since you're in their ship. There are other things worth exploring instead, funner things too. However, that doesn't mean that characters get side-lined. I think a Miranda DLC focusing on her father and his business would be great.

....hard to think of something to do with the others.

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Wynteryth wrote...

GreenSoda wrote...

Joshua nash wrote...

the post dlc that i want is something that allows you to turn the shadow broker base into shepard's base opening it up to you to explore more of it and then gives you a mission to track down TIM and gives you the choice to either kill him or arrest him and then either disband/destroy cerberus or take control of it

DLC that builds on top of other DLC ? I don't see that happening (unnecessarily limits the number of potential buyers).


It would be no different than the default choices that BW made for ME2 when it came to the Krogan homeworld, the people from Feros, and the Virmire people.  You could easily do the same with Cerberus as a DLC.  The thing would be to make it so that it was different than the ShadowBroker DLC. 

But you could easily tie in the choices that you made going in the ShadowBroker DLC to change the experience.




As far as DLC building on previous DLC I'd really really dig Liara setting up quests after the Collector Base. We have a whole new Hub that's largely empty and a promise for more DLC that bridges ME2 to ME3. It would be a colossial waste if they didn't build on LotSB in some way.

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I think LotSB is the building blocks for all future dlc. It gets the player away from cerberus emails and such... especially since a good chunk of us told TIM to suck a big one.

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Bennyjammin79 wrote...

I think LotSB is the building blocks for all future dlc. It gets the player away from cerberus emails and such... especially since a good chunk of us told TIM to suck a big one.


Ok, but what if you download one of these future DLC's without downloading and completing Lair of the Shadow Broker?

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Ok, but what if you download one of these future DLC's without downloading and completing Lair of the Shadow Broker?


Then somebody comes to your house and kicks you in the junk for being an idiot.

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I quite like the idea of having a different genre of DLC at some point - I mean don't get me wrong, I love killing bad guys as much as the next Shephard, but it would be nice to play a DLC where its relaxed and laid back. Possibly a personal errand for Shephard, or a romance based DLC. I'd really like to see them explore Shephard's background - his/her home, family, childhood..something along those lines. It would be great to find out more about the main character since we do play him/her for the whole of the trilogy.



But in saying that, Bioware stated that the DLC's would be building blocks which explain the story leading from ME2 into ME3, so unsure how Shephard's Mum would fit into that... :P

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MrnDvlDg161 wrote...

I was thinking over the DLC thing and here is what I came up with...and you know in my own opinion, I think it would sell cart loads for the game and BW... but I know one thing: 

1. It would be too expensive because you would have to have considerable  voice acting done.

Now the idea?

Why not have an interchangable style  DLC in which you as either  Male or Female Shepard can do the   " Have a Date"  DLC, in which  Fem/Male Shep can select who he/she wishes to take out on a date and you would have a total of maybe.... 5 to 6 locations to choose from.  Each place would affect the mood and dialouge each character would use and your final outcome of this...shall we sall --- mini-game within the DLC,  would be to keep a meter track towards say --- the  " Love Heart" as opposed to the " Broken Heart"   ( Think  DA)  where at the end the character gets a fresh new love scene that is more involved  ( I didn't say dirty --- I said involved).  The player however can screw up his or her chances if they fail to choose the right sequences of  well written dialouge transactions and the more you improve your relation, you get more paragon points and the more crappy of a job you do --- you get Renegade points.


Also in it --- it would be like reading the Dossies of those individuals in that, you learn more about them, their past, and far more details of  Shepard's partner ---  for instance --- you can have a date with Miranada and at one point, she tells you about her quest to see if she could be able to bear children or not... but you don't get t othat point if you say --- choose a location that wouldn't fit her character  (  you would have to have clues and select this location of course... but your final decision effects the outcome).  

At the end, it doesn't mean if there's a crappy date that you automatically break up or anything its just that you miss out on the " good" ending versus the " bad ending" .

So you see where I'm getting at as far as the voice acting.

But imagine if they pulled this type of DLC off?  I'm telling you Bio Ware you would have thousands of more consumers --- and thats no joke. I don't think I'm alone with this one.

What do you all feel about it?




I support this idea.  I actually had an idea similar to this after I had completed the game.  I saw it more as a feature that could be added along with a main combat DLC.  (Ex: Have a main plot that involves combat while throwing in the "date" feature as an extra for those who want to feel more interacted with whomever they romanced in the game).  It would be a considerable amount of content for a DLC but they could always raise the price (I’d buy it).  That way it would cater to both audiences (people who want action and those who want to go further on with their romances).

I also wouldn't mind more dialog from everybody altogether... Garrus has been working on his damn calibrations so long I'm surprised he had time to help me with the collectors.   

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Now I enjoy the romance bits in game as much as the rest. But what is the attraction of a romance/date dlc??



I mean romance mixed into the story and action works but on its own it would be quite dull. Thats what the sims are for.



Would people not be better off to go out on a real date or have a real romance instead of BW creating a a digital date for them?(Digital date would be cheaper mind you)



Anyway Id love to see The Geth/Quarian war DLC. This one is prob for ME3 but no harm wishing.