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[R-Taco]

I'm not too interested in a VS DLC, but that's mostly because I never interacted much with Kaiden (or Ashley). And instead of a full expansion, I'm hoping for more LOTSB-sized (maybe slightly bigger) content. Ideally, they'd all be optional (you wouldn't need to beat one to play the next) but have major effects on what happens in ME3.

What I would like to see is having the squadmates more involved. The DLC so far has them acting as little more than extra guns. Having them affect the plot would be awesome, but I'd still be happy just to have more unique dialogue.

Modifié par R-Taco, 22 octobre 2010 - 03:00 .

[achwas]

TerminatorGuy22 wrote...

Is it just me or does it look like that Shiala is going to be a Romance Interest in Mass Effect 3.

Since she is dead in "plain vanilla" ME-2 (playthrough without mE-1 import), I guess that is a "no-go"

[achwas]

Fortlowe wrote...

I'd like a scenario that isolates Shep from the crew in a survival horror scenario. Limited radio contact and ammo. Maybe no ammo at all except for what Shep has on hand at the start of the mission. A focus on escape instead of the usual saving the crew/ship/world/galaxy by kicking the badguys **** that is the general objective of Shep's missions (not that I don't like giving the badguys the ol' backside boot). Geniune fright, either from Shep, or from whoever his radio contact is, would be a welcome departure, though.

Obviously, I enjoyed Dead Space and Alien. And seeing as Overlord was a homage to Bioshock. Why not do a DLC in reverrence to Dead pace.

Bit too much of an advantageous slant for the "caster" classes : Engineer, Sentinel and Adept. Since biotics/tech powers use no ammo, but fry stuff quite nicely.

[FuturePasTimeCE]

they should make a Contact+Inception+Sherock Holmes+Ocean 13 like DLC... instead of dreaming... just layers and layers of "stuff"... psychological thriller + action... deep, stylish, and exciting with great music. 

like shepard exploring a secret building based on highly advanced prothean technology... sort of like Illos+kasumi's+LOTSB+Overlord all in one type of mission...

dude, Mass Effect 2 could totally make a awesome DLC similar to the franchise that inspired HALO, called Metroid

super technology stuff

super cool idea... 

Halo is totally a Metroid variant

Modifié par FuturePasTimeCE, 22 octobre 2010 - 12:12 .

[GreenSoda]

achwas wrote...

TerminatorGuy22 wrote...

Is it just me or does it look like that Shiala is going to be a Romance Interest in Mass Effect 3.

Since she is dead in "plain vanilla" ME-2 (playthrough without mE-1 import), I guess that is a "no-go"

Imo BW is currently exploring the non-party member romance (similar to what they did with Kelly).

Shiala might be in this category for ME3.

[Commander Raiden]

After just completing the latest DLC and how awesome it was, the next download can't come soon enough!! They should release a 12 mission pack or something..lol, on another note whats the chances that whatever the next DLC will be.. will arrive before the PS3 version of ME2??

[kalle90]

casedawgz wrote...
Someone is always going to choose your team for you. It's the nature of the medium. There's a point where choice ends and alternatives just aren't in the game.

True, but we have had 16 squadmates so far. I like them all more or less and it sounds like a viable pool of potential squadmates. Naturally there could be a few more to keep things fresh, give newcomers something etc.

This series is based on choices and consequenses and ME3 should offer maximal number of them. Team is a very important part

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

Can we at least get a time frame for when we'll hear about the next DLC? Or an xpack!



BioWare doesn't have anything coming for Christmas... DAO's DLC is done, DA2 isn't till March... You would think they would want to have =something= for the holiday season, right?



Last I read, the Star Wars MMO wasn't hitting until early 2011...

[SimonTheFrog]

GreenSoda wrote...

achwas wrote...

TerminatorGuy22 wrote...

Is it just me or does it look like that Shiala is going to be a Romance Interest in Mass Effect 3.

Since she is dead in "plain vanilla" ME-2 (playthrough without mE-1 import), I guess that is a "no-go"

Imo BW is currently exploring the non-party member romance (similar to what they did with Kelly).

Shiala might be in this category for ME3.

What makes you think that? Are there any rumors or statements on this?

[Fortlowe]

achwas wrote...

Fortlowe wrote...

I'd like a scenario that isolates Shep from the crew in a survival horror scenario. Limited radio contact and ammo. Maybe no ammo at all except for what Shep has on hand at the start of the mission. A focus on escape instead of the usual saving the crew/ship/world/galaxy by kicking the badguys **** that is the general objective of Shep's missions (not that I don't like giving the badguys the ol' backside boot). Geniune fright, either from Shep, or from whoever his radio contact is, would be a welcome departure, though.

Obviously, I enjoyed Dead Space and Alien. And seeing as Overlord was a homage to Bioshock. Why not do a DLC in reverrence to Dead pace.

Bit too much of an advantageous slant for the "caster" classes : Engineer, Sentinel and Adept. Since biotics/tech powers use no ammo, but fry stuff quite nicely.

True. Hadn't considered that. Obviously, I'm a soldier class. Maybe something involving a substance like the one  from the Justicar recruitment mission? Everytime biotics or tech are used health is reduced.

[morley37]

Seriously. Some of you are really thick.

Start with what BW has explicitly told us: 1) There will be more DLC 2) the release pace will be slower 3) They will be to Bridge the Gap between ME2 and 3.

What can we deduce from this?

1. They will not be random adventures/missions. Those would not bridge the gap.
2. They will not be fill-in-the-backstory. Those would not bridge the gap.
3. They will not expand Omega/Citadel/Tuchanka/whatev just for the sake of it. Those would not bridge the gap.

Every time I read a post where someone requests a DLC that would fall into one of these categories, I feel my IQ decrease. BW is telling you what you are going to get. In plain english. With small words. You're like small children who can't quite grasp the meaning of the word "no". Every time you think of something you would like to see in a DLC, stop and ask yourself, "how does this bridge the gap to ME3?" If you can't come up with a concise, specific answer, you are wasting everyone's time by posting it: yours, mine, bioware's. Stop it.

Will there be a romance/dialog DLC? probably not. Which makes sense. It would be so small and straightforward as to be more of a patch than a DLC anyway.

Will there be an appearance pack 2? probably not, but just maybe. I imagine such a thing is a small undertaking, and a relatively easy bone to throw.

I confess that I have not read the novels/comics. But I can reasonably guess that the only way DLC will introduce new characters that will make ME3 would be to bring in peeps from the literature, and only if that makes chronological sense. The ME universe is not hurting for characters.

[kalle90]

Still about the "Squad DLC"

All the former squadmates are important parts of their factions:
- Zaeed: The former leader of Blue Suns (Mercs)
- Legion: The outworld messenger and agent of Geth (Geth)
- Samara: A most respected justicar (Asari)
- Tali: One of the best quarians (Quarians)
- Mordin: Genius scientist (Science/Salarian)
- Garrus: The best of Citadel (C-sec/Council)
- Miranda: Still the best of Cerberus (Cerberus)
- Grunt: The new hope of Krogan (Krogan)
- Jacob: Wide connections (Alliance-Cerberus atleast)
- Thane: Link to other drell and hanar (Hanar)
- Jack: Superb criminal (Outcasts)
- Kasumi: -insert something-
- Ashley/Kaidan: Alliance officer (Alliance)
- Wrex: The leader of Krogan (Krogan)
- Liara: The SB (Information)

Thing is none of those are individually irreplaceable, but they all build up. "We" can survive even if we don't have infinite information or if all mercs don't work as 1 big army, but each miss reduces the chances of success a bit. So in the big picture choosing who we want with Shepard instead wouldn't be a game-breaker.

[morley37]

...so what might be in the DLCs? good question. Let's be clever and try to figure it out instead of making stupid random guesses or just guessing what we hope for.

We know there will be more. If it were just one more, they probably would have said that. So at least a couple. The slower pace implies that they will be long and finely crafted, so something on the scale/level of Shadow Broker would make sense. Let us take that as our model.

As for the what, what bridges the gap? The most obvious is tying up loose ends. The second most obvious is digging up things briefly referred to.

Now, the question of scale. After ME2 obviously the geth question is a giant flaming neon sign of a loose end. But think about it this way: If that question is handled and tied up in a 3 hour DLC, would that be satisfying from a storytelling perspective? Hells no. It's far too big a question to be tied up in 3 hours. The Geth are THE #1 subplot of the whole ME series. The issue of the geth is going to be a major, major plotline in ME3. It almost has to be.

Next possibility: The Virmire survivor. I think this is doubtful. First, the Shadow Broker story thread had an obvious action-mission to go with the story. Liara is looking for him. She finds him. You go kill him. She takes over. The fightin' part is fairly obvious. The story utility is fairly obvious: with a friendly shadow broker, Shep no longer needs the illusive man. The Virmire survivor points to no obvious fightin' part. And while the plot practically begs for the survivor to return, It falls beautifully into ME3 towards the end of act 1/beginning of act 2, exactly where it fell in ME2.

So we need loose ends, but they can't be enormous loose ends, like the geth. We also need a fightin' part, and a story utility. Without thinking about this too hard, let me throw out a few:

Rachni: doubt it, they can just appear at some point in ME3. Again, no obvious fightin' part.

Aria: actually not a bad guess at all. One of the most obvious avenues (again, like Shadow Broker) is rounding up allies (not necessarily squadmates) for the Big Fight. Not too hard to imagine a fightin' part, and Aria's value as an ally in the Big Fight as some sort of Underworld Kingpin (Queenpin?) is pretty straightforward. 

Urdnot: either Wrex or not-wrex, doesn't matter much. Unifying the krogan, a good 3 hour fight, obvious ally.

Council/Spectre: A bit tricky, but possible. It is hard to imagine exactly what the plot (or the fight) would be, but it in terms of the needs of the story arc, something needs to happen here before the climax of ME3. The question is where you put it.

Anderson: Too much has been invested in him. He'll be back for ME3 as Shep's voice before the council. But what in the world would his DLC consist of? He keeps saying he's too old to fight. I am inclined to think he is not lying, and the notion of him "coming out of retirement", so to speak, is more of a tease.

Thane: nope. completely undermines his character's motivation. Bioware are really good storytellers: this would be an amateurish mistake.

The Illusive Man: Got a feeling about this one. You know he'll be back for ME3. You don't bring in Martin Sheen unless you plan on getting your money's worth. His standing vis-a-vis shep needs to be dealt with one way or another. The biggest question is what exactly the mission would be.

The Dying Sun: definitely a loose end. This will be a big something in ME3. But you can imagine a mission where you fight through to discover what the deal really is. The discovery of the reason can take place before ME3 without subracting from the story there. This is a real possibility: just the sort of loose end that is mysterious and big enough but not too big. 

Kal'reegar: Does anyone not see him as a squad member in ME3, especially if the plot has Tali off doing something else? Easy to introduce him in a DLC, would dovetail beautifully with the Dying Sun possibility.

Samara's other daughters: meh. would have made a fun DLC, but bridges to absolutely nothing in ME3. Do you really see a major A-Y plotline in ME3?

As far as dredging up brief references, the most obvious one to come to mind is Klencory. And by obvious, I mean screaming obvious. Somewhere between the DLC and ME3, we will be going to Klencory. The only question is when. This is the next Klendagon, where everyone and their sister can see it coming up again.

[morley37]

kalle90 wrote...

Still about the "Squad DLC"

All the former squadmates are important parts of their factions:
- Zaeed: The former leader of Blue Suns (Mercs)
- Legion: The outworld messenger and agent of Geth (Geth)
- Samara: A most respected justicar (Asari)
- Tali: One of the best quarians (Quarians)
- Mordin: Genius scientist (Science/Salarian)
- Garrus: The best of Citadel (C-sec/Council)
- Miranda: Still the best of Cerberus (Cerberus)
- Grunt: The new hope of Krogan (Krogan)
- Jacob: Wide connections (Alliance-Cerberus atleast)
- Thane: Link to other drell and hanar (Hanar)
- Jack: Superb criminal (Outcasts)
- Kasumi: -insert something-
- Ashley/Kaidan: Alliance officer (Alliance)
- Wrex: The leader of Krogan (Krogan)
- Liara: The SB (Information)

Thing is none of those are individually irreplaceable, but they all build up. "We" can survive even if we don't have infinite information or if all mercs don't work as 1 big army, but each miss reduces the chances of success a bit. So in the big picture choosing who we want with Shepard instead wouldn't be a game-breaker.

Lot of good points here. But a bit of a stretch on some, and most others, while true, don't really conjure up a DLC. Most of the "criminal element" peeps would be hard pressed to claim some sort of leadership over a "criminal" faction (jack and kasumi). Zaeed pretty well blew up the blue suns as a faction. I am going to post again about this. I think you might be on to something...

[PseudoEthnic]

morley37 wrote...

Kal'reegar: Does anyone not see him as a squad member in ME3, especially if the plot has Tali off doing something else? Easy to introduce him in a DLC, would dovetail beautifully with the Dying Sun possibility.

Why do people forget that Kal'Reegar can die in the game? Seriously!

[morley37]

Let's look at recruiting factions as allies:

First, a look at factions and our best bridges into them:

Council/Citadel: Anderson (not garrus, who left)
Turians: Garrus
Krogan: Wrex, Grunt
Asari: Liara, Samara (or the "other" samara, as I try not to have a spoiler)
Salarian: Mordin
Mercenaries: Zaeed, but didn't we pretty much destroy every faction in ME2?
Geth: Legion
Quarians: Tali
Cerberus: Illuminated man, Miranda (try not to spoiler here, but this one may not be woo-able, no?)
Alliance: Anderson, virmire survivor
Drell/Hanar: Thane
SB: the SB
Underworld: Aria
Terminus: Aria? Otherwise, who?
Rachni: The queen
Anti-alliance humans: ?

So, looking at this list, what can we learn? We can eliminate some as simply not making any sense. Through Legion, we are already in with the orthodox geth. Garrus isn't exactly super-connected to the Turian Hierarchy. Liara already had her star turn. Thane is dying: if he reappears it will be as an NPC. Also, his ally-making utility is completely down to who exactly were the Hanar who trained him, and how well-connected they were. Tali's story is too big. Zaeed's story is already told. What exactly would an Anderson mission look like?

So this leaves a few possibilities:

The Salarians: A Mordin mission. One could see the quick-thinking salarians as being the alien species most likely to take action based on scanty or circumstantial evidence, at least action in STG form. Mission could be covert info-gathering with the STG to persuade the Salarians to get on board.

Clan Urdnot: already discussed elsewhere, ad infinitum

Asari: would have to be through Samara, which seems a little questionable politically. "The Justicar Code is so strict and strange, while deciding on war with an enemy which may or may not exist is a much more nuanced issue..."

Cerberus: would be a good choice, but would only make sense for a paragon shep. What would this consist of for a renegade shep? They already love you. Look, one of the major issues of ME3 is how shep relates to cerberus/illusive man. These issues are far better left for ME3.

Alliance: Somewhere this is going to have to be addressed, but I am not sure that Shep simply standing up and saying, "what up, ****es? I'm still alive!" having already rejected the illusive man wouldn't be enough for the alliance to be in his camp.

Underworld/Terminus: Aria. This might be the simplest DLC to imagine. A valuable faction-ally. Easy to work in some good fights. An interesting badass character that everyone likes. Shep helps her with something. She throws in with him.

Did I miss anything?

[morley37]

PseudoEthnic wrote...

morley37 wrote...

Kal'reegar: Does anyone not see him as a squad member in ME3, especially if the plot has Tali off doing something else? Easy to introduce him in a DLC, would dovetail beautifully with the Dying Sun possibility.

Why do people forget that Kal'Reegar can die in the game? Seriously!

dammit. I forgot. Good point. He'll get a wrex cameo though I bet.

[squidney2k1]

I'm starting to think that there will not be any more DLC (save for a single Appearance Pack) until after the release of ME2 for the PS3 next year....and don't expect even an Appearance Pack until December.

[AlbertoAquilani]

squidney2k1 wrote...

I'm starting to think that there will not be any more DLC (save for a single Appearance Pack) until after the release of ME2 for the PS3 next year....and don't expect even an Appearance Pack until December.

I hope not... wouldn't it make more sense to release something then package it with ME 2 PS3?

Anyway, this is the longest time without a DLC announcement. I'm hoping we here something anyday now.

[Commander Raiden]

As far as I am concerned as long as its on a similar level to the quality of the Shadow Broker DLC thats the main thing, out of the 3 main DLC's released so far (Kasumi, Overlord, Shadow Broker) Shadow Broker was the best by a country mile so to speak..

[Albatenius]

I have a feeling that the next DLC will have something to do with Omega.

[Barhador]

Wrex can be dead for people. I know I wouldn't make content not everyone could play and I doubt BW will.

[N0touchi]

Barhador wrote...

Wrex can be dead for people. I know I wouldn't make content not everyone could play and I doubt BW will.

Yes, but either way, there could be Unifying the Krogan DLC.

[imaDEVIENT]

I think the next DLC should have something to do with todays,10/23, Cerberus Network news update.

Bombings on Omega.

[Rads GN006]

morley37 wrote...

PseudoEthnic wrote...

morley37 wrote...

Kal'reegar: Does anyone not see him as a squad member in ME3, especially if the plot has Tali off doing something else? Easy to introduce him in a DLC, would dovetail beautifully with the Dying Sun possibility.

Why do people forget that Kal'Reegar can die in the game? Seriously!

dammit. I forgot. Good point. He'll get a wrex cameo though I bet.

Ok..... so why does the fact that you can kill him rule him out completely, surely Bioware would like to put in some content for people who played the game in a certain way, like Kal'Reegar could be a secret unlockable character for those who played the previous games and saved him, i mean maybe not as a fully blown speaking character but i could see them making him a secret unlockable character who cant speak fully like Kasumi and Zaeed, just saying its not impossible.