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Captain Proton wrote...

I don't think that there is going to be any new DLC-s... I have spoken with the EA representative on the Budapest Game Show, and he said, that the DLCs weren't very successful (a lot of people did not buy them).

I hardly believe this is the case. 2 weeks ago, LotSB was still in the "Top 5 Hot Games" list at IGN.

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Da_Lion_Man wrote...

You spoke to him. Did you like him? Or was he a hateful person?


No, he wasn't. He was quite friendly, informative and helpful. I don't think that he lied to me.

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I have to say, a DLC about Wrex, the Rachni, or Balak, while tying up loose ends, would be incredibly bad to release in that format. Wrex? He can die. The Rachni? You choose whether or not they live. Balak? You can shoot him.

It would tie up loose ends, but I really doubt that Bioware would make an Overlord-scale DLC for something that the player might not even be able to use. I'm no game developer, but that sounds like a bad idea to me. Build it into Mass Effect 3, sure. But making an entire DLC that is unplayable for someone who didn't play Mass Effect 1 or killed the characters in question?

Sure, the Balak and Wrex missions would be convertable; change them a bit, have Urdnot Wreav and some extremist replacement for Balak. But the Rachni? Unless they made it into a mission along the lines of "The Blue Suns want something from this planet: go kill them and find out what", it wouldn't work.

Actually, I've managed to convince myself now. Generic Enemy Forces are attacking somewhere. If you killed the Queen or didn't play ME1, it's some sort of artifact. If you saved the Queen, it's their home. You save them, and get to talk to the Queen again. Or, y'know, maybe get the choice to kill the Queen if you're feeling Renegade.

Okay, I've convinced myself. Forget my opening paragraphs. It works perfectly.

Edit: A Kaidan/Ashley storyline would fit nicely with LotSB. I don't really mind what they make....although if it featured this music, I would die:


Credit goes to Wall Of Sound, obviously, who made that song for a Mass Effect 1 DLC that was never released.

Edit Edit: In terms of weapon and armour DLC, if they had to make another one, I'd like a 'Spectre weaponry' DLC that gives you several new Spectre-grade weapons. Or something that lets a Soldier class take every extra weapon on the Collector Ship (Seriously, Shep, why would you NOT do that?).

Edit Edit Edit: Last one, I swear. An interview with Emily Wong would be great. You do have the option of promising her one all the way back in ME1, and it'd be nice to talk to a reporter who isn't obsessed with getting punched in the face.

Modifié par daxmeister, 20 novembre 2010 - 08:22 .


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Actually, a Tuchanka-Krogan-Wrex DLC would be cool. Wrex does not have to play a large role in it, maybe the mission could be acquired from him.



According to the plot, I have no ideas. Salarian extremist are trying to sterilize krogans with a new genophage? Battle against the one of the Urdnot's rival clans? I really don't know, I just thinking loudly.



But I'm certain in one thing: driving on Tuchanka's surfice, through the ruined cities in a tomkah. That would be awsome.

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A rival clan of the Urdnot try to take the control of the Krogans... you have to save Wrex or you go anyway to gain the trusth of Wreav. In both chases the Dlc would allow you to make a solid alliance with Krogans. Not so complicated.

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At the moment what intrigues me more is what Bioware's next BIG announcement will be on Dec. 11, although more DLC is well overdue in its own right..

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Captain Proton wrote...

Da_Lion_Man wrote...

You spoke to him. Did you like him? Or was he a hateful person?


No, he wasn't. He was quite friendly, informative and helpful. I don't think that he lied to me.


this may actually be true, despite what Bioware promished, by now EA decides about the fate of DLC, so it could be there won't be any new ones

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Like Raiden said, I'm more interesting in Bioware's December 11th announcement. I also just want ME3, not add-on content.

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All I want is ME3. The DLCs have all been excellent, but I just want ME3 now =(



Bioware, put ALL your efforts into it!



=)

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Captain Proton wrote...

I don't think that there is going to be any new DLC-s... I have spoken with the EA representative on the Budapest Game Show, and he said, that the DLCs weren't very successful (a lot of people did not buy them).


Bull ****.....Even Bioware said that their DLCs have been very sucesfull.They are already planning to release new appearance pack.This is a bag of crap.Stop lying to ppl......:huh:

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I hope not. I wanna see number one as part of ME3 ... it's a too much important plot node to be resolved in just a 2 hours-long mission, even if it's made as good as LotSB. Also resolving the Quarian\\\\Geth situation may be left us orphans of Tali and Legion. And NO, I don't wanna that :P


I agree buddy,
Quarians, geth, rachni, krogan are all non-council right? well who never listens like everything is ok & there's no such thing as reapers? easy to see that whoever you make your ally throughout the first 2 games will help in 3.
ME3 will definatley have some sort of twist, look at the collectors...ohhhh shock!!

DLC wise, I got the subtle hint of what they were getting at with Overlord. very clever.

But like I said in an earlier post ME3 will be about Reapers

Reapers are a self aware warships from darkspace, but who built them? who put their souls into the machines?? did they put thier souls into machines or are they actually living... this is the question.. I'll cry if its the keepers lol DONT DO IT BIOWARE!!!

but back to what I would like to see in DLC:

-Something with as much action as LOTSB
-Something out of the blue like overlord (story-wise)
so I would say I'm happily pleased if its at the same standard as those first 2
I did read before that someone suggested a DLC involving Virmire, Ilos, Noveria or feros....this i think is a good idea, but not back tracking stories something new which happens to lead you there.

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Alienmorph wrote...
Reapers are a self aware warships from darkspace, but who built them? who put their souls into the machines?? did they put thier souls into machines or are they actually living...


I think JJ Abrams has cracked it tbh. Well apparently this theory was thought up by him.

http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/ae329/SlidellofOlde/reaertheory.jpg

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Aleksandar Shepard wrote...

Captain Proton wrote...

I don't think that there is going to be any new DLC-s... I have spoken with the EA representative on the Budapest Game Show, and he said, that the DLCs weren't very successful (a lot of people did not buy them).


Bull ****.....Even Bioware said that their DLCs have been very sucesfull.They are already planning to release new appearance pack.This is a bag of crap.Stop lying to ppl......:huh:


I don't think he is lying, and success is relative, while Bioware may think DLC-s had good results EA might disagree with them.

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I wish eclipse armor or some full body armor, but with pretty cool helmet......:blush:

Modifié par Eagle94, 21 novembre 2010 - 12:21 .


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The Eclipse armor is not a problem, it can be made by modifing the Coalsced.ini. Personally, I don't like helmets. Only the N7 helmet and the visor are good, the others make Shepard ugly.

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DLC about the Urdnot clan would be fun, it could tie in with Grunt being allowed into Urdnot, and allied clans demanding that he be excomunicated from the clan. Maybe go to a border of Tuchanka to shoot some ugly lizards.



Also show female clan?

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wookieeassassin wrote...

DLC is too expensive for what it contains. Overlord and The Shadow Broker were the only ones that came close to being worth $10 a piece. Normally $10 wouldn't be much, but for a game that is 60-70 hours out of the box if you do everything and cost $50-60 when it came out a 1-2 hour DLC for $10 seems a little high. If it were a shooter or some other game that is typically only 8-10 hours long, then $10 for a 1-2 mission would be substantial. Considering I waited until a month ago when the game was $20 brand new at a local store that means the Shadow Broker, with its 2 hours of content, cost half of what I paid for the whole 65 hour game. I may have not even played it if I had gotten the game earlier. Since I got the game later though I bought all the DLC because I wanted to do it on my first playthrough. If I had already finished the game and the DLC came out a few months later I would have probably moved on to another game by then.

Here's the other thing though: Mass Effect 2 is great and everything, but once I've done everything in the main game and have my 74 hour game save I don't really want to be strung along with extra missions, especially when I could spend my money on other games or, if I was really dedicated, save it for ME3. After you've beaten a game it isn't nearly as entertaining anymore. I'd rather they have the people working on DLC help out with ME3 so we don't have to wait any longer for it. I've read that only about 5% of the gaming population actually gets DLC (paid I believe). That may be statistic for console gamers, but regardless, that says something. I feel that once a lot of people play a game quite a bit and/or finish it they just get tired of it in general and move on to the next thing.

I've also heard from places that the story between ME2 and ME3 will be bridged via DLC? If true, I don't care much for that at all. We shouldn't have to be nickel and dimed all the way to ME3 release in order to know some parts of what is going on. I guess if its stuff that is largely inconsequential I'd be ok though.


Totally agreed, DLC is terrible worth for the money. But that's the whole point! Otherwise we wouldn't have DLC and would still be 'stuck' (I'd rather) with expansion packs which are way more worth it with a lot more content and a real satisfying, complete package, rather than too short tidbits which feel poorly implemented and out of place. We still have DLC because people still buy em and publishers make a lot of money out of them. Like you said, a DLC package is a big fraction of the original game price for a much, much smaller fraction of gameplay, a couple of months later and DLC can cost you a LOT more than the game itself, some other months, and same thing, except you get all DLC. This is utterly ridiculous and people don't even realize it, that's why I'm waiting for a platinum edition to get DLC, otherwise ME2 would cost me WELL over ONE HUNDRED BUCKS.

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AxeFace, is there any indication that that Reaper theory came from J.J. Abrams? It seems very thought out.

Now that I've read that I would be pissed if that was actually what you found out in ME3 verbatim.

Bioware will see that and realize that J.J. Abrams is the only one who can make sense of what happened in ME2 and will use that time line. Watch and see ;)

I wonder who wrote the original Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2... In my opinion, if they wanted to make it a truly epic sci-fi story they'd have recruited someone like J.J. Abrams or someone like the people from the list here: http://www.popcrunch...rs-of-all-time/

The story isn't terrible, but it still has the feeling of a "video game story" IMO.

Modifié par wookieeassassin, 21 novembre 2010 - 06:11 .


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Next DLC: Geth Armor and Weapons Pack (Geth Pulse Sniper Rifle, Geth Plasma Pistol and Geth Plasma Cannon (heavy weapon)).

Here is the link: http://social.bioware.com/group/3247/
Link to my group.

Modifié par LordUzur, 21 novembre 2010 - 09:48 .


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personally, id love to see a dlc mission pack that involves a volus planet. id intrigued to see what their planets would look like. id also like another alternate suit pack for your squadmates.

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Pepper4 wrote...

Captain Proton wrote...

I don't think that there is going to be any new DLC-s... I have spoken with the EA representative on the Budapest Game Show, and he said, that the DLCs weren't very successful (a lot of people did not buy them).

I hardly believe this is the case. 2 weeks ago, LotSB was still in the "Top 5 Hot Games" list at IGN.


So we're supposed to just take your word, that you spoke with an EA representative who told you that they weren't successful? Yeah... With all of the fans, not just on this site either, screaming for more DLC, it's obviously not successful. :lol: 

Bioware even said themselves that LoTSB was the beginning of the bridging content. Beginning, not the end of the DLC's. So either you're lying, or the guy you talked to has no idea what he's talking about. 

-Polite

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Only thing I really want as a DLC is wrapping up loose ends with Ashley/Kaiden after the meeting on Horizon. The dialogue felt anti-climatic and really made it felt like you were cheated if you romanced one of them which I did because Liara was simply too boring and her interest in you was completely out of the blue (no pun intended). The Tuchanka/Rachni/Balak ideas are pretty good but I feel that 1. everyone did different things to those three and to those that did the opposite, that seems like a waste of money to them and they'll feel cheated and 2. I feel that it would make more sense if some of those would be covered in ME3 rather than a DLC.



Also, would be cool if there was a romance pack for the ME2 love interests. I might get shot for this but all of them didn't really feel like it was worth cheating on whoever was your love interest in ME.

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I'm not expecting to hear anything about DLC till January, with a view to it being out maybe in February or March at the soonest.

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Personally I wouldn't mind it if they went a step beyond the "ordinary" DLC and made a standalone-ish expansion, but not necessarily like what Awakening was to Dragon Age (although I wouldn't mind). I think an XBLA-format game, like Dead Rising 2: Case Zero, (basically a big prologue-demo), would be the perfect way to bridge ME2 to ME3.

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PoliteAssasin wrote...

Pepper4 wrote...

Captain Proton wrote...

I don't think that there is going to be any new DLC-s... I have spoken with the EA representative on the Budapest Game Show, and he said, that the DLCs weren't very successful (a lot of people did not buy them).

I hardly believe this is the case. 2 weeks ago, LotSB was still in the "Top 5 Hot Games" list at IGN.


So we're supposed to just take your word, that you spoke with an EA representative who told you that they weren't successful? Yeah... With all of the fans, not just on this site either, screaming for more DLC, it's obviously not successful. :lol: 

Bioware even said themselves that LoTSB was the beginning of the bridging content. Beginning, not the end of the DLC's. So either you're lying, or the guy you talked to has no idea what he's talking about. 

-Polite


I see where you're coming from, but to be fair to the guy, I suppose we should give him the benefit of the doubt. The guy he talked to was probably wrong, but still. 

Also, I think we have to remember that we were promised countless DLC's for ME 1 and got a grand total of (wait for it......) 2. 

I have been following games for years and I can't tell you how many promises I've seen broken. It's just part of the business, after all. Taking anything any developer says (no matter how trusted) to the bank is as bad an idea as eating an entire box of raisin bran in one sitting. 

At first you'll be like, "Awesome, this stuff rocks!!!!" 

But later you'll just be sitting down for a long time, your head in your hands, and wondering when it will finally end. 

 

Modifié par Fat Headed Wolf, 22 novembre 2010 - 06:03 .