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whats the point of romance in DA2 if it does'nt effect Thedas


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#176
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Some Geth wrote...

Kalypto wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...

so nerds can have a self of belonging and self esteem


This

No :innocent:.


Yes:devil:

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Clover Rider

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Kalypto wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

Kalypto wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...

so nerds can have a self of belonging and self esteem


This

No :innocent:.


Yes:devil:

No...<_<

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Romance impacts your individual characters greatly. Just because the large picture is about the world, does not mean the smaller picture should be ignored entirely.

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The point of romances in DA2 is to be entertaining, just like the rest of the game. Lots of people enjoy them, therefore they are included.

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Anarya wrote...

The point of romances in DA2 is to be entertaining, just like the rest of the game. Lots of people enjoy them, therefore they are included.

Finally.

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It's a difficult concept to grasp, I know.

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Anarya wrote...

It's a difficult concept to grasp, I know.

Just like Digimon :wizard:.

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To OP: because BW's RPG's are about a compelling story and very engaging character progression. And I'm not talking about skillpoints, but personality. A very real part of human nature is their social nature, relationships (both friendships and romance), and including these in a game have a powerful impact in making players feel connected and immersed in the world and the protagonist.

While people prefer different things, the protagonist in Fallout 3 feels notably different because that character is more like your own avatar playing around in a sandbox, but has a carboard-deep personality because of really having no relationships of any kind. Some prefer that freedom, others do not. BW is of course aiming for as broad an audience as it can, but it clearly focuses more on those who prefer more story and depth, at the cost of some of that sandbox-game freedom.

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Blasto the jelly wrote...

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"The world gets lonely too quickly if there's no one to share it with."

We're telling our character's story through playing the game, and, for me at least, romance is one of the many ingredients that goes into making an epic story.

How would the Zevran or leliena romance change The overall story of DAO?


It doesnt change the story, it adds to the story and your character. It would be boring without it.

Blasto, are you stupid?

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KLUME777 wrote...

Blasto, are you stupid?


If he was, would he know it? Anyway, the stupidity or non-stupidity of someone's posts speak for themselves. You don't need to call attention to such things.

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Just to waste Resources and Time on Romances, lowering the main Contents of the Game and attract (dumb) people who cant even play at high Difficulties to play the Game for its Romances!

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Adriano87 wrote...

Just to waste Resources and Time on Romances, lowering the main Contents of the Game and attract (dumb) people who cant even play at high Difficulties to play the Game for its Romances!


Are you saying that seriously? Seriously? A BioWare game, a company known for story telling, characters, plot, and romance? Those guys? BioWare is famous for its story, not combat.

If I really believed this and were a vicious person, I would say high difficulty settings are there to attract plebes who can't grasp deep characters or interactions.

Modifié par Saibh, 09 septembre 2010 - 08:54 .


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Saibh wrote...

Adriano87 wrote...

Just to waste Resources and Time on Romances, lowering the main Contents of the Game and attract (dumb) people who cant even play at high Difficulties to play the Game for its Romances!


Are you saying that seriously? Seriously? A BioWare game, a company known for story telling, characters, plot, and romance? Those guys? BioWare is famous for its story, not combat.

If I really believed this and were a vicious person, I would say high difficulty settings are there to attract plebes who can't grasp deep characters or interactions.

NeverWinter Nights, Knights of the old Republic and Baldurs Gate Games have very simple Romance Systems and these are the famous games of Bioware.

Modifié par Adriano87, 09 septembre 2010 - 08:57 .


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Adriano87 wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Adriano87 wrote...

Just to waste Resources and Time on Romances, lowering the main Contents of the Game and attract (dumb) people who cant even play at high Difficulties to play the Game for its Romances!


Are you saying that seriously? Seriously? A BioWare game, a company known for story telling, characters, plot, and romance? Those guys? BioWare is famous for its story, not combat.

If I really believed this and were a vicious person, I would say high difficulty settings are there to attract plebes who can't grasp deep characters or interactions.

NeverWinter Nights, Knights of the old Republic and Baldurs Gate Games have very simple Romance Systems and these are the famous games of Bioware.


KotORs romance system is more complicated than MEs, and BGII's is way more complicated. NWN is to BioWare as Cars is to Pixar.

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Anarya wrote...

The point of romances in DA2 is to be entertaining, just like the rest of the game. Lots of people enjoy them, therefore they are included.

Well said.
Also, we need somone at our side once we've risen to power, do we not? ^_^

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Romance in stories help add depth and believability, it's a basic requirement for people, that's why they're in so many stories.

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Adriano87 wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Adriano87 wrote...

Just to waste Resources and Time on Romances, lowering the main Contents of the Game and attract (dumb) people who cant even play at high Difficulties to play the Game for its Romances!


Are you saying that seriously? Seriously? A BioWare game, a company known for story telling, characters, plot, and romance? Those guys? BioWare is famous for its story, not combat.

If I really believed this and were a vicious person, I would say high difficulty settings are there to attract plebes who can't grasp deep characters or interactions.

NeverWinter Nights, Knights of the old Republic and Baldurs Gate Games have very simple Romance Systems and these are the famous games of Bioware.


KOTOR had a romance system, just no sex scene because its star wars. And Bioware are still most famously known for its story, characters, choices and yes, romance.

And I'd wager to say that nowadays, KOTOR, Mass Effect and Dragon Age are more famous than BG and NWN. Thats why on the back cover of dragon age, it says "From the creators of Mass Effect"

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KLUME777 wrote...

Blasto the jelly wrote...

wickedgoodreed wrote...

"The world gets lonely too quickly if there's no one to share it with."

We're telling our character's story through playing the game, and, for me at least, romance is one of the many ingredients that goes into making an epic story.

How would the Zevran or leliena romance change The overall story of DAO?


It doesnt change the story, it adds to the story and your character. It would be boring without it.

Blasto, are you stupid?

Well i am a jellyfish after allImage IPB

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Okay okay this is just a thread. i was thinking about this i dont have these morals i love bioware i love romances in bioware games sigh...GarrusImage IPB. anyway i created this thread to hear your thoughts about how would romance effect Thedas nothing else Thanks for comments even if your threatining meImage IPB 

Modifié par Blasto the jelly, 09 septembre 2010 - 01:48 .


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What's the point of a storyline in DA2?

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I think a family would really do a big thing for a series. It would add the chance to use it for spin offs or it could add a great emotional touch for an expansion or sequel where you actually get the potential child as an companion either for the father/mother or next main character. The character of the child could be based on the feats of their parents.

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DOYOURLABS wrote...

 For people like me, who have no hope for relationships in reality =]

relationships in rl life are overrated :huh:

and i think it adds a charm to a game

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SnakeHelah wrote...

What's the point of a storyline in DA2?

Storyline effects Thedas.Romance does'nt.

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Blasto the jelly wrote...

SnakeHelah wrote...

What's the point of a storyline in DA2?

Storyline effects Thedas.Romance does'nt.


Most of the world's great literature concerns events that don't affect the whole world.

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Blasto the jelly wrote...

If any of you recall one of the developers said The Dragon age games are about the world of thedas. so whats the point of having a romance if it does'nt mean anything or impact the world of Thedas (well maybe a Flemmeth Romance wouldImage IPB) are romances just put in a game  to make people happy. also could the developer who said that please tell me i forgot your name my badImage IPB. also we are playing hawkes rise to power and how that affects Thedas is unknown but how would a romance change or impact Thedas?


Just to throw out a few things on how romances have affected Thedas.  Does anyone who read The Stolen Throne, think Maric would have worked out as he did, if he hadn't been involved with Katriel, or maybe Logain being involved with Rowan?  How about the Warden and Morigan, or the Warden and Alister. How about Mafreth and Andraste, you don't even have to believe in the maker to understand that Mafreth's jeolousy had a huge impact on the whole Thedas setting. Every one of those had a very large impact on how the story of Fereldan or Thedas could turn out.  So OP I think your whole concept kinda went out the window.

Modifié par The Grey Ranger, 09 septembre 2010 - 03:48 .