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[Hathur]

Skyblade012 wrote...

Hathur wrote...

"Traitor" is not a negative connotation... it depends on context.

I.e. several of Hitler's officers tried to have him assassinated during WW2 to end the war... they were traitors... but only traitors to Hitler  ... to the rest of the world, they were heroes for trying.

"Traitor" cannot be used to gauge one's morality.

Not quite.  Most of the attempts weren't made to stop the war, just to stop Hitler.  Disagreements over how he ran the war, and his paranoia about his officers (which led him to execute many of them) were the primary causes.  The attempted assassins were fully in line with the initial views of the party, and the war itself.  The just felt that Hitler's tight grip on the country, coupled with his own meglomania, was leading it to a point where the war was unwinnable.

The reasons for their wanting to end the war weren't overly revelvant... his officers knew they were losing the war and they wanted to end it by killing Hitler and surrendering to the Allies (documents captured at end of the war confirmed this)... granted, they only wanted to surrender cus they were losing.. but the point remains that many Jews and Allied troops would have been spared had they succeeded.

Again, the point though is... "Traitor" does not connotate morality in any way whatsoever. One must look at the context or perspective.

Here in Toronto where I live, a group of young muslims were plotting to blow up buildings some 6+ years ago with explosives... one of the muslim young men however was a traitor - he called the RCMP and countless lives were saved. That young man was a traitor... but if I ever met him, I'd shake his hand, give him a hug and thank him from the bottom of my heart... again, one man's traitor... another man's hero.

Modifié par Hathur, 10 septembre 2010 - 08:05 .

[MaaZeus]

didymos1120 wrote...

MaaZeus wrote...

I reeeeally doubt that it would be a type. C'mon, GETH, A FRICKING MACHINE/COMPUTER DOING A TYPO? His system would crash this very second if such random errors would occur.

It's a deliberate bid to blend in amongst all the other crap spellers on the interextranet.  Or, Legion just noticed that people use "kewl" plays on meaning like that all the time in usernames to make themselves sound all wicked and stuff.

Huh, good point. Didnt think of that either.

[MaaZeus]

LPPrince wrote...

I just can't accept that as a typo.

That's not to say Legion can't make a mistake. He already did.

Sovereign never spoke to us on Ilos, so the geth got their info a little screwy.

Making a computing mistake and having false information are two different things. In digital world, an accidental typo, unless your system is very unstable, is impossible from what I know. And such instability would lead to crashing all the time. Simply put, a working calculator will never count 2+2=5, EVER.

[Zulu_DFA]

Burdokva wrote...

Wild speculation just for the fun of it, but what if he lied about the heretic/orthodox Geth, in the sence that the latter are a majority? What if he's a mobile platform that holds the majority of the Geth programs that favor peace and cooperation, with several more caches spread across the Milky Way, while the heretic Geth are the vast majority of programs and platforms? And that by rewriting or destroying the central heretic station he can redeem his people, either brainwashing them to the "truth", or destroying most of them in a single blow?

Highly unlikely, but as I said, I'm speculating just for the fun of it. Would be a nice twist if Legion is the sole remaining good Geth...

I've had occurences of similar thoughts. I also thoght that maybe Legion's friendliness was sort of malfunction due to having been shot.

But EDI actually confirms Legion's story, when you ask him to access the Geth data archives and Legion replays the record of a Geth asking about soul.

[Hoki]

If you pressure legion into explaining why he had your armor strapped to his body he will avoid the question with BS. Keep calling him out and there is a long dramatic pause, followed by ".. no data available."



This plus his gamer tag is proof that he is really a shepard fanboi.

[Anchor654]

I saw Legion's screenname as a subtle hint from Bioware that Legion may be an actual traitor in ME3

[StarcloudSWG]

I saw it as a nod to the "unique name filter" check that almost all online games have.



Please choose a user name:

"Infiltrator" - Name not available.

"InfiltratorN7" - Name not available.

"Infiltrat0rN7" - Name not available.



And so on.

[mineralica]

Typo? Then something is wrong with my keyboard. Both "a" and "t" are rather far from "i", as for me.

Legion as an actual traitor for ME3? Too obvious - not so many people trust him; also many understands risc of reorigramming all Geth into Heretics by Reapers. It'd be more fun if someone less expected became a traitor. Say, Tali and Garrus simultaneously (just for fun speculations, O'k?)

[Zaxares]

I'm with Starcloud. Legion probably tried all other simpler, grammatically correct versions of his name but they were all already taken.



Although, you'd be surprised he didn't just pick a name like Infiltrator00013289 and just keep attempting iterative versions until one finally got through.

[Cra5y Pineapple]

Legion has no morality. He has simply logic.

[AdmiralCheez]

What I find more interesting is why Legion even plays videogames in the first place. Is he bored? Does he want to learn more about organics? Or was it, as I suspect it was, for the lulz?

[Sajuro]

LPPrince wrote...

Legion's awesome. I'm just wondering why he'd spell Infiltrator like that.

Bioware's being sneaky sneaky.....

Could it be that infiltratorN7 was already taken?

[Christmas Ape]

StarcloudSWG wrote...

I saw it as a nod to the "unique name filter" check that almost all online games have.

Please choose a user name:
"Infiltrator" - Name not available.
"InfiltratorN7" - Name not available.
"Infiltrat0rN7" - Name not available.

And so on.

Aaaaand beat me to it.

[Vikjunk]

Even if Legion is a “traitor” it’s never said who he is a traitor to. There is the possibility that he considered himself a traitor to his people. And I’m not talking about the possibility that he is lying about the schism.



It’s possible that Legion was the platform that found out about the Reaper-virus intended to change the main group of Geth into Reaper servants and the rest of the Geth didn’t believe Legion’s evidence. And with them being isolationist focused on working towards building their future they weren’t willing to let Legion to try and stop the Heretics.



So Legion after hearing about Shepard disobeying orders and stealing the Normandy to go to Illos to save everyone. Legion could have decided to pull a Shepard and save his people even if they didn’t believe him or allow him to do so.



There are countless things it could be it could be. And as other have shown there are hints that Legion does feel bad about so thing that other Geth have done and tried to repair some of the damage that happened to Eden Prime by donating to it. So I doubt that Legion is a traitor to Shepard at the very least unless it‘s only that he is a spy to warn if the organics are going to blame the other Geth for the Heretics actions.

[Sursion]

He is trying to kill the heretics. On paper, it would appear he is a traitor to the geth.

[Googlesaurus]

Sursion wrote...

He is trying to kill the heretics. On paper, it would appear he is a traitor to the geth.

Explain?

[pacer90]

He also donated to the Eden Prime recovery fund.