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A Male Qunari/Tal'Vashoth Romance/Friendship? *Now w/ Banners&Fanart*


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WolfShapedBullet

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As far as we know we won't see any Female Qunari in game, thus no female qunari romance. Although some believe that David Gaider was technically not lying, by dismissing a Female Qunari but not nescessarily a female Tal'Vashoth.

Now most of the gamers thus far have been pining over the idea of a Female Qunari romance option, but what of the Male Qunari?
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Anyone like the idea of that romance? Granted the female option would be less hard (no pun intended) to accept, what with size differences and the whole social working of the Qunari people. I could see it being easier to write a female qunari/tal'vashoth companion that was either die-hard Qun-follower and stretches the rules a bit as she grows a bit warmer to Hawke OR the tal'vashoth, which I think would be a bit bland consider there'd only be a fight for her heart and growth on her part would be minimal in comparsion to a Qunari bending a bit to get closer.

"Qunari don't have "family units". They don't marry or choose partners. Qunari do not even know to whom they are related. A Qunari's "family" are his or her coworkers.Qunari don't generally associate mating with love. They feel love. They have friends. They form emotional bonds with one another. They just don't sleep with each other to express it. And if they do, they get re-educated by the Ben-Hassrath."

But that being said, I don't want it too be easier to write that romance! Many in the fanbase wished that the FemWarden could have romanced the Sten. Hell even Morrigan teased that she was interested! I think that it could be a bit more dynamic in terms of using a Qunari/Tal'vashoth male. guys can get their quasi Sten bromance and the ladies&guys who play Lady Hawke can get their stoic romance option. It would be interesting to write I think, especially with Qunari having a sort of 'sexist' view of women, and the male companion, Qunari or Tal'Vashoth, gets intrigued and more by Lady Hawke.

I personally would like to see a male Qunari/Tal'Vashoth, even though it appears that they will be a main enemy in DA2. Making the Qunari male romanceable would be a plus, considering the few that wanted one and the many that enjoyed Sten/Morrigan banter.

"How strong are human teeth?"-Sten "How strong are my teeth?!"-Morrigan

Those male and female gamers alike who crave a leading force and strong personality other than Hawke may also see the appeal for a Qunari companion, if they aren't interested in a relationship. DAO showed us cutscenes of other character dialogue that didn't directly effect our Warden until later on in game, but how else will we learn more of the Qunari people without a Qunari/Tal"Vashoth companion? More codex entries?

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Modifié par Oblivionous, 16 septembre 2010 - 01:07 .


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Mary Kirby

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How does a Tal'Vashoth choose its name after leaving the Qun?


Arbitrarily. Could be a word he likes the sound of. Could be something he thinks is descriptive. Some of them don't choose anything at all.

What do the Qunari people call the children that get passed off to the Tamassrans?


I don't understand this question. The Qunari word for child is imekari. They call them that. Do you want to know how the Tamassrans distinguish between them? The Tamassrans name them.

What is an example of a Qunari's true name, and not their job title?


Look, I know you guys are fixated on the name thing because you didn't get to find out what Sten's was, but it's really not an improvement to know. It would translate to something like "Male born in Seheron to a fifteenth-generation Ben-Hassrath female from Seheron and a seventieth-generation soldier male from Qunadar with no horns and purple eyes, second toe longer than the first, and a thirty percent chance of inheriting a heart defect."

I keep telling you, they don't use them. And there's a damned good reason.

Will we see a Tal'Vashoth/Qunari male companion/love interest? Why and why not? (If you feel gracious enough to answer 'why'.)


You'll never see a Qunari romance because they don't have romance. Could you see a Tal'Vashoth romance? Who knows? Considering that they come from a culture that hasn't had romance in hundreds of years, what are the chances?

Are the Tal'Vashoth who are fighting against the Qun a relatively organized group?


The Tal'Vashoth aren't a group. They're individuals who abandon the Qun and become violent. Sometimes they band together. Sometimes they don't. They don't really have goals. They're not a resistance. They're largely anarchists and terrorists.

When a Qunari abandons the Qun he or she becomes Vashoth. Eventually, they have to leave Qunari society because there's no way to really hide when all your neighbors are bees in the hive or cogs in the machine, sooner or later, someone will notice you're not doing your part for the group. Stick around and get discovered, and you get re-educated by the Ben-Hassrath. Or you leave. So they go.

Violent ones become Tal'Vashoth. Which is mostly the ones who were former soldiers, because they have no other useful skills. Many of them never fight the Qunari, they just become mercenaries because what the heck else are they supposed to do? When they actively strike at the Qunari, they usually just murder the most defenseless civilians they can find, because they don't have numbers, officers, goals, equipment, or organization that would make them a match for the antaam.

Mages are tolerated by other Tal'Vashoth, but they're not really popular. Without anyone to train them, how likely do you think it really is that Vashoth mages live to old age without becoming abominations or accidentally murdering people?

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Mary Kirby

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Lord Gremlin wrote...

I can't honestly see a connection here. They no longer follow the Qun, a good reason to try out everything forbidden.

Of course, the right question here is - do their species have natural psychological connection between love/romantic feelings and sex? They probably do, they're just taught otherwise by the Qun.

A huge opportunity to learn from Hawke here. Learn the hard way, with iron pry bars, leather thongs, whips and other equipment... Probably butter and nug fat will be involved... Fake cat ears... An additional dwarf..


Do rebellious teenagers take up phrenology and foot-binding in the real world? Just because your culture doesn't have something doesn't make it enticing. And why would they naturally want to gravitate away from, "I have guilt-free sex with multiple partners at regular intervals for my entire adult life" to "I'm going to pine and then, if I'm lucky, just have sex with that one guy"? Not a trade up, really.

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Mary Kirby

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Ineffable Igor wrote...

So, wait, there's absolutely no connection whatsoever between love and sex for them?  Possible scenario here: let's say that Qunari A has developed a very close emotional bond with Qunari B.  They love each other AND they feel strong sexual desire for one another. 

If they were to have sex, would that act have everything to do with the sexual desire and nothing to do with how they feel about each other?  Would their brains not make that connection because of how they've been conditioned by Qunari social practices?


Qunari are told who to have sex with. It would have nothing to do with either desire or affection.

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Mary Kirby

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Ineffable Igor wrote...

So, no one ever breaks the rules and has sex with who they want because of those factors?  Obviously they'd be re-educated if they did, but it does happen every now and then, right?


"Because I want to" is almost never a reason for Qunari to do anything. They're a people who zealously believe that every single thing they do in life is for the benefit of their society as a whole. They view selfishness as the worst possible quality a person can possess.

Individuals fail occasionally. But it's not generally fear of the Ben-hassrath that keeps them in line. They do it on their own because otherwise they can't live with themselves.