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[Tooneyman]

David Gaider wrote...

Still English accents for the most part, though we do still use American accents (as in the midwest Amercian accent) for the City Elves and Dwarves and French accents for the Orlesians. We're using a different accent for the Dalish now (why? because we want to) but otherwise nothing drastic.

 
So basically City elves and Dwarves are americans. I see Bioware thinks us to be outside of the realm of high rankers so basically HAwkes' british. Oh, your so Culturists Bioware you evil game creator you. Now we can see how you really think.  (Starts running before they get the tar and feathers.)

[AndrahilAdrian]

David Gaider wrote...

Still English accents for the most part, though we do still use American accents (as in the midwest Amercian accent) for the City Elves and Dwarves and French accents for the Orlesians. We're using a different accent for the Dalish now (why? because we want to) but otherwise nothing drastic.

The more accents the merrier as far as I'm concerned. It adds to the realism and atmosphere.

[ErichHartmann]

I wish each race would speak a foreign language such as Gaelic for Dalish Elves.  Reading subtitles builds character.   Yes, I know it would had "unnecessary" work to development but still.

[Yana Montana]

Smexy mild Russian accent is a dream to come true!

[Heretical Sound]

Saibh wrote...

No. I'm going to chase you and hound you and there is no escape from my amazing American logic. I'll also beat on you with a shovel, for funsies.

People generalize things, I will too! Most foreigners don't make the distinction between Southern American sayings or East Coast/West Coast (which is to say, for most people, NYC and LA), and so on.

You will get the same damn treatment. It's your punishment for jealously holding on to the UK and refusing to give up the Vir--

Er.

What? Heh-heh.

I...have...no ulterior motives...what is that you speak of?

Nothing can stop the smooze ... American logic. Doesn't have the same ring oh well.
A shovel? Why? How about an inflatable sword or a foam hammer. Same effect but without the blood. After all I wouldn't want you to have clean out the bloodstains. No I'm too polite for that.:innocent:

Aha a valid point you make however slight difference. Within England you have loads of accents in which case English refers to all of them.  However for simplicity sake English is sufficient. Same with American, Australian, South African etc. I wouldn't expect a foreigner to be able to recognise a West Country accent or a Yorkshire accent. And hopefully you don't expect me to recognise the numerous accents that exist in each of the anglophone countries. However Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland with their respective accents are distinctive enough and have their own languages. It'd be like me saying a Canadian or Mexican has a North American accent. Technically correct but a bit silly:wizard:.

[Tooneyman]

As long as the qunari aren't sounding mideastern I won't have a problem with the way they look it would just be silly and the look part I'm talking about the Qunari. Image Sten with an Indian accent. or maybe that would be pure genius?..

Modifié par Tooneyman, 09 septembre 2010 - 11:55 .

[marquiseondore]

David Gaider wrote...

Shadow_broker wrote...
Can you specify what accent the dalish now use?

Welsh, primarily.

Approve +50

Can you say which region. 

[Heretical Sound]

jollyorigins wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Shadow_broker wrote...
Can you specify what accent the dalish now use?

Welsh, primarily.

welsh dalish? David, you sir, are a genius

Welsh? This has made my night ... day? ... morning? can't tell anymore. Do they refer to people as boyo?
Must have Dalish companion. Pretty please ?

Actually I have never heard a Welshperson use boyo but its a lovely word. Stereotyping be damned.

Modifié par Heretical Sound, 09 septembre 2010 - 11:58 .

[Saibh]

Heretical Sound wrote...

Nothing can stop the smooze ... American logic. Doesn't have the same ring oh well.
A shovel? Why? How about an inflatable sword or a foam hammer. Same effect but without the blood. After all I wouldn't want you to have clean out the bloodstains. No I'm too polite for that.:innocent:

Aha a valid point you make however slight difference. Within England you have loads of accents in which case English refers to all of them.  However for simplicity sake English is sufficient. Same with American, Australian, South African etc. I wouldn't expect a foreigner to be able to recognise a West Country accent or a Yorkshire accent. And hopefully you don't expect me to recognise the numerous accents that exist in each of the anglophone countries. However Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland with their respective accents are distinctive enough and have their own languages. It'd be like me saying a Canadian or Mexican has a North American accent. Technically correct but a bit silly:wizard:.

Screw you and give us the northern Virgin Islands!

A-hem.

[Heretical Sound]

Saibh wrote...


Screw you and give us the northern Virgin Islands!

A-hem.

Never! We are going to use those islands for ... for ... erm ... *cough* ... a themepark! Yes a themepark with slides and stuff. Pink slides. With yellow stripes.

And green stars.

[Maconbar]

David Gaider wrote...

Shadow_broker wrote...
Can you specify what accent the dalish now use?

Welsh, primarily.

What a cliche. (j/k)

[Faz432]

David Gaider wrote...

Shadow_broker wrote...
Can you specify what accent the dalish now use?

Welsh, primarily.

This, this is awesome news butt!


O and I totally called it

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/141/index/4688078/1#4688106

Modifié par Faz432, 10 septembre 2010 - 12:05 .

[David Gaider]

Heretical Sound wrote...
Aha a valid point you make however slight difference. Within England you have loads of accents in which case English refers to all of them.  However for simplicity sake English is sufficient. Same with American, Australian, South African etc. I wouldn't expect a foreigner to be able to recognise a West Country accent or a Yorkshire accent. And hopefully you don't expect me to recognise the numerous accents that exist in each of the anglophone countries. However Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland with their respective accents are distinctive enough and have their own languages. It'd be like me saying a Canadian or Mexican has a North American accent. Technically correct but a bit silly:wizard:.

There are indeed many English accents. For voiceover purposes we use what is called RP (Received Pronunciation) unless we are going for a specific sound like cockney or West Country. RP's the easiest because this is what most British actors are trained to use, though most of them can switch between several dialects at will.

For American accents, the midwest accent is used as a standard simply because it's viewed by North Americans as being "accent-less"-- there's no regional association as it is in the American South, New England and other places. It's the American equivalent of RP.

Going for other accents can be difficult, primarily because we only get these differences in English recording (they don't get Polish VO actors doing Orlesian characters to speak with a French accent in the Polish localization, for instance) and thus if we want authentic accents we have to go to non-native speakers. This can sometimes affect the acting (as often happens when someone needs to focus on an accent they don't do naturally), and has limited value with North American audiences as many people seem to think accents sound "fake" even when they're completely authentic. Why, I don't know. Personally I would have gone for a different accent with the dwarves (initially we wanted German) but it didn't work for the reasons I describe, not to mention that mainland European voiceover actors are a bit less numerous and thus much more expensive to use.

But there you have it in a nutshell.

[namedforthemoon]

David Gaider wrote...

Shadow_broker wrote...
Can you specify what accent the dalish now use?

Welsh, primarily.

Sweet!! Thank you for letting us know.

[Maverick827]

Why would the estranged Dalish have an accent closer to "Ferelden" than the city Elves who live with humans?

[Lord Gremlin]

Yana Montana wrote...

Smexy mild Russian accent is a dream to come true!

I'm Russian so I approve +50. Maybe in future games?

P.S. No, I don't have that accent. People mistake me for an Italian usually.

[Xewaka]

ErichHartmann wrote...

I wish each race would speak a foreign language such as Gaelic for Dalish Elves.  Reading subtitles builds character.   Yes, I know it would had "unnecessary" work to development but still.

Subtitles are a must for bioware games in Spain. I think the last they voiced in Spanish was Icewind Dale 2.
No biggie though, most spanish voice actors sound terrible in videogames.

Modifié par Xewaka, 10 septembre 2010 - 12:06 .

[Oblivious]

 No Spanish or Italian accents? Zevran used such a terrible accent I didn't realize which Romantic dialect it was supposed to be. If the pirate girl starts speaking with a Spanish or Italian accent then I might just have to push fetish for Ms. Black's voice side.

[Ulicus]

I don't understand why elves raised in human cities wouldn't have similiar accents to the humans. Is it a case of them deliberately affecting something different to distinguish themselves?

Not that it really matters. None of them are "actually" speaking English, I'd assume.

Though, as Maverick says, it's kind of odd that the dalish are the ones with the accent rather than the elves raised amongst a human culture... not that I have a problem with Welsh dalish as a general rule.

Heretical Sound wrote...

[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/crying.png[/smilie] English please ... everytime someone says British, my stiff upper lip trembles. Won't somebody please think of the lip? [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/crying.png[/smilie]

Bah. Any Englishman who doesn't consider himself equally British isn't a true Englishman, I say. The anti-being called-British thing only works for the Scots and the Welsh.

Modifié par Ulicus, 10 septembre 2010 - 12:12 .

[Akolonus]

Sweet Welsh!



Hopefully this will inspire Jimbo Looney to do Dragon Age: Rhondda. And then possibly Taff Effect.

[Faz432]

Welsh Elves



Welves!!

[Lord Gremlin]

David Gaider wrote...
This can sometimes affect the acting (as often happens when someone needs to focus on an accent they don't do naturally), and has limited value with North American audiences as many people seem to think accents sound "fake" even when they're completely authentic. Why, I don't know. 
But there you have it in a nutshell.

Wait... So how you ensure accents are authentic? Because yes, they often sound fake in videogames, including DAO. Even people who's first language is not English feel that.

[David Gaider]

Oblivious wrote...
 No Spanish or Italian accents?

Antivans still use Spanish accents.

Lord Gremlin wrote...
Wait... So how you ensure accents are authentic?

We ensure the accents are authentic by having people do the voice acting who actually possess those accents. Then they can focus on the acting and not the accent.

Because yes, they often sound fake in videogames, including DAO. Even people who's first language is not English feel that.

The vast majority of the accents in DAO are authentic. If someone assumes they are not, that's probably because they don't know what the hell they're talking about.

Modifié par David Gaider, 10 septembre 2010 - 12:13 .

[Heretical Sound]

David Gaider wrote...

There are indeed many English accents. For voiceover purposes we use what is called RP (Received Pronunciation) unless we are going for a specific sound like cockney or West Country. RP's the easiest because this is what most British actors are trained to use, though most of them can switch between several dialects at will.

For American accents, the midwest accent is used as a standard simply because it's viewed by North Americans as being "accent-less"-- there's no regional association as it is in the American South, New England and other places. It's the American equivalent of RP.

Going for other accents can be difficult, primarily because we only get these differences in English recording (they don't get Polish VO actors doing Orlesian characters to speak with a French accent in the Polish localization, for instance) and thus if we want authentic accents we have to go to non-native speakers. This can sometimes affect the acting (as often happens when someone needs to focus on an accent they don't do naturally), and has limited value with North American audiences as many people seem to think accents sound "fake" even when they're completely authentic. Why, I don't know. Personally I would have gone for a different accent with the dwarves (initially we wanted German) but it didn't work for the reasons I describe, not to mention that mainland European voiceover actors are a bit less numerous and thus much more expensive to use.

But there you have it in a nutshell.

And Received Pronunciation is the one used in news broadcasts correct? I take it you aren't going to use cockney simply because nobody would have a figgin what they're saying. Especially if they used the slang. Look at those Bristols, I'm going up the apples, Hawke fell on his aris etc.