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[moffjc01]

As anyone who has played ME1 and/or ME2 knows you have the option to romance other team members. This topic is not to discuss who you’re romanced or if you romance but the difference in the presentation of the cut scenes from ME1 and ME2 and what you would like in ME3. These are just my thoughts on this topic, in me1 and my multiple play through I did decide to engage other team members in romantic relations. The presentations of the cut scenes in me1, I thought, were excellent. I did not fide them offensive or pornographic, they fit well into the story and were presented vary artfully. I also enjoy the emotionally inter actions and the banter both before and after.

In ME2 I also romanced team member including the new DCL too, while it was nice to be able to romance or continue a romance the cut scenes  seemed  a bit more stiff (no pun intended) and not as artfully done. I know of and have read quite a few of articles about the over inflated controversy from ME1 romance cut scenes and to me it feels like the developer toned down the scenes and detracted from the art, sensuality, and emotional involvement of the characters.

Over all while the game is still very good and the story excellent I would hope the ME3 returns to the original artfully and emotional presentation from the first game.

[Prince Keldar]

The only thing that I didn't like is how short Tali's romance scene was, the shortest of the three female romance options. I don't care that they didn't show any skin like in ME1 but Tali was really the only one I truly cared about.



I agree I liked the romance scenes in ME1 and it was the same scene with both Ashley and Liara. I just simply wish that Tali's was a bit longer is all.

[primero holodon]

all i want is for the ME team to realise that there are other ways of developing characters than romance. I'd like to be able to converse with squad members more than once before I'm forced to romance them to continue talking. and how about if courtship was different for each character?

[robtheguru]

I would like to see a return to the first game. Hell, something like Dragon Age would be great. I always felt Dragon Age was a good continuation from ME1's romance scenes.



Personally, I think Bioware copped out a bit due to the totally rediculous and over the top outcry over the interspecies relations and nudity(which was no worse than a 15 rated movie). I think if anything, all the attention probably attracted more people to the game. A fact is sex sells, look at all the role models available to young girls, it's singers with next to nothing on. So really, it wouldn't hurt them that much to put some of it into the game. In any case, anyone who wants to avoid it can simply not engage in a romance.

[Shadow_broker]

Prince Keldar wrote...

The only thing that I didn't like is how short Tali's romance scene was, the shortest of the three female romance options. I don't care that they didn't show any skin like in ME1 but Tali was really the only one I truly cared about.

I agree I liked the romance scenes in ME1 and it was the same scene with both Ashley and Liara. I just simply wish that Tali's was a bit longer is all.

Mirandas had about 2 lines of dialagoue TOTAL
Miranda dosen't get post romance dialagoue Tali does
Mirandas romance was far shorter than talis unless you consider akward thrusting scene as "romance scene"

[Shadow_broker]

robtheguru wrote...

I would like to see a return to the first game. Hell, something like Dragon Age would be great. I always felt Dragon Age was a good continuation from ME1's romance scenes.

Personally, I think Bioware copped out a bit due to the totally rediculous and over the top outcry over the interspecies relations and nudity(which was no worse than a 15 rated movie). I think if anything, all the attention probably attracted more people to the game. A fact is sex sells, look at all the role models available to young girls, it's singers with next to nothing on. So really, it wouldn't hurt them that much to put some of it into the game. In any case, anyone who wants to avoid it can simply not engage in a romance.

Dragon age romance scenes really?
Barbie dolls with undewear

[Robbie529]

all i want is for the ME team to realise that there are other ways of developing characters than romance. I'd like to be able to converse with squad members more than once before I'm forced to romance them to continue talking. and how about if courtship was different for each character?



I agree, and after playing LOTSB, I think the developers are on the right track with dialouge and romance. I would like to see the variety that was in DA concerning romance dialouge and different squad members. I also would like to see more sex, as in ME1 scenes. They were tastefully done, between 2 consenting adults, meant to be viewed by adult gamers. I also support same sex liasons. Again, it is a choice, no sex if you don't romance. Simple enough.

[shinobi602]

Personally I hope they make them a lot longer, and tasteful, and not be afraid to show a lot of skin. Seriously, as long as it doesn't go into AO territory, it'll be great.

[kraidy1117]

I prefer how they did it with Liara in LotSB. Fade to black. Your mind can do a better job then a limited game engine.

Modifié par kraidy1117, 09 septembre 2010 - 11:08 .

[robtheguru]

kraidy1117 wrote...

I prefer how they did it with Liara in LotSB. Fade to black. Your mind can do a better job then a limited game engine.

I'm glad to see my sig is starting to spread, however I do have to disagree. My imagination is vivid to the point of insanity, sometimes it is better just to see things rather than being left to think of them.

In terms of romance scenes, I don't think anything comes close to Heavy Rain, now that was class. Hopefully something like that will come to Mass Effect!

[1490]

You know I don't really care much about sex scenes. Personally, it's more important/interesting for me to see the lead up and the dialogue than the lovemaking part. I don't think sexual content is bad, but it doesn't really bother me if it's absent, because you get the idea that a romance is taking place well enough. If you really want to see Liara or Tali naked, there are lots of anatomically-accurate pictures other places online.

[ufoflieger]

1490 wrote...

You know I don't really care much about sex scenes. Personally, it's more important/interesting for me to see the lead up and the dialogue than the lovemaking part. I don't think sexual content is bad, but it doesn't really bother me if it's absent, because you get the idea that a romance is taking place well enough. If you really want to see Liara or Tali naked, there are lots of anatomically-accurate pictures other places online.

That's my opinion, too. The lead up to the sex is what is interesting, not the sex itself. I think we all know how it looks like. =)
But I want to see the relationship between Shep and his/her LI. That was in my opinion well done in Tali's scene, and exceptionally well done in Liara's scene.
And another point is: I'd rather have no sex scene at all than the DAO-solution with underwear.
Conclusion:Emotion important, sex not so much.

[kraidy1117]

robtheguru wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

I prefer how they did it with Liara in LotSB. Fade to black. Your mind can do a better job then a limited game engine.

I'm glad to see my sig is starting to spread, however I do have to disagree. My imagination is vivid to the point of insanity, sometimes it is better just to see things rather than being left to think of them.

In terms of romance scenes, I don't think anything comes close to Heavy Rain, now that was class. Hopefully something like that will come to Mass Effect!

If this is your sig then thanks for making it!!!!

[1490]

ufoflieger wrote...

That's my opinion, too. The lead up to the sex is what is interesting, not the sex itself. I think we all know how it looks like. =)
But I want to see the relationship between Shep and his/her LI. That was in my opinion well done in Tali's scene, and exceptionally well done in Liara's scene.
And another point is: I'd rather have no sex scene at all than the DAO-solution with underwear.
Conclusion:Emotion important, sex not so much.

Exactly.

[havoc373]

1490 wrote...

ufoflieger wrote...

That's my opinion, too. The lead up to the sex is what is interesting, not the sex itself. I think we all know how it looks like. =)
But I want to see the relationship between Shep and his/her LI. That was in my opinion well done in Tali's scene, and exceptionally well done in Liara's scene.
And another point is: I'd rather have no sex scene at all than the DAO-solution with underwear.
Conclusion:Emotion important, sex not so much.

Exactly.

quoted again for truth

Modifié par havoc373, 10 septembre 2010 - 12:09 .

[adriano_c]

My thoughts -



I can't help but feel embarrassed to watch any of them. Even alone.

[Oblivious]

kraidy1117 wrote...

I prefer how they did it with Liara in LotSB. Fade to black. Your mind can do a better job then a limited game engine.

I don't. What happened, really? Did they snuggle like with Jack? Have actual sex like with Tali and Miranda? Did they just "play" around a bit? What happened? The bed didn't even make a cameo! They both began standing fully-clothed, they ended standing fully-clothed. This is like my problem with KotOR, did Bastila and Revan actually do it or did they simply kiss?

It's a serious let-down from ME1's Liara scene, which was more artistic than the ones with the human including a color tint, alien interactions, smoke, and being slightly longer, to ME2's fade to black without any reason. At least with Tali and Miranda I can say with certainty they did.

I prefer artistic romance scenes like the original, not the "fade-to-black" of Neverwinter Night's days and definitely like the 12-year old immature depiction of sex that ME2 gave.

[brfritos]

kraidy1117 wrote...

I prefer how they did it with Liara in LotSB. Fade to black. Your mind can do a better job then a limited game engine.

Let's not forget that you have this memorys because what was showed in the first game, so.... 

I agree with the OP, the scenes in ME1 aren't offensive, bad taste or pr0n, the devs did a great job in showing the feelings behind it, instead of simply showing skin.

Modifié par brfritos, 10 septembre 2010 - 12:53 .

[Aulis Vaara]

The underwear in Dragon Age was actually really disturbing in those scenes, I'd rather have no sex scene than ones with underwear.



What I actually most enjoyed, were the hugs between Shepard and Liara. Hugs >> sex scene, any day.

[Nezzer]

I think the final romance scene must be very special and a lot longer than the ones we've got by now. It needs the intimacy and sensuality from ME1, showing the real deal (not necessarily with nudity), and the depth and extended dialogue from LotSB. But I really would like to have special in-mission dialogue with my LI and be able to walk through the Citadel holding hands, cuddle and all the stuff a normal couple would do

The romance part of ME should play a bigger and a routine part of the story in ME3 instead of just showing up by the end of the game. It's really annoying that Shepard doesn't give a damn if his/hers LI dies in the suicide mission, too damn cold.

[moffjc01]

The scenes from me1 conveyed a lot more emotion than me2. though the emotion in LotSB if continuing romance from me1 was done very well through the conversations but if the two characters feel that deeply for each other where is the passion?

The developers show us what they were callable of conveying in the first game I would just have liked to see a continued evolution of that. A picture is worth a thousand words.



As for the people who didn’t like the depiction in me1 and preferred the fade to black and if the developers are trying to please everybody just make a toggle in the options menu.



I am glad to see people discussing this without getting off topic. I look forward to reading more responses.

[mmmu]

I think the romance scene in LotSB was the best Bioware has done to date and if they keep up that as a standard for romance scenes, I am satisfied.
The scenes have often lacked emotion which is the main driving point in _romance_ scenes but I think they acquired that emotion well now.

That's just my opinion though there's no need to go spreading it around. 

Modifié par mmmu, 11 septembre 2010 - 11:53 .

[Gibb_Shepard]

need more sideboob