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[Brockololly]

I have faith that while DAO to DA2 may seem like entirely separate and distinct stories, there are threads that tie them together, like Flemeth. So it may not be a straight sequel like ME1 to ME2, but eventually at least, maybe by the end of DA2 or DA3, we'll start to see everything coming together and some of these mysteries like all the questions surrounding Morrigan and Flemeth will start making more sense.

[Antaress]

nightcobra8928 wrote...

Antaress wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

For all of you complaining about the continuation (or not, as the case may be) of the Warden's story.. some of us would really like to know how Maric died or more details on Fiona or more information on a number of those teasing codex entries in the game. I love the Warden, don't get me wrong, but more than that I love Thedas. It's like a whole new Middle-earth to get to know. I can't wait to see what the writers deliver in the future. Will I miss hanging out with my companions from Origins? Most definitely. Will I be excited about meeting new characters and uncovering new plots and information? By the Creators, you bet!

it is your hero what makes world and not world. ofcourse i want to know how thing will develop but i want to see them from my wardens eyes 

you'll see them through hawke's eyes as well and shape the world to YOUR decisions, dragon age will feature lots of different protagonists. we may even play the role of a chevalier in a future game, who knows?

yes but it is HAWK hero of BW and not warden your hero with who you lought, cry and feeled Fedas.

[Antaress]

if I know that my warden will be back in future

I will be the first one in line to buy DA2

they really should tell us if we see our warden again or not

[nightcobra]

Antaress wrote...

nightcobra8928 wrote...

Antaress wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

For all of you complaining about the continuation (or not, as the case may be) of the Warden's story.. some of us would really like to know how Maric died or more details on Fiona or more information on a number of those teasing codex entries in the game. I love the Warden, don't get me wrong, but more than that I love Thedas. It's like a whole new Middle-earth to get to know. I can't wait to see what the writers deliver in the future. Will I miss hanging out with my companions from Origins? Most definitely. Will I be excited about meeting new characters and uncovering new plots and information? By the Creators, you bet!

it is your hero what makes world and not world. ofcourse i want to know how thing will develop but i want to see them from my wardens eyes 

you'll see them through hawke's eyes as well and shape the world to YOUR decisions, dragon age will feature lots of different protagonists. we may even play the role of a chevalier in a future game, who knows?

yes but it is HAWK hero of BW and not warden your hero with who you lought, cry and feeled Fedas.

you'll still be deciding hawke's personality, actions, decisions, first name, much like the warden who could be a cousland, amell, etc all of them also with a fixed beginning

Modifié par nightcobra8928, 10 septembre 2010 - 02:40 .

[David Gaider]

Antaress wrote...
if I know that my warden will be back in future
I will be the first one in line to buy DA2
they really should tell us if we see our warden again or not

Tough.

What you are getting is a new hero, who's just as new to you now as the Warden was before you bought DAO. If you want to decide that nothing could ever be as fantastic to you as the Warden was, well that's quite a compliment to us-- but you're free to do so. But as to whether or not you'll see the Warden again, as a playable character or not, we're not going to tell you that.

[Antaress]

nightcobra8928 wrote...

Antaress wrote...

nightcobra8928 wrote...

Antaress wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

For all of you complaining about the continuation (or not, as the case may be) of the Warden's story.. some of us would really like to know how Maric died or more details on Fiona or more information on a number of those teasing codex entries in the game. I love the Warden, don't get me wrong, but more than that I love Thedas. It's like a whole new Middle-earth to get to know. I can't wait to see what the writers deliver in the future. Will I miss hanging out with my companions from Origins? Most definitely. Will I be excited about meeting new characters and uncovering new plots and information? By the Creators, you bet!

it is your hero what makes world and not world. ofcourse i want to know how thing will develop but i want to see them from my wardens eyes 

you'll see them through hawke's eyes as well and shape the world to YOUR decisions, dragon age will feature lots of different protagonists. we may even play the role of a chevalier in a future game, who knows?

yes but it is HAWK hero of BW and not warden your hero with who you lought, cry and feeled Fedas.

you'll still be deciding hawke's personality, actions, decisions, first name, much like the warden who could be a cousland, amell, etc all of them also with a fixed beginning

hmm how i can exlpain it is same thin as MGS without Solid Snake and DMC without Dante 
it goes same to Warden, He/She was my first and never forgeting experianc  and it made me want to continue his/her story 

[Antaress]

David Gaider wrote...

Antaress wrote...
if I know that my warden will be back in future
I will be the first one in line to buy DA2
they really should tell us if we see our warden again or not

Tough.

What you are getting is a new hero, who's just as new to you now as the Warden was before you bought DAO. If you want to decide that nothing could ever be as fantastic to you as the Warden was, well that's quite a compliment to us-- but you're free to do so. But as to whether or not you'll see the Warden again, as a playable character or not, we're not going to tell you that.

I know that you want us to experianc something new but you have already created epic Hero Warden, whoes story hasnot ended and can be continued.

[nightcobra]

Antaress wrote...

nightcobra8928 wrote...

Antaress wrote...

nightcobra8928 wrote...

Antaress wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

For all of you complaining about the continuation (or not, as the case may be) of the Warden's story.. some of us would really like to know how Maric died or more details on Fiona or more information on a number of those teasing codex entries in the game. I love the Warden, don't get me wrong, but more than that I love Thedas. It's like a whole new Middle-earth to get to know. I can't wait to see what the writers deliver in the future. Will I miss hanging out with my companions from Origins? Most definitely. Will I be excited about meeting new characters and uncovering new plots and information? By the Creators, you bet!

it is your hero what makes world and not world. ofcourse i want to know how thing will develop but i want to see them from my wardens eyes 

you'll see them through hawke's eyes as well and shape the world to YOUR decisions, dragon age will feature lots of different protagonists. we may even play the role of a chevalier in a future game, who knows?

yes but it is HAWK hero of BW and not warden your hero with who you lought, cry and feeled Fedas.

you'll still be deciding hawke's personality, actions, decisions, first name, much like the warden who could be a cousland, amell, etc all of them also with a fixed beginning

hmm how i can exlpain it is same thin as MGS without Solid Snake and DMC without Dante 
it goes same to Warden, He/She was my first and never forgeting experianc  and it made me want to continue his/her story 

by that logic you would need two more games with the warden as the protagonist before they introduced another like how it happened with metal gear and DMC. and even then mgs3 with big boss as the character, not solid snake, was pretty good.

with just one game in the series, you can't put the warden as the staple character in the series

[The Masked Rog]

Antaress wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Antaress wrote...
if I know that my warden will be back in future
I will be the first one in line to buy DA2
they really should tell us if we see our warden again or not

Tough.

What you are getting is a new hero, who's just as new to you now as the Warden was before you bought DAO. If you want to decide that nothing could ever be as fantastic to you as the Warden was, well that's quite a compliment to us-- but you're free to do so. But as to whether or not you'll see the Warden again, as a playable character or not, we're not going to tell you that.

I know that you want us to experianc something new but you have already created epic Hero Warden, whoes story hasnot ended and can be continued.

My story ended - literally. My warden is dead. I'd hate if I was forced to ressurect him or create a new warden to continue the adventure. i'm done with the warden and glad BioWare is throwing a new character and companions at us. Just because the warden was great it doesn't mean they should keep him. This game is not about the warden.

[SirShreK]

David Gaider wrote...

Antaress wrote...
if I know that my warden will be back in future
I will be the first one in line to buy DA2
they really should tell us if we see our warden again or not

Tough.

What you are getting is a new hero, who's just as new to you now as the Warden was before you bought DAO. If you want to decide that nothing could ever be as fantastic to you as the Warden was, well that's quite a compliment to us-- but you're free to do so. But as to whether or not you'll see the Warden again, as a playable character or not, we're not going to tell you that.

Guys, that's a Yes.

[David Gaider]

Antaress wrote...
I know that you want us to experianc something new but you have already created epic Hero Warden, whoes story hasnot ended and can be continued.

We could take the Warden onto a brand new adventure, sure. It'd have to be brand new, however, as the previous adventure is already done. And we'd have to come up with some way to "reset" the power level of the character again, which could involve all sorts of unpleasantness I'm sure you don't want to think about.

Or we could start a new adventure in a new land with a new hero, something that carries on a common thread between the games.

We've opted for the latter. Just because something can be done doesn't mean it should be.

SirShreK wrote...
Guys, that's a Yes.

Or a "we haven't decided yet". Or a "we're leaving our options open". Or a "no, but we'd rather not discuss that right now". Or a "yes, but if we told you we'd have to kill you."

If you're going to take every evasion as a confirmation, this is going to get real old, real fast.

Modifié par David Gaider, 10 septembre 2010 - 03:03 .

[soundchaser721]

Brockololly wrote...

I have faith that while DAO to DA2 may seem like entirely separate and distinct stories, there are threads that tie them together, like Flemeth. So it may not be a straight sequel like ME1 to ME2, but eventually at least, maybe by the end of DA2 or DA3, we'll start to see everything coming together and some of these mysteries like all the questions surrounding Morrigan and Flemeth will start making more sense.

Thats what I'm thinking and I'm also interested to see how the warden's decisions will impact DA2 specifically in regards to flemeth and morrigan

[DanteCousland]

There's loose ends, it sucks but there making a new story now so only a few of those loose ends will get tied up. It sucks but there's nothing we can do.

[SirShreK]

David Gaider wrote...

SirSHrek wrote......

YES! YeS! Oh YES!

Or a "we haven't decided yet". Or a "we're leaving our options open". Or a "no, but we'd rather not discuss that right now". Or a "yes, but if we told you we'd have to kill you."

If you're going to take every evasion as a confirmation, this is going to get real old, real fast.

err.... what? What is going to get old real fast? Evasion of confirmation or confirmation of evasion or confirmation of evasive un-preparedness?

And you are free to kill me anytime you want!

[nightcobra]

i'd rather every dragon age to star a different hero in subsequent titles like a chevalier, an antivan assassin, a qunari, even a "fex" "(dont knom if i'm saying correctly) whatever that race is.

this keeps the series fresh while having the familiarity that it is your thedas from previous titles

[Brockololly]

David Gaider wrote...
And we'd have to come up with some way to "reset" the power level of the character again, which could involve all sorts of unpleasantness I'm sure you don't want to think about.

Stepping into Mirror World sounds like a decent reset button, eh?

I'm fine with Hawke being the center of attention in DA2, as it could provide a new and different POV on Thedas and the events going on that are destined to "change" the world. But Witch Hunt ends on such a tease for the Warden's possible role in the future, whether thats figuring out what the "gift" was that Morrigan left behind and having the Wardens on the lookout for the change to come, or whether thats having your Warden follow Morrigan into Mirror World to give Old God Baby some jedi training to get ready for the future.

So long as Morrigan plays a role in the future of DA, there seems to be a role for the Warden to return in some capacity as well. But for now, we just have to see how DA2 plays out first.

[SirShreK]

Brockololly wrote...

David Gaider wrote...
And we'd have to come up with some way to "reset" the power level of the character again, which could involve all sorts of unpleasantness I'm sure you don't want to think about.

Stepping into Mirror World sounds like a decent reset button, eh?

I'm fine with Hawke being the center of attention in DA2, as it could provide a new and different POV on Thedas and the events going on that are destined to "change" the world. But Witch Hunt ends on such a tease for the Warden's possible role in the future, whether thats figuring out what the "gift" was that Morrigan left behind and having the Wardens on the lookout for the change to come, or whether thats having your Warden follow Morrigan into Mirror World to give Old God Baby some jedi training to get ready for the future.

So long as Morrigan plays a role in the future of DA, there seems to be a role for the Warden to return in some capacity as well. But for now, we just have to see how DA2 plays out first.

Personally I approve of your posts! I think that Morrigan is definitely set to make a comeback... .. Warden too, if he/she survived the Origins story..... I am actually wondering if they have not set him up as a playable character (for Reasons Mr. Gaider mentioned like leveling)  he is going to be a plot point somwhere crucial!

Modifié par SirShreK, 10 septembre 2010 - 03:13 .

[upsettingshorts]

Wait, did someone just reference Yes Minister? Awesome. That's where the line in my sig comes from.



I'd like to play Sir Humphrey Appleby in DA:2.

[Antaress]

David Gaider wrote...

Antaress wrote...
I know that you want us to experianc something new but you have already created epic Hero Warden, whoes story hasnot ended and can be continued.

We could take the Warden onto a brand new adventure, sure. It'd have to be brand new, however, as the previous adventure is already done. And we'd have to come up with some way to "reset" the power level of the character again, which could involve all sorts of unpleasantness I'm sure you don't want to think about.

Or we could start a new adventure in a new land with a new hero, something that carries on a common thread between the games.

We've opted for the latter. Just because something can be done doesn't mean it should be.

SirShreK wrote...
Guys, that's a Yes.

Or a "we haven't decided yet". Or a "we're leaving our options open". Or a "no, but we'd rather not discuss that right now". Or a "yes, but if we told you we'd have to kill you."

If you're going to take every evasion as a confirmation, this is going to get real old, real fast.

I think it is too early to creat new hero, very lot of people are dissapointed  and I doubt DA2 will have same succses as DA:O .  Warden is world and it is warden what makes DA what it is. and now what we got? Hawk new  guy deserted his own village and left blight which is not much heroic. well ok fine let Hawk swing sword for a while. but at list give us hope that we will see our warden again
No warden
No DA  

[upsettingshorts]

Oh, I forgot to post my point. I definitely did not want to continue the adventures of the Warden. His ending is already written - he's either going to be killed by something or he's going to run off to die in the Deep Roads. The Grey Wardens are ultimately depressing and tragic and I want nothing more to do with them.



They - as they themselves more or less admit - are an uncomfortable necessity. I'm glad we're getting a different hero.

[SirShreK]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Wait, did someone just reference Yes Minister? Awesome. That's where the line in my sig comes from.

I'd like to play Sir Humphrey Appleby in DA:2.

That role is already taken: Flemeth!

[Beerfish]

Although I liked my warden, I'm very happy that the next game is a new hero and not a Warden. For as interesting as the whole Warden/Spawn storyline and such is it also places a number of limits on the character and story just by the nature of what it is to be a warden. It should give the writers and game makers more freedom to explore other story archs.

[Meltemph]

Antaress wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Antaress wrote...
I know that you want us to experianc something new but you have already created epic Hero Warden, whoes story hasnot ended and can be continued.

We could take the Warden onto a brand new adventure, sure. It'd have to be brand new, however, as the previous adventure is already done. And we'd have to come up with some way to "reset" the power level of the character again, which could involve all sorts of unpleasantness I'm sure you don't want to think about.

Or we could start a new adventure in a new land with a new hero, something that carries on a common thread between the games.

We've opted for the latter. Just because something can be done doesn't mean it should be.

SirShreK wrote...
Guys, that's a Yes.

Or a "we haven't decided yet". Or a "we're leaving our options open". Or a "no, but we'd rather not discuss that right now". Or a "yes, but if we told you we'd have to kill you."

If you're going to take every evasion as a confirmation, this is going to get real old, real fast.

I think it is too early to creat new hero, very lot of people are dissapointed  and I doubt DA2 will have same succses as DA:O .  Warden is world and it is warden what makes DA what it is. and now what we got? Hawk new  guy deserted his own village and left blight which is not much heroic. well ok fine let Hawk swing sword for a while. but at list give us hope that we will see our warden again
No warden
No DA  

Why are some people so obsessed with the "warden"?  What about those who had their warden make a sacrifice?  They are just SOL because you want "your" character?  Dragon Age is more about the character, it is more about Thedas then it is about the Warden.  The world is what drives the story, not the story driving the world, you have that backwards.  This is not Mass Effect where the story drives the world, where the world is very dependent on Shepard.  

I definitely do not want to be stuck playing the exact same character through out the world of Thedas.  I want to experience the lore from different perspectives with different people.  Not to mention in order to please everyone with all the possible endings, you would definitely be constricting the world and depth of the story just so everyones story matters.  

Modifié par Meltemph, 10 septembre 2010 - 03:32 .

[Antaress]

Meltemph wrote...

Antaress wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Antaress wrote...
I know that you want us to experianc something new but you have already created epic Hero Warden, whoes story hasnot ended and can be continued.

We could take the Warden onto a brand new adventure, sure. It'd have to be brand new, however, as the previous adventure is already done. And we'd have to come up with some way to "reset" the power level of the character again, which could involve all sorts of unpleasantness I'm sure you don't want to think about.

Or we could start a new adventure in a new land with a new hero, something that carries on a common thread between the games.

We've opted for the latter. Just because something can be done doesn't mean it should be.

SirShreK wrote...
Guys, that's a Yes.

Or a "we haven't decided yet". Or a "we're leaving our options open". Or a "no, but we'd rather not discuss that right now". Or a "yes, but if we told you we'd have to kill you."

If you're going to take every evasion as a confirmation, this is going to get real old, real fast.

I think it is too early to creat new hero, very lot of people are dissapointed  and I doubt DA2 will have same succses as DA:O .  Warden is world and it is warden what makes DA what it is. and now what we got? Hawk new  guy deserted his own village and left blight which is not much heroic. well ok fine let Hawk swing sword for a while. but at list give us hope that we will see our warden again
No warden
No DA  

Why are some people so obsessed with the "warden"?  What about those who had their warden make a sacrifice?  They are just SOL because you want "your" character?  Dragon Age is more about the Thedas then it is about the Warden.  The world is what drives the story, not the story driving the world, you have that backwards.  This is not Mass Effect where the story drives the world, where the world is very dependent on Shepard.  

I definitely do not want to be stuck playing the exact same character through out the world of Thedas.  I want to experience the lore from different perspectives with different people.  Not to mention in order to please everyone with all the possible endings, you would definitely be constricting the world and depth of the story just so everyones story matters.  

...
We already have Commander Hawk

[upsettingshorts]

It's the downside of the freedom DA:O gives the player in creating his Warden's character. People tend to think they own their Warden.



They don't.