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[LadyKarrakaz]

I play an evil female dwarf noble.


She supports Bhelen because the throne has to remain within the Aeducan family. 
But I read that supporting Harrowmont could make her queen after the epilogue. Is it the same if I put Bhelen on the throne?

Here are the possible endings according to the wiki, but nothing tells me what I should do if I want to become Queen in the epilogue. Should I side with Harrowmont/Bhelen, should I destroy the Anvil or not?

Quote from the wikia
[list][*]If Harrowmont
becomes king, he further isolates Orzammar from the surface world.
Harrowmont will eventually die - suggested he could not handle dwarven
political infighting anymore, or he was poisoned.
[*]If The Warden destroyed the Anvil of the Void, a group of
Dwarves will try to recreate it from the remains. The first golem they
create is animated by a spirit taken from the Fade. It goes berserk,
killing many, and further research is banned. Interest in reopening
Caridin's research never wanes, however. Note: This sets the stage for Golems of Amgarrak.
[*]Siding with Harrowmont and recovering the Anvil of the Void
will also lead to a decline after initial success. Harrowmont will
discourage trade with the surface, leading to further isolation. In
addition, after Harrowmont refuses Branka more volunteers for the Anvil,
she will begin raiding the surface world for the needed ingredients.
Eventually the surface world will retaliate, and some of Orzammar's
tunnels will collapses in a battle - cutting off all access to the
surface. This also happens even if the Dwarf Warden requests human
military aid from Queen Anora in battling darkspawn in the deep roads.
[*]Siding with Bhelen and preserving the Anvil is greeted with
cheers and celebration, at first, until Branka refuses to produce golems
solely for the king which results in Bhelen launching his forces
against her fortress in the Deep Roads. After years of siege, this
proves fruitless as the fort is protected by a legion of golems making
it impregnable.
[*]Siding with Bhelen
and destroying the Anvil will cause Orzammar to come into a new age of
prosperity at the expense of a dictatorship. Bhelen strengthens
Orzammar's ties with the surface world. He also grants casteless greater
rights and privileges in exchange for fighting the darkspawn. This
policy allows Orzammar to reclaim lost territory, but it upsets the
noble and warrior castes. After several failed assassination attempts,
he dissolves the Assembly and rules alone.

Thanks for the help.

Modifié par Purple Lady, 10 septembre 2010 - 06:46 .

[atheelogos]

I don't think you can become king/queen.

[Zjarcal]

Supposedly Harrowmont would name you his successor if you make him King. At least that's what I've heard from some people, though I don't think it's ever reflected in the game or the epilogue.

[LadyKarrakaz]

atheelogos wrote...

I don't think you can become king/queen.

There is for sure an ending where Harrowmont dies and chooses you as his heir. that's why I want to know if there are other possibilities of becoming Queen/King of Orzammar. 

[DarthCaine]

I've only heard rumors of there being an ending where you become king, I too would like to know whether this is true, but I don't see such an ending in the epilogue section of the wiki. What happens in Awakening if you're king? You still disappear ?

[LadyKarrakaz]

DarthCaine wrote...

I've only heard rumors of there being an ending where you become king, I too would like to know whether this is true, but I don't see such an ending in the epilogue section of the wiki. What happens in Awakening if you're king? You still disappear ?

Cannot say, it's my first playthrough as a dwarf.

[Sarah1281]

Purple Lady wrote...

atheelogos wrote...

I don't think you can become king/queen.

There is for sure an ending where Harrowmont dies and chooses you as his heir. that's why I want to know if there are other possibilities of becoming Queen/King of Orzammar. 

No there isn't. I know the wiki had it listed as an ending for awhile but it's a myth (as is the 'Harrowmont has Bhelen arrested and dragged kicking and screaming to the Anvil to become a golem' scenario if you preserve the Anvil with Harrowmont). You can RP this is what happens, but it's not canon.

[Elhanan]

I have not seen what happens with the Noble hunters, but I understand that this may result in an apparent heir being born.

[Sarah1281]

Elhanan wrote...

I have not seen what happens with the Noble hunters, but I understand that this may result in an apparent heir being born.

If you sleep with Mardy as a DNM then you have a son, yes, and you need to convince either Harrowmont or Bhelen to take him into their family at some point in the quest. This does NOT give him heir apparent status. Hell, he's not even acknowledged as your heir and since you're a Paragon you would need one for that if nothing else.

[Bruddajakka]

Though going off the fact you made head of a house, or end up founding your own. It would be likely though it would probably end up being Gorim, then your son. And now I have a mental image of Gorim raising Duran's son that's pretty d'aww worthy.

[LadyKarrakaz]

Do you become a Paragon whatever your choices are?

[Sarah1281]

Purple Lady wrote...

Do you become a Paragon whatever your choices are?

It does not matter if you live or die, are male or female, choose Harrowmont or Bhelen, return to Orzammar or stay on the Surface, or are Aeducan or Brosca. If you are a dwarf Warden, you become a Paragon.

[Bruddajakka]

Ugh I still haven't seen what happens if you put Bhelen on the throne as a Dwarf noble. Though I think in my next play through I'll do that, then have Alistair grant the "dwarves" military aid.

[Elhanan]

Sarah1281 wrote...

If you sleep with Mardy as a DNM then you have a son, yes, and you need to convince either Harrowmont or Bhelen to take him into their family at some point in the quest. This does NOT give him heir apparent status. Hell, he's not even acknowledged as your heir and since you're a Paragon you would need one for that if nothing else.

Then I will simply enjoy the notion that my DC Warden is uncle to the heir, and Bhelen is even more expendable if he gets out of control....