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[Dave of Canada]

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

You should sell dates with the team to raise money. Like at frats and sororities.

I'd totally buy an hour with Gaider if only to make him meet my Uncle and create the Twilight Zone.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 10 septembre 2010 - 05:13 .

[Anarya]

Your uncle looks like the game model of Gaider.

[Hathur]

Stinkface27 wrote...

Completely aside from the point, but I'd love to live in Canada-land where games are $60! :innocent:

This household has probably spent ~$400 on Dragon Age by now, between the games, expansions and DLC!

Still, I'd pay more to get more - any day!

Games $60 here in Canada? Uh... everywhere I go it's $49.99 for new releases... although that's for PC games... I don't play icky consoles... for one, they charge 10 dollars more per game than PC games

[Laine the Wise]

Dave of Canada wrote...

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

You should sell dates with the team to raise money. Like at frats and sororities.

I'd totally buy an hour with Gaider if only to make him meet my Uncle and create the Twilight Zone.

He's mine, Dave. You can't have him.  

I just need some red hair dye and my vision will be complete. Since I've been ninja'd for some reason, I'll just say it's a referrence to a certain character in a certain cartoon that highlights the adventures of two brothers. But it wasn't intended to be insulting.

[inappropriate link removed]

Modifié par Laine the Wise, 10 septembre 2010 - 06:35 .

[Earthborn Sniper]

Spending more money on game creation won't really make a game. It helps, sure, but if you want a really good game, it usually means it's going to take time and effort.



Speaking of which... Bioware, please take your time in making DA2, I'd hate to see the DA series go down the drain like some other series(*cough*Final Fantasy*more coughing*) I use to enjoy... Don't let us fans pressure you into trying to get it done quickly. I prefer it done right, even if I have to wait. I'll get down on my hands and knees and beg if I have to.

[NKKKK]

Big companies have their own brand of "common sense" too, no question.

lol

[Pritos]

NKKKK wrote...

Big companies have their own brand of "common sense" too, no question.

lol

lulz

[Bryy_Miller]

Faz432 wrote...

If had had lots of money I'd give it you.....actually no I wouldn't, I'd setup my own studio and get you to work for me. How much can you setup a studio on?

More than you have.

I wonder if the guys at Bioware had thought about that when EA bought them...are there things in place that stop people from doing that?

"Thanks for your money EA, now we're all going to leave and setup our own studio together"

It's called a contract.

[Fishy]

If you have no budget than just don't pretend that you have a big one.That usually end up in a big mess .You know like those b movie with no budget going overboard with cgi?



It's like people living higher than they should and end up with more dept and go bankrupt .It's the American thing.



Like hey i will purchase this house even though i don't have the money right now....

Oh **** that cause a lot of bank problem . Because banker are stupid and let's someone with a low income purchase a 700K residence.



You know stupid stuff like that.

[saruman31]

Nobody is going to mimic Warcraft's juggernaut success anytime soon.  TOR will need millions of accounts to be a real hit.

TOR...unlikely
GW2 100% 

Modifié par saruman31, 10 septembre 2010 - 08:29 .

[iampool]

Money ain't everything, take for example CDProjekt, what they are doing with witcher 2 is amazing, no one can deny that, and i don't think they have the same budget bioware guys have.



-> Didn't read the whole thread, just first post and bioware posts, sorry if someone said something like this before.

[ErichHartmann]

saruman31 wrote...

Nobody is going to mimic Warcraft's juggernaut success anytime soon.  TOR will need millions of accounts to be a real hit.

TOR...unlikely
GW2 100% 

Doubt it.  Guild Wars developers have a lot of hype to deliver.  Who knows how well that dynamic quest system will work if at all(?)   

Modifié par ErichHartmann, 10 septembre 2010 - 08:34 .

[Fishy]

iampool wrote...

Money ain't everything, take for example CDProjekt, what they are doing with witcher 2 is amazing, no one can deny that, and i don't think they have the same budget bioware guys have.

-> Didn't read the whole thread, just first post and bioware posts, sorry if someone said something like this before.

Most Hyped game probably cost around 20 millions today.Bioware  also have a lot more project than CDprojeckt.
Last thing you know , you spend 100 millions on a game and end up with no sale.Man that remind me of something.

Modifié par Suprez30, 10 septembre 2010 - 08:40 .

[rogue_assassin]

I don't think this guy has any idea what it takes to put together a game, financially, or otherwise. everything is apples and oranges I'm sure.



kind of an unproductive comment, no?

[Elanareon]

slimgrin wrote...

ErichHartmann wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

Ingrimm22 wrote...

I know you guys have very expensive delelopments going on at the moment (namely TOR and ME 3)

Jettison TOR. Problem solved.

Yep.....

Nobody is going to mimic Warcraft's juggernaut success anytime soon.  TOR will need millions of accounts to be a real hit.

The day I found out about TOR, I died a little on the inside.

But to the op's main point: DA2 does look like it has better production values to me. As long as they avoid 'streamlining' the game, I have no real concerns at this point.

I wonder why you aren't concerned now...

[saruman31]

ErichHartmann wrote...

saruman31 wrote...

Nobody is going to mimic Warcraft's juggernaut success anytime soon.  TOR will need millions of accounts to be a real hit.

TOR...unlikely
GW2 100% 

Doubt it.  Guild Wars developers have a lot of hype to deliver.  Who knows how well that dynamic quest system will work if at all(?)   

Firs of all, there is no market out there for Star Wars. just look at The Force Unleashed 2...its coming, its awesome and you can barely hear about it.  Unless George Lucas gets off his ass and does a proper(full of cgi and with Starkiller) Star Wars movie anything related is kinda unrecognized. Second, i know that Bioware will do a proper story but from what i have seen so far the combat looks really choppy. 

However will work is pretty much irrelevant since from what the genre has to offer now anything will be better.

[Estelindis]

Allow me to put it this way. I despise "conspiracy theories" (for the want of a better phrase). Nonetheless, I've found the difference in quality between DLC for DA:O and ME2 to be so vast that I have wondered if this is a form of market research by Bioware to see if a comparable number of players will buy DLC regardless of quality. If similar numbers buy DA:O and ME2 DLC, well, maybe all the money and effort that went into crafting beautiful new areas for ME2 DLC could have been used elsewhere, since people would have bought it even if it used recycled areas (as in DA:O DLC). I mean, *I* bought all story DLC for both games, in spite of noticing the difference fairly early; lots of other people could have done the same.

I don't like thinking this, but the thought arises nonetheless. After all, IIRC, Bioware are still in the process of figuring out their DLC model for the future. This could be seen as a legitimate way of helping them to do that. The main thing that really makes me think that my musings here aren't likely to reflect reality is knowing how much the Dragon Age team cares for its creations. But one can care for one's creations as much as one likes, and still not get a higher budget for presenting further elaborations of one's (originally awesome) story.

Regardless, I sincerely hope that DLC for DA2 is of a higher quality than what was released for DA:O.

Modifié par Estelindis, 10 septembre 2010 - 10:17 .

[Tooneyman]

I don't care what the budget is, but when it comes down to a video game. The most important aspect is it should be fun. Nothing more and nothing less. If it has a great story and the gameplay sucks. Why play it? I've seen games with a budget the size of COD and the game was horrible. I've seen games with the smallest of budgets lets say Shadow of the collessus and it was great, so please make the game fun.

[NvVanity]

David Gaider wrote...

biomag wrote...
No question about that. But also for a companies longevity its necessary to keep fans satisfied as returning customers are cheaper than gaining new ones. Additionally a bad reputation being spread by former fans isn't the best way to insure a companies success. Now, nothing about what I said is any news, but please BioWare spend a little more money on pre-release testing for DA than so far. Pretty much every addition to the main game has been a mess when it comes to bugs. Just to prevent disasters like the grand finale of "Witch Hunt".

Big companies have their own brand of "common sense" too, no question. All I'm saying is that throwing money at a problem is rarely a solution outside of a fan's desire. Quality is always going to be a concern, from every angle. Saying "make it better" is a bit of a no-brainer, don't you think?

Throwing money at a problem doesn't fix it? My knowledge of video game making has been destroyed. Curse you David Gaider!!!!!

[Tooneyman]

NvVanity wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

biomag wrote...
No question about that. But also for a companies longevity its necessary to keep fans satisfied as returning customers are cheaper than gaining new ones. Additionally a bad reputation being spread by former fans isn't the best way to insure a companies success. Now, nothing about what I said is any news, but please BioWare spend a little more money on pre-release testing for DA than so far. Pretty much every addition to the main game has been a mess when it comes to bugs. Just to prevent disasters like the grand finale of "Witch Hunt".

Big companies have their own brand of "common sense" too, no question. All I'm saying is that throwing money at a problem is rarely a solution outside of a fan's desire. Quality is always going to be a concern, from every angle. Saying "make it better" is a bit of a no-brainer, don't you think?

Throwing money at a problem doesn't fix it? My knowledge of video game making has been destroyed. Curse you David Gaider!!!!!

Oh, he got that from watching the oil spill.

[Bryy_Miller]

rogue_assassin wrote...

I don't think this guy has any idea what it takes to put together a game, financially, or otherwise. everything is apples and oranges I'm sure.

So many here don't. Some less than others. Doesn't stop them from giving their two cents.

[Haexpane]

iampool wrote...

Money ain't everything, take for example CDProjekt, what they are doing with witcher 2 is amazing, no one can deny that, and i don't think they have the same budget bioware guys have.
 .

isn't CDProjekt eastern block?  We have some eastern block devs at our company, it's literally 10x cheaper for them to do the development on some stuff than doing it in the USA.

[Haexpane]

saruman31 wrote...
 

Firs of all, there is no market out there for Star Wars. just look at The Force Unleashed 2... r.

check ur facts.  TFU1 was a big big seller