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Is Lady Hawke fertile/Can we have children?


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if lady Hawke can become pregnant and it doesn't let us skip that phase, im going to play as a dude.

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12% of women have difficulties getting/staying pregnant. I think the chances of of having a baby drop far more when you are busy fighting Qunari, the Templars, Striders, and everything else

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Oblivious wrote...

12% of women have difficulties getting/staying pregnant. I think the chances of of having a baby drop far more when you are busy fighting Qunari, the Templars, Striders, and everything else


True enough, but, as mentioned previously, the game will have timeskips. I think nine months is minimal, really.

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I'm still on the no wagon, simply because it would require to many ressourses, without adding much to the story unless it becomes a requirement to have the damn kid.



Rather use the money on better dialogue for *everyone*, not just those that want to turn it into a dating / real life game. Better dialogue also means more depth to the story anyway.

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Saibh wrote...

Oblivious wrote...

12% of women have difficulties getting/staying pregnant. I think the chances of of having a baby drop far more when you are busy fighting Qunari, the Templars, Striders, and everything else


True enough, but, as mentioned previously, the game will have timeskips. I think nine months is minimal, really.


and before someone says  nine months is a lot to skip just for this, remember that they can include the pregnancy event in one of the already existent timeskips.

Modifié par nightcobra8928, 12 septembre 2010 - 08:07 .


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nhsk wrote...

I'm still on the no wagon, simply because it would require to many ressourses, without adding much to the story unless it becomes a requirement to have the damn kid.

Rather use the money on better dialogue for *everyone*, not just those that want to turn it into a dating / real life game. Better dialogue also means more depth to the story anyway.


having a child is already a golden opportunity for more depth in dialogue between you and your party

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Saibh wrote...

Oblivious wrote...

12% of women have difficulties getting/staying pregnant. I think the chances of of having a baby drop far more when you are busy fighting Qunari, the Templars, Striders, and everything else


True enough, but, as mentioned previously, the game will have timeskips. I think nine months is minimal, really.

You mean a nation of warriors, the Chantry, and the animals of Thedas will stop attacking Fem!Hawke for 9 months just because she's pregnant? Wow, Kirkwall is so friendly:wizard:

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Oblivious wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Oblivious wrote...

12% of women have difficulties getting/staying pregnant. I think the chances of of having a baby drop far more when you are busy fighting Qunari, the Templars, Striders, and everything else


True enough, but, as mentioned previously, the game will have timeskips. I think nine months is minimal, really.

You mean a nation of warriors, the Chantry, and the animals of Thedas will stop attacking Fem!Hawke for 9 months just because she's pregnant? Wow, Kirkwall is so friendly:wizard:


You assume a lot about the plot. You assume there are never moments of lull. Presumably nothing interesting happens in timeskips. If nothing interesting is happening, it doesn't hurt if Lady Hawke isn't fighting.

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nightcobra8928 wrote...

nhsk wrote...

I'm still on the no wagon, simply because it would require to many ressourses, without adding much to the story unless it becomes a requirement to have the damn kid.

Rather use the money on better dialogue for *everyone*, not just those that want to turn it into a dating / real life game. Better dialogue also means more depth to the story anyway.


having a child is already a golden opportunity for more depth in dialogue between you and your party


Better dialogue in general is a golden opportunity for more depth in dialogue between you and your party without removing precious ressourses from elsewhere, and without penalizing players for either pursuing a same-sex romance or not wanting the kid in general. Unless the dialogue is so deep that there is options for dialogue that is available only if you don't have children (which is doubtful).

Now if Bethany decides to carry something we still have kids involved, but not the player... I wouldn't mind that.

Modifié par nhsk, 12 septembre 2010 - 08:16 .


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Oblivious wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Oblivious wrote...

12% of women have difficulties getting/staying pregnant. I think the chances of of having a baby drop far more when you are busy fighting Qunari, the Templars, Striders, and everything else


True enough, but, as mentioned previously, the game will have timeskips. I think nine months is minimal, really.

You mean a nation of warriors, the Chantry, and the animals of Thedas will stop attacking Fem!Hawke for 9 months just because she's pregnant? Wow, Kirkwall is so friendly:wizard:


you'd be surprised, in the art of war, there are only two moments in a year where it's viable to send an army to war.

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Kind of seems like people are assuming any children will be had during the course of the main plot. It could easily be something like a romance epilogue at the end of the game.

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Solstice-x wrote...

if lady Hawke can become pregnant and it doesn't let us skip that phase, im going to play as a dude.


Nope.

"I'm going to kick all the gay characters out of my party" was better.

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Maybe if Lady Hawke has a baby, her baby will fight OGB and have a huge face off. LOL

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being a parent in a rpg is something that has lots of potential mostly due to the fact of how pratically untouched the subject is (fable2=bad example, lufia2 rise of the sinistrals while simple, handled it better). i'd love it if bioware explored more on this since they said family is a very important theme in DA2 and let's face it, what a more powerful theme of family than to start your own?

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*insert quote from Darth Vader at the end of Episode 3*

Am very much not liking the idea of a lifestyle sim. Although, if they put it in, it would save me $50 come March ;-)

Modifié par Avilia, 12 septembre 2010 - 10:08 .


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Avilia wrote...

*insert quote from Darth Vader at the end of Episode 3*

Am very much not liking the idea of a lifestyle sim. Although, if they put it in, it would save me $50 come March ;-)


Why does everyone assume you have to breastfeed and there'd be QTE diaper changing? You don't think you could just have a kid that you can have a unique relationship with, similar to how you can have friendships or romances, and family relationships? Maybe you can neglect them. You can neglect pretty much anyone else.

It's just an added dimension to a story that spans ten years, and relationship that's possibly just as long. Maybe you get an infant by the end of the series. Maybe you can choose when you have a kid, or if at all. It seems silly to say "If Hawke can have kids, I'm not buying the game!" You could have children in DAO.

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Perhaps. I suppose my fear is that DA2 will turn into Fable. Which I hated. I understand others like that and that's good. Just isn't to my taste is all :)

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Avilia wrote...

Perhaps. I suppose my fear is that DA2 will turn into Fable. Which I hated. I understand others like that and that's good. Just isn't to my taste is all :)


which is why i added this to my statement:

(fable2=bad example, lufia2 rise of the sinistrals while simple, handled it better)

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Oblivious wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Oblivious wrote...

12% of women have difficulties getting/staying pregnant. I think the chances of of having a baby drop far more when you are busy fighting Qunari, the Templars, Striders, and everything else


True enough, but, as mentioned previously, the game will have timeskips. I think nine months is minimal, really.

You mean a nation of warriors, the Chantry, and the animals of Thedas will stop attacking Fem!Hawke for 9 months just because she's pregnant? Wow, Kirkwall is so friendly:wizard:


You do know we are talking about Lady Hawke here?

If you attack her during pregnancy one of her finishing moves will include the embryo punching you in the face.

Lady Hawke's pregnancy will only mean that she will do less push-ups in a day, and that she gets extra cranky if ambushed in the morning. [She will fight bare-handed in a pregnancy-berserkerlike rage. Maker help the enemies that get in the way of Lady Hawke's morning craving for pickled nugs dipped in Nutella.]

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Saraphial wrote...

Unless Kirkwall has an excellent daycare I don't think this will work out well. If Hawke does have a child it will probably be something they mention in the epilogue. Something like "After His/her many travels and perilous endeavors there was finally peace and the champion of Kirkwall was able to live with his/her beloved. They soon had a family and lived happily ever after blah blah blah."


If Hawke has family around, not just Bethany and with all those "estates", then the child can stay with them.

It may have been a joke from mister Gaider, that 10 years is a long time, and things might happen, but there may have been some truth in there as well. Who knows?

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nightcobra8928 wrote...

Avilia wrote...

Perhaps. I suppose my fear is that DA2 will turn into Fable. Which I hated. I understand others like that and that's good. Just isn't to my taste is all :)


which is why i added this to my statement:

(fable2=bad example, lufia2 rise of the sinistrals while simple, handled it better)


I will have to look the second game up, its a new one on me.

I wasn't aware you could have children in DAO?  Or is my bad memory playing tricks on me again?  Oh - the OGB?  I never do the DR so I forgot about it (is that the baby you mean?)

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Avilia wrote...

nightcobra8928 wrote...

Avilia wrote...

Perhaps. I suppose my fear is that DA2 will turn into Fable. Which I hated. I understand others like that and that's good. Just isn't to my taste is all :)


which is why i added this to my statement:

(fable2=bad example, lufia2 rise of the sinistrals while simple, handled it better)


I will have to look the second game up, its a new one on me.

I wasn't aware you could have children in DAO?  Or is my bad memory playing tricks on me again?  Oh - the OGB?  I never do the DR so I forgot about it (is that the baby you mean?)


Him, too, although it's possible that he's simply a mortal baby. As a male Dwarf Noble you can knock up a chick right before you're exiled. When you become casteless later, so does the child and mother, and you can choose to deal with their situation. You also name him.

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Ah - right. I play females so I forgot that too. How funny all the babies in DAO are caused by male PCs. Which makes sense I suppose in relation to the points raised here about female Hawkes being pregnant.

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Avilia wrote...

nightcobra8928 wrote...

Avilia wrote...

Perhaps. I suppose my fear is that DA2 will turn into Fable. Which I hated. I understand others like that and that's good. Just isn't to my taste is all :)


which is why i added this to my statement:

(fable2=bad example, lufia2 rise of the sinistrals while simple, handled it better)


I will have to look the second game up, its a new one on me.

I wasn't aware you could have children in DAO?  Or is my bad memory playing tricks on me again?  Oh - the OGB?  I never do the DR so I forgot about it (is that the baby you mean?)


as to lufia2 you plays as the parents of the hero in the first lufia, maxim and selan, there's still quite a few people with fond memories of their moments.

as for origins, yes the OGB is the baby he/she meant though you didn't have any attachment to it since you never interact with the kid or even meet him.

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nightcobra8928 wrote...
you'd be surprised, in the art of war, there are only two moments in a year where it's viable to send an army to war.

Of course. When the enemy is at their weakest and when they're preoccupied. Pregnancy achieves both

You assume a lot about the plot. You assume there are never moments of lull. Presumably nothing interesting happens in timeskips. If nothing interesting is happening, it doesn't hurt if Lady Hawke isn't fighting.

Nah, of course there will be lulls. But a lull that lasts for nearly a year? But 9 months in which no animals attack, no demons invade, no serial killers go nuts, no refugee gets a bit too desperate, nobody contemplates rape, and you're not under siege by the most advanced and ferocious nation in Thedas seems a bit ridiculous. Oh, and let's not forget the Antivan Crows, surely somebody will have the money to have the Crows assassinate the "Most Important Person In Thedas" while she's at her weakest.;)

Modifié par Oblivious, 12 septembre 2010 - 10:47 .