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[Russalka]

Sure, a commander would send an army to Kirkwall because a random person from Ferelden is having a baby-leave.

Modifié par Russalka, 12 septembre 2010 - 10:46 .

[nightcobra]

Oblivious wrote...

nightcobra8928 wrote...
you'd be surprised, in the art of war, there are only two moments in a year where it's viable to send an army to war.

Of course. When the enemy is at their weakest and when they're preoccupied. Pregnancy achieves both

You assume a lot about the plot. You assume there are never moments of lull. Presumably nothing interesting happens in timeskips. If nothing interesting is happening, it doesn't hurt if Lady Hawke isn't fighting.

Nah, of course there will be lulls. But a lull that lasts for nearly a year? But 9 months in which no animals attack, no demons invade, no serial killers go nuts, no refugee gets a bit too desperate, nobody contemplates rape, and you're not under siege by the most advanced and ferocious nation in Thedas seems a bit ridiculous. Oh, and let's not forget the Antivan Crows, surely somebody will have the money to have the Crows assassinate the "Most Important Person In Thedas" while she's at her weakest.

enemy CO:their commander is pregnant!, she's in no shape to battle, they're at their weakest, ATTACK!!!

enemy grunt: but sir, their leader already assigned their best troops to be led by her companions and to reinforce the city, if anything sir they are at their best right now to protect their champion and her kid.

enemy CO: nonsense, the only enemy we need to defeat is hawke!!

moments later....


enemy army is destroyed, pulverized, turned to mush, etc

[Saibh]

Oblivious wrote...

nightcobra8928 wrote...
you'd be surprised, in the art of war, there are only two moments in a year where it's viable to send an army to war.

Of course. When the enemy is at their weakest and when they're preoccupied. Pregnancy achieves both

You assume a lot about the plot. You assume there are never moments of lull. Presumably nothing interesting happens in timeskips. If nothing interesting is happening, it doesn't hurt if Lady Hawke isn't fighting.

Nah, of course there will be lulls. But a lull that lasts for nearly a year? But 9 months in which no animals attack, no demons invade, no serial killers go nuts, no refugee gets a bit too desperate, nobody contemplates rape, and you're not under siege by the most advanced and ferocious nation in Thedas seems a bit ridiculous. Oh, and let's not forget the Antivan Crows, surely somebody will have the money to have the Crows assassinate the "Most Important Person In Thedas" while she's at her weakest.

Nine months is bare minimal. You really think you're going to get ten years worth of game time out of it? An entire decade on that disk, down to the last second? There will be timeskips, and nine months is a pretty short one.

Again, you are assuming that the plot doesn't have large gaps or that there isn't a plot reason to stay home even if you don't have a kid. I'm going to assume the game doesn't just let you play nine months of doing nothing if you're not pregnant, and the time would be skipped anyway. Also, it doesn't need to be the full trimesters--unplanned pregnancies can go three to even four months without being realized, and some women are very active during it.

[Anarya]

Saibh wrote...

Oblivious wrote...

nightcobra8928 wrote...
you'd be surprised, in the art of war, there are only two moments in a year where it's viable to send an army to war.

Of course. When the enemy is at their weakest and when they're preoccupied. Pregnancy achieves both

You assume a lot about the plot. You assume there are never moments of lull. Presumably nothing interesting happens in timeskips. If nothing interesting is happening, it doesn't hurt if Lady Hawke isn't fighting.

Nah, of course there will be lulls. But a lull that lasts for nearly a year? But 9 months in which no animals attack, no demons invade, no serial killers go nuts, no refugee gets a bit too desperate, nobody contemplates rape, and you're not under siege by the most advanced and ferocious nation in Thedas seems a bit ridiculous. Oh, and let's not forget the Antivan Crows, surely somebody will have the money to have the Crows assassinate the "Most Important Person In Thedas" while she's at her weakest.

Nine months is bare minimal. You really think you're going to get ten years worth of game time out of it? An entire decade on that disk, down to the last second? There will be timeskips, and nine months is a pretty short one.

Again, you are assuming that the plot doesn't have large gaps or that there isn't a plot reason to stay home even if you don't have a kid. I'm going to assume the game doesn't just let you play nine months of doing nothing if you're not pregnant, and the time would be skipped anyway. Also, it doesn't need to be the full trimesters--unplanned pregnancies can go three to even four months without being realized, and some women are very active during it.

Yeah you can go 3 months or so without showing. It would only really have to be a 6-7ish month timeskip which isn't that much, really. Not that I'm advocating or opposing children, just pointing that out.

[Russalka]

Wiki says that half-dwarves happen between humans and dwarves, but they are rare.

[Lisa_H]

Saraphial wrote...

Unless Kirkwall has an excellent daycare I don't think this will work out well. If Hawke does have a child it will probably be something they mention in the epilogue. Something like "After His/her many travels and perilous endeavors there was finally peace and the champion of Kirkwall was able to live with his/her beloved. They soon had a family and lived happily ever after blah blah blah."

Hawke will be one of the most important persons. Important people in the medieval times usually did not raise their children alone. It was even common that noble women used wet-nurses instead of breast-feeding their babies themselves.

[OriginsIsBest]

Hawke can't have children, the beard prevents it.

And if the player is female, Hawke's leg hair prevents it.

[Onyx Jaguar]

I am not very receptive of parenting in game



In fact if there was a forced romance I would find that **** whack man...



I always do



SAY NO TO FINAL FANTASY 8

[Russalka]

They haven't had forced romance before, why would they now?

[Onyx Jaguar]

Well I imagine that something with such weight in a Bioware game would almost cause you to *have* to have a romance. I mean its no Fable where your children are meaningless.

[Collider]

Russalka wrote...
They haven't had forced romance before, why would they now?

Bioware has kind of forced romances in their games before. If you talk to Ashley as Male Shepard, you have to be mean to her or else the game assumes you're romancing her. I also heard there's a similar case with Bastila in KOTOR, but I'm not sure if that's actually true.

Fortunately I have little reason to fear of ninjamances in DA2. The writers have already stated that dialog options that lead to flirting or romance are designated with an obvious label.

[Russalka]

Having a child in DA:O was only but one of many options. As was hardening Leliana and Alistair, if that could be used to compare.



There will no doubt be many outcomes to the adventures and choices of Hawke. If some nice companion comes a long and the timeshifts fit it in and the family could take care of any offspring, then why not?

[Lord_Valandil]

Hmmm...
I still don't see it working. I mean, Lady Hawke has a baby and then throw him/her to somebody else's arms, so she can continue fighting and exploring the world.
What's the point, then?
I can see it working as an epilogue, however.

Modifié par Lord_Valandil, 12 septembre 2010 - 07:35 .

[SirShreK]

Lord_Valandil wrote...

Hmmm...
I still don't see it working. I mean, Lady Hawke has a baby and then throw him/her to somebody else's arms, so she can continue fighiting and exploring the world.
What's the point, then?
I can see it working as an epilogue, however.

And good riddance for lady Hawke for 5 years (at least) until the brat/bratette can become independent.

My soap opera senses begin tingling when I imagine the son(s)/daughter(s)/androgynous offspring/ complaining how the mother/father abandoned her/him/it/them for pursuit of adventure... So there.....

[nightcobra]

Lord_Valandil wrote...

Hmmm...
I still don't see it working. I mean, Lady Hawke has a baby and then throw him/her to somebody else's arms, so she can continue fighiting and exploring the world.
What's the point, then?
I can see it working as an epilogue, however.

kirkwall is considered to be a hub for the game, so that pretty much tells you that you'll be going there lots of times and your child could be taken care of by hawke's mother so being absent from home is more your choice than anything else.

[Russalka]

We don't even know the story though, how this option could shape the storyline.

What we can do is suggest.



I could see it as something to remind Hawke he is a mortal man, if there is a rise to power. They wouldn't have planned a child with the woman he was with, but it happened (needn't be a companion, FAQ suggested non-companion romance). Now Hawke would need to not just defend the people of Kirkwall from danger, but also his closest family. Or he could just continue with his rash choices, gain power, be ambitious and lose everything.

[Lord_Valandil]

Russalka wrote...

We don't even know the story though, how this option could shape the storyline.
What we can do is suggest.

I could see it as something to remind Hawke he is a mortal man, if there is a rise to power. They wouldn't have planned a child with the woman he was with, but it happened (needn't be a companion, FAQ suggested non-companion romance). Now Hawke would need to not just defend the people of Kirkwall from danger, but also his closest family. Or he could just continue with his rash choices, gain power, be ambitious and lose everything.

It COULD work, as long as it doesn't turn in a cliche, like...
Oh noez, the enemy army has invaded Kirkwall, you have to choose between saving your family or the innocent people!!

nightcobra8928 wrote...

Lord_Valandil wrote...

Hmmm...
I still don't see it working. I mean, Lady Hawke has a baby and then throw him/her to somebody else's arms, so she can continue fighiting and exploring the world.
What's the point, then?
I can see it working as an epilogue, however.

kirkwall is considered to be a hub for the game, so that pretty much tells you that you'll be going there lots of times and your child could be taken care of by hawke's mother so being absent from home is more your choice than anything else.

Well, of course. As long as it doesn't turn into Fable 2.

Modifié par Lord_Valandil, 12 septembre 2010 - 07:50 .

[nightcobra]

 here's the lufia2 scene i was talking about, i know it's full of cheesiness (well, it's a jrpg...) and some clichés (well it's an old rpg to boot, so i can be easy on them for that), but whenever i see those two it gives off that heartwarming feel, maybe it's just nolstagia goggles or just me but if there's someone who can make this "having a child" thing work it's bioware:wizard:.

[nightcobra]

bump



(also just heard that lufia2 is being remade for ds, yay)

[Kastlefeer]

Forgive me I did not read the whole thread, but consider a solution to unwanted pregnancy ... "bum sex" ... there you go, I know not everyone's cup of tea but it's the truth.

[Ortaya Alevli]

Kastlefeer wrote...

Forgive me I did not read the whole thread, but consider a solution to unwanted pregnancy ... "bum sex" ... there you go, I know not everyone's cup of tea but it's the truth.

Maker's breath...

[Nerdage]

Well there's your answer, people...

[zero.squall]

They do have condoms in Thedas, don't they?

[nightcobra]

zero.squall wrote...

They do have condoms in Thedas, don't they?

nah, but just put an enchantment on it and you'll be fine:devil: