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[Vandrayke]

nightcobra8928 wrote...

Vandrayke wrote...

lol I sure hope not

honestly if pregnancy became a significant part of the game I probably wouldn't buy it

even if:

-having a child being optional

-pregnancy of hawke/LI during timeskip

-not part of the main plot, but still important

if it was easily avoidable and not much time was spent on it then I wouldn't care

But basically I'd want it to be insignificant enough that the people who want it probably wouldn't think it was significant enough.  

I don't think there's anything wrong with it.  It's just a turnoff in media for me.  I wouldn't get all mad about it and act indignant; I'd just say "oh well" and buy something else

[Lisa_H]

I can not see why so many people are against it, even if it is opptional. Romaces have been explored in games, friendship as well. Parent-child adds a new dimension, and can give many good rolepalying opportunities and emotional involvment. But of course it should be opptional.

For me it would also make up for the Alistair+Warden = No children. Which according to me made it impossible to have a really good ending.

[nhsk]

Lisa_H wrote...

I can not see why so many people are against it, even if it is opptional. Romaces have been explored in games, friendship as well. Parent-child adds a new dimension, and can give many good rolepalying opportunities and emotional involvment. But of course it should be opptional.
For me it would also make up for the Alistair+Warden = No children. Which according to me made it impossible to have a really good ending.

My problem with isn't whether it is there or not, it is the outrageous thing that people want it to have major impact on the story aka. plot. If that happens it becomes a requirement to have said child and not an option.

Fine if it gives a sidequest or two.

[Vandrayke]

Lisa_H wrote...

I can not see why so many people are against it, even if it is opptional. Romaces have been explored in games, friendship as well. Parent-child adds a new dimension, and can give many good rolepalying opportunities and emotional involvment. But of course it should be opptional.
For me it would also make up for the Alistair+Warden = No children. Which according to me made it impossible to have a really good ending.

I dunno.  I guess that since pregnancy and babies are everywhere, and since I have no interest in those topics at the moment, I am kind of irrationally irritated by the whole idea whenever it creeps into areas that are usually baby-free.  

[Vandrayke]

I mean I guess that when I'm in the mood for fantasy, I'm in the mood for escapist adventure. And that to me is not getting women pregnant and playing house.

[Vandrayke]

I mean it sounds like some people want the Fantasy Sims

[Scalett Dragonavicious]

Vandrayke wrote...

I mean it sounds like some people want the Fantasy Sims

Hey thats gonna be a game too. "Medieval Sims"

Anyway, I read this whole thing, sorry I'm late to the discussion, but I'm not understanding why people are being weird about this. Bioware is an excellent company and there whole stories are usually about choices. And as David Gaider said, 10 years is a long time. Perhaps they'll let us marry our love interests and start a family, who knows really. But I feel one thing is certain, Bioware is going to let us choose if we want to or not. Maybe one of the love interests demands you get married or they won't stay with you. Maybe this character wants to settle down and have children and if you turn them down they'll break it off with you.

And there could be those Morrigan type characters who don't want to settle down and if you ask them to be loyal to only you they might leave.

I'm sure that it will be one of those choices that is important but not canon, maybe it will spawn sidequests, maybe it will end up costing you money, who really knows, but I think that Bioware could definitely do and stay loyal to the feel of their games.

[Vandrayke]

I think that if the game would span like 20 years or so and allow you to have an adult kid who could be a usable party member, I'd be in favor of it. I just don't want pregnancy/little tikes present in the game at all.

[Russalka]

Some people do.

[Vandrayke]

Well no kidding. And I'm not discounting them at all, simply stating my preferences

[Russalka]

Good then, let's hope we can keep it a healthy pro et contra topic then.

If the trolls wouldn't rain in with nappy achievements and pregnancy armour from time to time.

[nightcobra]

Russalka wrote...

Some people do.

like myself, besides...kirkwall is a hub/party camp for DA2 so your kid can stay there with hawke's mother.
rpg heroes normally never constitute a family (and if they do, it's only at the end screen and that just isn't satisfying anymore much like the interesting but lackluster epilogue screens from origins) and i think it should be a matter to be explored.

Modifié par nightcobra8928, 14 septembre 2010 - 06:12 .

[Collider]

If F!Hawke gets pregnant, you get a game over screen. True story.



I reiterate: the best way to implement Haweke having a family is to do so at the end of the game.



Also, I don't really like the idea of Hawke having a child who becomes a party member. For one thing, unless Hawke is forced into a romance (shudder), that's placing too much content on optional romance - not to mention that some players are gay or lesbian. So they are going to miss out on a party member because their Hawke isn't interested in the opposite sex?

[Russalka]

We haven't suggested babies as companions here, have we?

[Vandrayke]

Collider wrote...

If F!Hawke gets pregnant, you get a game over screen. True story.

I reiterate: the best way to implement Haweke having a family is to do so at the end of the game.

Also, I don't really like the idea of Hawke having a child who becomes a party member. For one thing, unless Hawke is forced into a romance (shudder), that's placing too much content on optional romance - not to mention that some players are gay or lesbian. So they are going to miss out on a party member because their Hawke isn't interested in the opposite sex?

good points, for sure.  

[nhsk]

Well, it could be interesting in a game to have a father and son go to war together, then we could have all the emotional crap when the son loses his temper and goes off alone to kill the villain just because said villain had the brilliant idea to burn a village church with the villagers locked inside, the sons newly wed wife being among them... :-)

[Collider]

Russalka wrote...

We haven't suggested babies as companions here, have we?

nope
but I was responding to this:

I think that if the game would span like 20 years or so and allow you to
have an adult kid who could be a usable party member, I'd be in favor
of it.

[Saint Joel]

Well let just say in game if Hawke chance for one night stand in some Villege/city, he come back 4 year later, and behold he has son or daughter.

[Vandrayke]

nhsk wrote...

Well, it could be interesting in a game to have a father and son go to war together, then we could have all the emotional crap when the son loses his temper and goes off alone to kill the villain just because said villain had the brilliant idea to burn a village church with the villagers locked inside, the sons newly wed wife being among them... :-)

werd this is kind of what I was thinking.  Or the daughter who wants to fight too kind of thing.  

[Meyne]

nhsk wrote...

Well, it could be interesting in a game to have a father and son go to war together, then we could have all the emotional crap when the son loses his temper and goes off alone to kill the villain just because said villain had the brilliant idea to burn a village church with the villagers locked inside, the sons newly wed wife being among them... :-)

You'd need to find a voice actor that sounded close enough to Heath Ledger for that though... 

[nhsk]

Meyne wrote...
You'd need to find a voice actor that sounded close enough to Heath Ledger for that though... 

Yeah well, it doesn't really have to happen this way but something like that. :]

Do you a) save world, save progeny c) go have a beer or d) run away screaming "watch out for the eagle, it bites"

[Lisa_H]

Vandrayke wrote...

I mean it sounds like some people want the Fantasy Sims

I don't want fantasy sims. I just find it strange that if my Hawke meets somone the first years in the game and over ten years passes and they never have children. As some people think they find it strange to have children in game. I would find my Hawke strange if she doesn't want to have children during that time

But I don't want fantasy sims, I want the story, the fighting and exploration. Everything that is Dragon Age. Children would just allow me to roleplay a character I could identify with.

[nightcobra]

Lisa_H wrote...

Vandrayke wrote...

I mean it sounds like some people want the Fantasy Sims

I don't want fantasy sims. I just find it strange that if my Hawke meets somone the first years in the game and over ten years passes and they never have children. As some people think they find it strange to have children in game. I would find my Hawke strange if she doesn't want to have children during that time

But I don't want fantasy sims, I want the story, the fighting and exploration. Everything that is Dragon Age. Children would just allow me to roleplay a character I could identify with.

QFT

[Ortaya Alevli]

Russalka wrote...

Good then, let's hope we can keep it a healthy pro et contra topic then.
If the trolls wouldn't rain in with nappy achievements and pregnancy armour from time to time.

That was uncalled for.

Sadly 10 years is too short to have a child old enough to impact the story with his/her decisions, but fortunately for us, we have other family members (most notably Bethany) who would be used to create similar dramatic effects. Bethany taking off for a rescue/revenge mission against Hawke's wishes, getting in trouble etc. Assuming BioWare will entertain the idea of Hawke having children, I can't see any child of Hawke growing past the toddler stage and doing anything worth a plot twist. Hard to justify introduction of children in the story except as a dramatic element. There is simply not much to do with a baby in a RPG; either they'll be kidnapped/killed/whatever or just sit down there somewhere.