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Is Lady Hawke fertile/Can we have children?


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Taint Master wrote...

LOL I guess people aren't very receptive to the idea of parenting in a game...


I'd say you phrased your question wrong, which would have worked better as "Can we get married/have children?". Not saying everyone would be open to the idea, but it's an...odd way to ask, "Is Lady Hawke fertile?"

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Saibh wrote...

That would imply that Morrigan's romance is complete within a few days of meeting her. Which isn't how it works.


What are you getting at?

I'm not sure I follow at all, are you saying I'm wrong because I want to play as Lady Hawke, I want to have romances (with sex) but want to skip pregnancies if they are unwanted for the playthrough because that isn't how it works in real life?

No seriously, on the Xbox the achievements for romances first time you sleep with whatever character.

I really don't want to drag around with a kid in a game because it's "realistic"

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Taint Master wrote...

LOL I guess people aren't very receptive to the idea of parenting in a game...

I am i want a Qunari kidImage IPB

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Saibh wrote...

Taint Master wrote...

LOL I guess people aren't very receptive to the idea of parenting in a game...


I'd say you phrased your question wrong, which would have worked better as "Can we get married/have children?". Not saying everyone would be open to the idea, but it's an...odd way to ask, "Is Lady Hawke fertile?"

Alright I'll change the title.

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I wonder how they'd make that work.

All I imagine is Fable 2, and well...eh.

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Taint Master wrote...

LOL I guess people aren't very receptive to the idea of parenting in a game...

From David Gaider's UStream comments I fully expect that it will be possible to have a long-term romance in DA2, possibly leading to a family.

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nhsk wrote...

Saibh wrote...

That would imply that Morrigan's romance is complete within a few days of meeting her. Which isn't how it works.


What are you getting at?

I'm not sure I follow at all, are you saying I'm wrong because I want to play as Lady Hawke, I want to have romances (with sex) but want to skip pregnancies if they are unwanted for the playthrough because that isn't how it works in real life?

No seriously, on the Xbox the achievements for romances first time you sleep with whatever character.

I really don't want to drag around with a kid in a game because it's "realistic"


She means the romances aren't "done" when you get the achievement. Morrigan and Zevran are easy to get to your tent but they don't love you until late in the romance and if you stop after the first time you have sex you really haven't experienced their respective romances at all.

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Taint Master wrote...

LOL I guess people aren't very receptive to the idea of parenting in a game...


You would have to conceive right at the start of the ten years unless you would want to carry a baby on your back.This whole deal seems rather unlikely even knowing the fact that the companions you meet do have homes they go back to regularly which would be providing a possible living space in theory.

______ :which is confirmed by Gaider btw.

Modifié par MoneyDeluxe, 10 septembre 2010 - 07:22 .


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[quote]Anarya wrote...

What are you getting at?

I'm not sure I follow at all, are you saying I'm wrong because I want to play as Lady Hawke, I want to have romances (with sex) but want to skip pregnancies if they are unwanted for the playthrough because that isn't how it works in real life?

No seriously, on the Xbox the achievements for romances first time you sleep with whatever character.

I really don't want to drag around with a kid in a game because it's "realistic"

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She means the romances aren't "done" when you get the achievement. Morrigan and Zevran are easy to get to your tent but they don't love you until late in the romance and if you stop after the first time you have sex you really haven't experienced their respective romances at all.

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Yes, exactly that. :D Thank you.

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If we ever get the ability to make a Qunari, I'm going to name mine Nets.

He will have max Trap-Making.
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And be utterly useless.

/ZING!

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Anarya wrote...

She means the romances aren't "done" when you get the achievement. Morrigan and Zevran are easy to get to your tent but they don't love you until late in the romance and if you stop after the first time you have sex you really haven't experienced their respective romances at all.


I know about that, but one way or another am I wrong for not wanting forced kids if I happen to want a romance as Lady Hawke?

Btw yes I got Morrigans ring on two playthroughs, second because I screwed up and didn't get the sorrow and regret so redid the playthrough allthough with another type of character (mage instead of warrior)... But meh I shudder with the thoughts of having kids forced upon you, Fable2 family sucked but at least gave you a way of preventing it.

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nhsk wrote...

Anarya wrote...

She means the romances aren't "done" when you get the achievement. Morrigan and Zevran are easy to get to your tent but they don't love you until late in the romance and if you stop after the first time you have sex you really haven't experienced their respective romances at all.


I know about that, but one way or another am I wrong for not wanting forced kids if I happen to want a romance as Lady Hawke?

Btw yes I got Morrigans ring on two playthroughs, second because I screwed up and didn't get the sorrow and regret so redid the playthrough allthough with another type of character (mage instead of warrior)... But meh I shudder with the thoughts of having kids forced upon you, Fable2 family sucked but at least gave you a way of preventing it.

I've never played Fable, how did they handle it?

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Why not? Give female Hawke a few weeks after the labor and she'll be up and about kicking serious darkspawn/Qunari/whatever ass. Maybe even sooner. I mean, this is BioWare we're talking about. You guys remember what happened with Aerie in Throne of Bhaal? You'd get to impregnate her and she'd deliver a child during an adventure that would generally take A COUPLE OF MONTHS. So yeah.

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nhsk wrote...

I know about that, but one way or another am I wrong for not wanting forced kids if I happen to want a romance as Lady Hawke?


No but I don't think either Saibh or I was arguing for forced kids.

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A couple of delicately phrased "hm, interesting question -- next!" responses from devs have seemed to imply that Hawke, male or female, may indeed have the chance to be a parent over the course of the game's ten years.



I could be reading too much into it, but that's the impression I've gotten.

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This is a good question and the OP has a valid point. If Hawkette starts the game say 20 or so, by the time the game ends she'll be 30. We don't have any reason to think she'll live 200 years, so that's a good chunk of her life right there. I'm thinking she would want to have a kid or two by then. PLUS, we know she's going to end up running the show up in Kirkwall.... and a major duty of any sovereign is to provide for the succession.

Unless I play her all Justinian-like and have have her fall in love with a male prostitute (I'm sorry "actor") and end up childless though well loved, and close to no one but Varric at the end.


I would love a BioWare comment in here.

Modifié par RinpocheSchnozberry, 10 septembre 2010 - 07:29 .


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A Qunari helping Lady Hawke raise a child would be interesting. Fighting from the money the baby can walk lol.

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nhsk wrote...

Anarya wrote...

She means the romances aren't "done" when you get the achievement. Morrigan and Zevran are easy to get to your tent but they don't love you until late in the romance and if you stop after the first time you have sex you really haven't experienced their respective romances at all.


I know about that, but one way or another am I wrong for not wanting forced kids if I happen to want a romance as Lady Hawke?

Btw yes I got Morrigans ring on two playthroughs, second because I screwed up and didn't get the sorrow and regret so redid the playthrough allthough with another type of character (mage instead of warrior)... But meh I shudder with the thoughts of having kids forced upon you, Fable2 family sucked but at least gave you a way of preventing it.


I don't want forced kids either, but I was just surprised you assumed that being in a romance automatically implied you had sex--as if they raped you. You said that the romance wasn't finished until you had sex, I said that wasn't true, and something got lost there.

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I would love a BioWare comment in here.




Bioware response (any similarity to actual dev is coincidental): Snarky comment, followed by sarcasm in a dismissive tone and finally a "You'll have to wait and see"

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RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

This is a good question and the OP has a valid point. If Hawkette starts the game say 20 or so, by the time the game ends she'll be 30. We don't have any reason to think she'll live 200 years, so that's a good chunk of her life right there. I'm thinking she would want to have a kid or two by then. PLUS, we know she's going to end up running the show up in Kirkwall.... and a major duty of any sovereign is to provide for the succession.

I would love a BioWare comment in here.


Wow... wait a sec... she can be a mother after 30... no need to rush things, especially motherhood B)

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Taint Master wrote....

I've never played Fable, how did they handle it?


Badly, you couldn't really pursue romantic relations, only bribe someone with gifts to like you but even worse than BW. No dialogue other than some random comments. When you got famous enough you wouldn't even have to bribe someone with gifts, half of the people in the only town worth mentioning would follow you around with a heart over their hearts saying they loved you, asking why they hadn't got a ring yet etc. really creepy stalker style.

You could then give them a wedding ring (those with the <3 above their heads) and you were married. You then had to buy a house to move into, still without dialogue (which in fact doesn't exist in fable). You could then use an emote called "come back to my place" and they would follow you to your bed (prostitutes would also follow by this) and you could then have sex by interacting with the bed.

Now you had the chance to say "protected sex" or "unprotected sex" although the first was only available if you had condoms in the inventory. If you had unprotected sex while married you would automatically produce a child and that would spawn magically in small bed without pregnancy periods. Said child would after one trip out of town and back have grown to around the age of 5 and follow you around in the city or going around with the other parent.

If your spouse died a magically appearing child protecting agency would remove your children (you could have up to two) no matter where in the world it happened, so if you happened to have an evil kid (their alignment based on yours) they would be removed even though you were out of law enforcements way (like sacrificing your spouse at the Temple of Shadows at midnight for one of the best blades available in the game.

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RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...
PLUS, we know she's going to end up running the show up in Kirkwall.... and a major duty of any sovereign is to provide for the succession.


I dunno -- as we saw in Origins, inheriting rule by blood is contrary to tradition in at least in one culture of Thedas, and the "Viscount" title in Kirkwall is a relic of a past system -- have devs confirmed that the title is inheritable? Fan speculation I saw was that Hawke would marry into the title, but he could just as well seize it or win it by acclamation.

Given that either a male or female Hawke is selectable, I think saddling LadyHawke and her alone with "Squeeze out an heir or else!" would be pretty awkward for the storyline.

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Kyda wrote...

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

This is a good question and the OP has a valid point. If Hawkette starts the game say 20 or so, by the time the game ends she'll be 30. We don't have any reason to think she'll live 200 years, so that's a good chunk of her life right there. I'm thinking she would want to have a kid or two by then. PLUS, we know she's going to end up running the show up in Kirkwall.... and a major duty of any sovereign is to provide for the succession.

I would love a BioWare comment in here.


Wow... wait a sec... she can be a mother after 30... no need to rush things, especially motherhood B)

Well she is gonna be the Champion of Kirkwall.she would have servants to take care of the babyImage IPB 

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To the people mentioning "forced kids" if you slept with Morrigan at any point you are forced to have a child with her regardless. In all honesty I think I would prefer it that way. I mean having a dialogue wheel of options on when/where to conceive would be kinda silly.

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Kyda wrote...

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

This is a good question and the OP has a valid point. If Hawkette starts the game say 20 or so, by the time the game ends she'll be 30. We don't have any reason to think she'll live 200 years, so that's a good chunk of her life right there. I'm thinking she would want to have a kid or two by then. PLUS, we know she's going to end up running the show up in Kirkwall.... and a major duty of any sovereign is to provide for the succession.

I would love a BioWare comment in here.


Wow... wait a sec... she can be a mother after 30... no need to rush things, especially motherhood B)

Waiting to have kids until after your thirties is an extremely modern phenomenon. It doesn't really make sense in a pseudo-medieval setting, IMO. Granted, Lady Hawke will be busy and maybe not plan to settle down at all, but considering she'll be reaching a position of power I'd have thought that it would be prudent of her to have kids earlier rather than later.

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Can we, as a community, now agree that "Hawkette" is the preferred term over "Lady Hawke?"

Cool, thanks.