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[nhsk]

Saibh wrote...

I don't want forced kids either, but I was just surprised you assumed that being in a romance automatically implied you had sex--as if they raped you. You said that the romance wasn't finished until you had sex, I said that wasn't true, and something got lost there.

Fair enough, was just really puzzled. Wasn't thinking about that Morrigan and Zevran started out with sex, kinda.. - But then again, after you had sex with Morrigan once you didn't really have it again until DR so kids would come from the first time 

[Gill Kaiser]

nhsk wrote...

Badly, you couldn't really pursue romantic relations, only bribe someone with gifts to like you but even worse than BW. No dialogue other than some random comments. When you got famous enough you wouldn't even have to bribe someone with gifts, half of the people in the only town worth mentioning would follow you around with a heart over their hearts saying they loved you, asking why they hadn't got a ring yet etc. really creepy stalker style.

You could then give them a wedding ring (those with the <3 above their heads) and you were married. You then had to buy a house to move into, still without dialogue (which in fact doesn't exist in fable). You could then use an emote called "come back to my place" and they would follow you to your bed (prostitutes would also follow by this) and you could then have sex by interacting with the bed.

Now you had the chance to say "protected sex" or "unprotected sex" although the first was only available if you had condoms in the inventory. If you had unprotected sex while married you would automatically produce a child and that would spawn magically in small bed without pregnancy periods. Said child would after one trip out of town and back have grown to around the age of 5 and follow you around in the city or going around with the other parent.

If your spouse died a magically appearing child protecting agency would remove your childs (you could have up to two) no matter where in the world it happened, so if you happened to have an evil kid (their alignment based on yours) they would be removed even though you were out of law enforcements way (like sacrificing your spouse at the Temple of Shadows at midnight for one of the best blades available in the game.

Yeah, this kind of thing has never been Fable's strong suit. At least the option was there, though.

Hopefully Fable 3 will be better in this regard, considering the protagonist is voiced this time around. I believe the player can still marry anyone though, so perhaps not.

Modifié par Gill Kaiser, 10 septembre 2010 - 07:38 .

[Taint Master]

nhsk wrote...

Taint Master wrote....

I've never played Fable, how did they handle it?

Badly, you couldn't really pursue romantic relations, only bribe someone with gifts to like you but even worse than BW. No dialogue other than some random comments. When you got famous enough you wouldn't even have to bribe someone with gifts, half of the people in the only town worth mentioning would follow you around with a heart over their hearts saying they loved you, asking why they hadn't got a ring yet etc. really creepy stalker style.

You could then give them a wedding ring (those with the <3 above their heads) and you were married. You then had to buy a house to move into, still without dialogue (which in fact doesn't exist in fable). You could then use an emote called "come back to my place" and they would follow you to your bed (prostitutes would also follow by this) and you could then have sex by interacting with the bed.

Now you had the chance to say "protected sex" or "unprotected sex" although the first was only available if you had condoms in the inventory. If you had unprotected sex while married you would automatically produce a child and that would spawn magically in small bed without pregnancy periods. Said child would after one trip out of town and back have grown to around the age of 5 and follow you around in the city or going around with the other parent.

If your spouse died a magically appearing child protecting agency would remove your children (you could have up to two) no matter where in the world it happened, so if you happened to have an evil kid (their alignment based on yours) they would be removed even though you were out of law enforcements way (like sacrificing your spouse at the Temple of Shadows at midnight for one of the best blades available in the game.

Oh wow.  Yeah that sounds pretty bland overall, heh.  I never got why Fable was always so highly rated.

[DarthCaine]

A question whether Hawke can be a parent was asked in the PAX chats with David Gaider. He said maybe, although it didn't sound as if it was true

[nhsk]

Taint Master wrote...

To the people mentioning "forced kids" if you slept with Morrigan at any point you are forced to have a child with her regardless. In all honesty I think I would prefer it that way. I mean having a dialogue wheel of options on when/where to conceive would be kinda silly.

You don't ever have to deal with the consequences of said child in the main game. There is a huge difference.

[Gill Kaiser]

DarthCaine wrote...

A question whether Hawke can be a parent was asked in the PAX chats with David Gaider. He said maybe, although it didn't sound as if it was true

I imagine he would have just said no if it weren't true. A maybe is as good as a yes, IMO. Of course, it could be something that happens in the game's epilogue, or maybe Hawke has the choice of adopting an orphaned kid as part of the storyline or something.

[Fishy]

nhsk wrote...

Well, condoms are not a modern invention.

Otherwise, dragon punch

True .. But it's was a luxury during mediaval time (i think  , don't quote me  on that)
It's was more the coit coit thing.

Modifié par Suprez30, 10 septembre 2010 - 07:43 .

[DarthCaine]

Gill Kaiser wrote...

DarthCaine wrote...

A question whether Hawke can be a parent was asked in the PAX chats with David Gaider. He said maybe, although it didn't sound as if it was true

I imagine he would have just said no if it weren't true. A maybe is as good as a yes, IMO. Of course, it could be something that happens in the game's epilogue, or maybe Hawke has the choice of adopting an orphaned kid as part of the storyline or something.

Nah, he said maybe to a lot of things, he just avoided straight answers. The only thing he said no to was Sten

[nhsk]

Taint Master wrote...

Oh wow.  Yeah that sounds pretty bland overall, heh.  I never got why Fable was always so highly rated.

To be fair, Fable II is quite a good game story and decision wise but the family part is worthless and the stalkers drove my second playthrough to evil incarnate, regularily decimating entire towns population because I got tired of the stalkers (who would continue to follow you despite you were already married)

And I normally always paragade it, trying to be evil in some games like Kotor and JE but always fail at it, not in Fable.

Modifié par nhsk, 10 septembre 2010 - 07:48 .

[NamiraWilhelm]

She could use her pregnancy rage as a sort of beserker power



It would be interesting i guess, but the dude who knocked her up would have to be house husband so she could continue to be awesome.



Or while shes on maternity leave, get my warden to take over...

[BroBear Berbil]

Maybe she'll have a kid.....in an epilogue. I doubt they'd go through the trouble of making a whole family sim and half-dwarf children.

There's the whole aspect of depicting violence against children in games which would pretty much mean if having a child was an option it'd be something like Fable. I don't think that really does much for the story. Also, one would think that the other parent would be a companion so would said companion have to act as a stay-at-home mom/dad?

Maybe Hawke, male or female, isn't sterile but I just don't see kids as being an option as it just opens up a whole host of issues.

Modifié par OnionXI, 10 septembre 2010 - 08:00 .

[ErichHartmann]

Will there be a steamy sex scene too?

[Urrinor]

You could have argued that it would be an influence in her fighting. That would make it more interesting, like a -Stat. jk



Regarding the baby issue, I would rather have the option. I don't really feel like taking my in-game time to raise a child I think, though it depends strongly on the "with who?" question. But problably I wouldn't do it if I had the option. Children means targets! So your political enemies could threaten your child (SOIAF) and you couldn't just let them die.

[Lady_Scarlett]

Urrinor wrote...

You could have argued that it would be an influence in her fighting. That would make it more interesting, like a -Stat. jk

Regarding the baby issue, I would rather have the option. I don't really feel like taking my in-game time to raise a child I think, though it depends strongly on the "with who?" question. But problably I wouldn't do it if I had the option. Children means targets! So your political enemies could threaten your child (SOIAF) and you couldn't just let them die.

Horrible thing about babies, toddlers and kids-- always get into the worst part of politics, and they're not even all grown up. And opitional would be ideal-- I want a character who hates the little ones and steals their cookies and cake at one time.

Modifié par Lady_Scarlett, 10 septembre 2010 - 08:11 .

[epoch_]

distinguetraces wrote...

A couple of delicately phrased "hm, interesting question -- next!" responses from devs have seemed to imply that Hawke, male or female, may indeed have the chance to be a parent over the course of the game's ten years.

I could be reading too much into it, but that's the impression I've gotten.

I imagine the relationship building, both with your LI(s) and friendships, is going to be one of the highlights. The game spanning 10 years really opens up a lot of opportunity they didn't previously have.

[SirOccam]

You won't get pregnant unless the story calls for it (if it's possible at all), so if you do get pregnant, it will be a big influence on the story. It's not like they'd have you give birth and the extent of it is there's now a kid following you around.

[epoch_]

SirOccam wrote...

You won't get pregnant unless the story calls for it (if it's possible at all), so if you do get pregnant, it will be a big influence on the story. It's not like they'd have you give birth and the extent of it is there's now a kid following you around.

If you get pregnant it's game over. You've ruined your life, and you're no longer able to adventure because you have a child to care for.

[Saibh]

DarthCaine wrote...

Gill Kaiser wrote...

DarthCaine wrote...

A question whether Hawke can be a parent was asked in the PAX chats with David Gaider. He said maybe, although it didn't sound as if it was true

I imagine he would have just said no if it weren't true. A maybe is as good as a yes, IMO. Of course, it could be something that happens in the game's epilogue, or maybe Hawke has the choice of adopting an orphaned kid as part of the storyline or something.

Nah, he said maybe to a lot of things, he just avoided straight answers. The only thing he said no to was Sten

No, he answered a lot of our questions. And, actually, the answer wasn't just "maybe", it was more along the lines of "Ten years is a long time".

[Ciryx]

Why do you think this thread would get locked?
The question itself after all IS reasonable and not really out of this world. Not even new for a video game, as Fable 2 did this already.
Watching the Trailer and everything we got so far, i dont think it will fit into overall storytheme that well, but i could be wrong and if Bioware is great at something, than its Storys.

The problem with this thread are very immature persons posting here not considering something like parenthood reasonable and with the due thougtfulness.

Modifié par Ciryx, 10 septembre 2010 - 08:29 .

[ErichHartmann]

Ciryx wrote...

Why do you think this thread would get locked?
The question itself after all IS reasonable and not really out of this world. Not even new for a video game, as Fable 2 did this already.
Watching the Trailer and everything we got so far, i dont think it will fit into overall storytheme that well, but i could be wrong and if Bioware is great at something, than its Storys.

The problem with this thread are very immature persons posting here not considering something like parenthood reasonable and with the due thougtfulness.

The Sims is right up your alley.  Have all the kids you want!

[HoonDing]

OP should play the upcoming Fable 3, if (s)he is interested in becoming the ruler of a nation while also conceiving as many offspring as wanted. 

[Taint Master]

ErichHartmann wrote...

Ciryx wrote...

Why do you think this thread would get locked?
The question itself after all IS reasonable and not really out of this world. Not even new for a video game, as Fable 2 did this already.
Watching the Trailer and everything we got so far, i dont think it will fit into overall storytheme that well, but i could be wrong and if Bioware is great at something, than its Storys.

The problem with this thread are very immature persons posting here not considering something like parenthood reasonable and with the due thougtfulness.

The Sims is right up your alley.  Have all the kids you want!

Well, if the writers choose to make Hawke barren that would be an easy way of avoiding the issue (like the Wardens in DAO). 

In DAO you could sleep with quite a few people, male and female.  If Hawke is able to reproduce, and can have as many or more partners, it wouldn't be that far fetched to expect a pregnancy to result, would it?

[Ciryx]

ErichHartmann wrote...

Ciryx wrote...

Why do you think this thread would get locked?
The question itself after all IS reasonable and not really out of this world. Not even new for a video game, as Fable 2 did this already.
Watching the Trailer and everything we got so far, i dont think it will fit into overall storytheme that well, but i could be wrong and if Bioware is great at something, than its Storys.

The problem with this thread are very immature persons posting here not considering something like parenthood reasonable and with the due thougtfulness.

The Sims is right up your alley.  Have all the kids you want!

I didnt say i want a kindergarten.  But thanks for the tip!

[Bryy_Miller]

annihilator27 wrote...

How long yall think this will last.

It's the new Bethany thread!