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[addiction21]

Dave of Canada wrote...

lv12medic wrote...

Wouldn't a pregnant lady Hawke require extra dialogue options like "wildly fluctuating hormones" option?

Well It could work like...
"You're pregnant." 
"NO WAI"

And then there's a huge timeskip for 6-7 (considering they could just hide the pregnancy / not make it show for 2-3 months) months of the ten years.

Todays quest will be to find some chocolate pickle walnut icecream.

[Jarek_Cousland]

I could see it being an ending thing, where we cant choose to have the kid until near the end.



Cause honestly I'd rather not have a kid near the beginning of the game and basically leave the kid to go on countless adventures and what not.





It'd be like a middle ages version of a latchkey kid.

[RandomSyhn]

The possibility of a child in DA 2 leaves alot of intresting story plots. though I'm not sure if it would be Hawke's child, though I think that dynamic could still be shown through Auntie/Uncle Hawke.

[SirGladiator]

It'd be interesting to see how my Lady Hawke and the Pirate Lady (or whichever lady she ends up with) would have a child together, that could definitely make the game more interesting. I would think it wouldn't 'have' to have a downside, like for example at the end of one of the time frames, before the 'time jump' or whatever you call it, you and your LI get married and then during the time jump you have a child together, by the time the time jump ends presumably the child could be a year or so old already, and you've been a good parent so far, staying at home and helping raise the child, so if you have to leave for a few days or a few weeks, whatever it is, to help save the world and protect your family, maybe leave your LI behind with the child, and of course you might also have family there to help also. It'd be kind've like somebody in the Army, except they tend to be gone for like years, not just days or weeks, so it'd still be a lot sweeter deal than our real life American Heroes go through all the time. And then at the end of the time frame, before the next time jump (if there is another one) you could return to your LI and child in a heartwarming reunion scene, and spend the next couple years or so helping raise the child again, before the next round of adventuring. Who knows, maybe you could even have a couple situations you could help resolve, where you 'teach' the child either to be good and help others, or to be 'bad' and be selfish, something like that, that could be pretty fun.



I think something like that could be pretty realistic and cool, although there definitely should be a question, before the marriage and the time jump, where you and your LI talk about whether or not you want children, and if you don't then there would be no child, just so that something like that isn't 'forced' on you, it should be totally optional. And of course in the case of Lady Hawke and the Pirate Lady, not just 'whether' to have a child, but 'which one' would have it . Presumably they'd need some kind of magic or something for that anyway, maybe kind've like Morrigan's magic, who knows, but it'd be fun to find out .

[Knight Templar_]

That seems hard to do, and easy to screw up.

[Lord_Valandil]

Knight Templar wrote...

That seems hard to do, and easy to screw up.

I agree. I didn't like the system in Fable 2. Way too ridiculous and buggy.
My wife was always leaving me, although I never cheated on her.
It would be cool as an epilogue, I guess, as I don't see it's importance in the overall story.

[Knight Templar_]

Lord_Valandil wrote...

Knight Templar wrote...

That seems hard to do, and easy to screw up.

I agree. I didn't like the system in Fable 2. Way too ridiculous and buggy.
My wife was always leaving me, although I never cheated on her.
It would be cool as an epilogue, I guess, as I don't see it's importance in the overall story.

I don't think it would be overly hard to do for a guy, although it would more than likely be cringe levels of bad. I was thinking it would be so much effort as to not bother for women. They are doing most, well all of the work here, and forces you out of combat for months and thats just the start.

For something that huge to be optional tells me it would not get the effort needed to make it work. A guy can just say "screw that" and walk away, a girl, not so much.

[Inquisitor Recon]

Waste of development time if you ask me.

[Maconbar]

I think they should handle having a baby as a mini-game, like the ones they had in KOTOR for hacking computers.



On a more serious note. Maybe if Bethany has a child, Bethany becomes unavailable to the party for a bit. Could apply to other characters.

[Darthnemesis2]

Kinda to tag along with (part of) what Maconbar said, what if it was Beth who had a kid instead of Hawke? You'd still get the whole 'bad guy taking the child' bit, but without having to put hawke (or rather hawkette) through the whole being pregnant thing. I know that they could do a time skip instead, but this would also allow Hawke to continue adventuring while Beth took care of the kid.

Just a thought.

[Lord_Valandil]

Darthnemesis2 wrote...

Kinda to tag along with (part of) what Maconbar said, what if it was Beth who had a kid instead of Hawke? You'd still get the whole 'bad guy taking the child' bit, but without having to put hawke (or rather hawkette) through the whole being pregnant thing. I know that they could do a time skip instead, but this would also allow Hawke to continue adventuring while Beth took care of the kid.
Just a thought.

Y'now Beth, I...had a little "romance", and I think I screwed it. Would you take care of the baby for me? Just a couple of months while I'm saving the world.

[Lord_Valandil]

ewokvsduck wrote...

time and money that could be spent getting a Lady Hawke trailer or nug bombs or something better than a snot nosed brat who will eventually resent you and probably join the Grey Wardens to spite your non-warden ways.

I could hug you just because of that.
Finally the Nug Bombs are receiving some love.

[Maconbar]

ewokvsduck wrote...

I don't see the point, there is really no way that Lady Hawke or Male Hawke could be a decent parent. So you have a kid, okay but then you're always adventuring, running into situations that may or may not cause your death leaving your one and only beloved little munckin mini Hawke in the care of your family(assuming they survive)? So every few months you can return home and share a few bits of dialog and this child can grow up feeling neglected and unloved because mommy or daddy would rather smash in darkspawn skulls than take care of their own child. I suppose it would have some appeal but I hope that Hawke has better things to do than have a child he/she can't really raise, like killing things. Plus it's a gameplay mechanic that would cost time and money, time and money that could be spent getting a Lady Hawke trailer or nug bombs or something better than a snot nosed brat who will eventually resent you and probably join the Grey Wardens to spite your non-warden ways.

Not necessarily that different an experience for some children in Medieval Europe. I am guessing that people didn't wait to go on crusades or fight in other countries until all the kids were in college.

[Maconbar]

ewokvsduck wrote...

True enough I suppose but really I'm guessing Hawke's list of epic adventuring is slightly longer than the average Medieval European parent.

True but don't forget Hawke's story in DA:2 is a series of snaphots of the main events over this 10-year period. He will have downtime.

[Taint Master]

Cool the thread got reopened!

ewokvsduck wrote...

I don't see the point, there is really no way that Lady Hawke or Male Hawke could be a decent parent. So you have a kid, okay but then you're always adventuring, running into situations that may or may not cause your death leaving your one and only beloved little munckin mini Hawke in the care of your family(assuming they survive)? So every few months you can return home and share a few bits of dialog and this child can grow up feeling neglected and unloved because mommy or daddy would rather smash in darkspawn skulls than take care of their own child. I suppose it would have some appeal but I hope that Hawke has better things to do than have a child he/she can't really raise, like killing things. Plus it's a gameplay mechanic that would cost time and money, time and money that could be spent getting a Lady Hawke trailer or nug bombs or something better than a snot nosed brat who will eventually resent you and probably join the Grey Wardens to spite your non-warden ways.

Wow, that's... a lot of negativity, lol!  It doesn't have to turn out that badly.

[StrawberryViking]

I'm surprised no one mentioned abandoning the kid via chantry doorstep or something, it's one of the biggest fantasy cliches in the book. Either gender Hawke will have to someday come back and reveal to their child who they actually are etc. because...I don't know, someone is out to get them?



But on a less...depressing topic, I personally think that Hawke actually rearing the child itself would be a welcome change. Though whether Hawke leaves their child behind with occassional visits in between, or he/she takes them with them on their travels can make a big difference. But it seems like a plausible, if at all better, change, as opposed to the previously cited example, Fable II.



In Fable, there was no real relationship to speak of with your spouse, and subsequently, you didn't care much for your generic kids. But Bioware has proven to be masterful at the art of creating interesting characters that you learn to love, and/or hate. With this in mind, it's a good opportunity to create a truly memorable video-gaming experience, virtual children and all (though I think I'll pass on the diaper changing min-games)

[DMC12]

If Hawke has kids, you know they are just going to get killed. Nothing says "character and plot developement" like infanticide, which is then followed by copious amounts of carnage due to parental rage towards the offender(s).

[Dave of Canada]

DMC12 wrote...

If Hawke has kids, you know they are just going to get killed. Nothing says "character and plot developement" like infanticide, which is then followed by copious amounts of carnage due to parental rage towards the offender(s).

Doubt it. They are trying to be different with family members not dying 5 seconds in.

[DMC12]

Dave of Canada wrote...

DMC12 wrote...

If Hawke has kids, you know they are just going to get killed. Nothing says "character and plot developement" like infanticide, which is then followed by copious amounts of carnage due to parental rage towards the offender(s).

Doubt it. They are trying to be different with family members not dying 5 seconds in.

Well the game does span 10 years, and I just know that there's going to be plenty of significant NPC deaths. Some characters you can just smell their death coming, like your Cousland nephew. You just know that Pennywise the Clown is totally going have him run through when he mentions wanting to, "see a sword upclose".

Hawke's potential kids already have that scent on them... But I'm still hoping for surprises.

[Dave of Canada]

DMC12 wrote...
like your Cousland nephew. You just know that Pennywise the Clown is totally going have him run through when he mentions wanting to, "see a sword upclose".

I still laugh at that line.

Does that make me a monster?

[DMC12]

Dave of Canada wrote...

DMC12 wrote...
like your Cousland nephew. You just know that Pennywise the Clown is totally going have him run through when he mentions wanting to, "see a sword upclose".

I still laugh at that line.

Does that make me a monster?

Nope, just means that you're unattached. Which is probably why you're right, they won't kill off everyone you meet in 5 seconds. Get some tension growing and whatnot.

[Ortaya Alevli]

Dave of Canada wrote...

2. Doubt there's diapers on Thedas.

I know they will be rid of them in DA2 and all, but still it was too difficult to resist.

The infanticide idea would probably "force" Hawke to have a child. I mean, it's too strong an element to leave as an optional story branch. Loss of one's child is arguably the most unbearable pain one can face in their life, and Hawke would never be the same again. The entire demeanor and mindset would have to change. Implementing such drastic "optional" changes would require, well, resources and all that. Doesn't seem feasible from where I'm standing.