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[Graz73]

Check it out:

www.gamasutra.com/view/news/30143/Analysis_On_FemSheps_Popularity_In_Mass_Effect.php

[Collider]

Interesting article. Thank you.

[MugenJustice]

What I did not expect was my sudden attachment to the female incarnation of Commander Shepard—fondly referred to as FemShep around the web—during the first game and my continued connection in the second.

^Sums it all up very well.  Exactly how I felt when I started a FemShep.  Lovin' her more every time I play.

Modifié par MugenJustice, 10 septembre 2010 - 09:00 .

[Inquisitor Recon]

Yet didn't Bioware's statistics show FemShep is significantly less popular than this article would lead us to believe?

[OneDrunkMonk]

I like both male and female Shepards but a lot about FemShep just seems to work in Mass Effect. But really, with the Jack romance option only available to MaleShep I'm 50/50 on which version I prefer.

[Inquisitor Recon]

I've never been able to bring myself to play a FemShep, are there any differences in normal dialogue?

[theelementslayer]

ReconTeam wrote...

I've never been able to bring myself to play a FemShep, are there any differences in normal dialogue?

Well not to start a flame war but in the first game Hale VA is much better, and a touch better then Meer in ME2, though this is due to meer getting much better and Hale only improving a little bit. But yes there are a few lines, which I wont say, that she does have that are unique to her.

[Inquisitor Recon]

From the video clips I've seen I just can't stand her voice for some unknown reason. Anybody else feel the same?

[MugenJustice]

ReconTeam wrote...

Yet didn't Bioware's statistics show FemShep is significantly less popular than this article would lead us to believe?

I think those stats are skewed.  I have a MaleShep.  Great, that means I'm part of that 80%.  But what about the two FemSheps I created?

ReconTeam wrote...

I've never been able to bring myself to play a FemShep, are there any differences in normal dialogue?

It's all in the delivery of the lines. 

And no, I don't find her annoying at all.  Jennifer Hale's voicework is excellent.

Modifié par MugenJustice, 10 septembre 2010 - 09:17 .

[vjellu]

I'm one of those players who find it hard to play with character of opposite gender. Atleast in games like Mass Effect which has story in big role.

[vjellu]

Ugh it came as double post..

Modifié par vjellu, 10 septembre 2010 - 09:23 .

[Miths]

ReconTeam wrote...


From the video clips I've seen I just can't stand her voice for some unknown reason. Anybody else feel the same?

Blasphemy! :happy:

Jennifer Hale has an amazing voice. Pleasant, strong and sexy. In fact Hale is pretty much the sole reason why FemShep is the only Shepard I can play.

[Woodstock-TC]

i love her voice. feels exactly right for the character.
as for popularity, i couldnt imagine the resident evils with a male movie-char either as it draws much of the suspension from a relatively fragile sexy looking char being able to kick severly ass.
there are plenty other movies where that wouldnt be a viable option as well, so it just depends. For ME both works out perfectly, i just get more suspension out of it playing a relatively fragile char in "kickass" mode or so to speak

Modifié par Woodstock-TC, 10 septembre 2010 - 09:28 .

[Jebel Krong]

MugenJustice wrote...

ReconTeam wrote...

Yet didn't Bioware's statistics show FemShep is significantly less popular than this article would lead us to believe?

I think those stats are skewed.  I have a MaleShep.  Great, that means I'm part of that 80%.  But what about the two FemSheps I created?

i think they can account for that obviously it's based on total numbers, so 8/10 shepards are male.

[theelementslayer]

Jebel Krong wrote...

MugenJustice wrote...

ReconTeam wrote...

Yet didn't Bioware's statistics show FemShep is significantly less popular than this article would lead us to believe?

I think those stats are skewed.  I have a MaleShep.  Great, that means I'm part of that 80%.  But what about the two FemSheps I created?

i think they can account for that obviously it's based on total numbers, so 8/10 shepards are male.

I would disagree. They said 80% played as a male shep. They never said 80% of all playthroughs were male. Plus you take a survey done by AngryFrozenWarrior, and it comes out that about 75% played as a maleshep one time or another out of about 1000 votes. It extrapolates and works out to be well, conclusive.

I dont want to sound like a dick but read the wording of that statement very carefully. It said 80% played as a male shep. Not exclusive, not average, nothing like that.

[MugenJustice]

Jebel Krong wrote...

MugenJustice wrote...

ReconTeam wrote...

Yet didn't Bioware's statistics show FemShep is significantly less popular than this article would lead us to believe?

I think those stats are skewed.  I have a MaleShep.  Great, that means I'm part of that 80%.  But what about the two FemSheps I created?

i think they can account for that obviously it's based on total numbers, so 8/10 shepards are male.

No, it stated 80% of players used a MaleShep.  Not 80% of the characters were MaleShep.


Edit: D'oh, beaten by theelementslayer by 2 minutes. 

Modifié par MugenJustice, 10 septembre 2010 - 09:33 .

[Thompson family]

Jennifer Hale is an extremely talented voice actress. I'd go so far as to say that if it wasn't for Hale's performance, I would have had no sympathy for Bastila in Knights of the Old Republic. That character could easily have come off as unpleasantly spoiled and arrogant. Hale gave the performance just the right touch, showing those unpleasant traits fully and still rendering an engaging performance. Therefore, I liked the character.



I think the Mass Effect statistic we're all talking about here is a little misunderstood. As I recall, the stat is that 80 percent of players have played MaleShep. It does not say how many have played both.



Considering this, that means 20 percent of players are FemShep players — exclusively.



I'd bet that many of the 80 percent who've played MaleShep play MaleShep only, but I don't know how many. I'd bet there are more "exclusively" MaleShep players that FemShep players, but I don't know.



However, we do know that 20 percent of FemShep players are FemShep only.



So what does that mean? I don't know — other than FemShep has a large and loyal following.

[Comrade Bork]

theelementslayer wrote...

Well not to start a flame war but in the first game Hale VA is much better, and a touch better then Meer in ME2, though this is due to meer getting much better and Hale only improving a little bit.

Plain and simple that is just opinion. I feel that it is the opposite (excluding Jacob/Femshep dialog...ewww)

[aapiix]

FemShep is a kind of heroine like featured nowhere else. There you'd have the archetype female characters of the video games like TombRaider and whatnot and come on, they're ridiculous.
I first played a male Shepard but in my dubbed European version of the game, his voice actor did sound so laughabe that I switched to a FemShep and finished the game with it.

Plus, a FemShep-Liara relationship must be the most compelling video game love story ever.

Modifié par aapiix, 10 septembre 2010 - 09:37 .

[wolfsite]

Miths wrote...

ReconTeam wrote...


From the video clips I've seen I just can't stand her voice for some unknown reason. Anybody else feel the same?

Blasphemy! :happy:

Jennifer Hale has an amazing voice. Pleasant, strong and sexy. In fact Hale is pretty much the sole reason why FemShep is the only Shepard I can play.

^ This.  Hale's VA really drew me into the story and game and she just made it feel much more believable.

[theelementslayer]

Comrade Bork wrote...

theelementslayer wrote...

Well not to start a flame war but in the first game Hale VA is much better, and a touch better then Meer in ME2, though this is due to meer getting much better and Hale only improving a little bit.

Plain and simple that is just opinion. I feel that it is the opposite (excluding Jacob/Femshep dialog...ewww)

Apologies, yes I should have stated it is an opinion. But feel opposite in which way?

[HBC Dresden]

Anyone hate the person named Tadhg Kelly in the comments section of the article?

But this whole issue of only 20% of players used Femshep (we must be one loud-ass minority) may not mean the vast majority does not like playing a female protagonist (counter-point: Tomb Raider), but that Bioware needs to show Femshep in marketing (stepping stone: showing a pic of Lady Hawke). If half of players did not finish the game, I bet many did not know female was an option due to marketing.

Modifié par HBC Dresden, 10 septembre 2010 - 09:40 .

[Jebel Krong]

theelementslayer wrote...

Jebel Krong wrote...

MugenJustice wrote...

ReconTeam wrote...

Yet didn't Bioware's statistics show FemShep is significantly less popular than this article would lead us to believe?

I think those stats are skewed.  I have a MaleShep.  Great, that means I'm part of that 80%.  But what about the two FemSheps I created?

i think they can account for that obviously it's based on total numbers, so 8/10 shepards are male.

I would disagree. They said 80% played as a male shep. They never said 80% of all playthroughs were male. Plus you take a survey done by AngryFrozenWarrior, and it comes out that about 75% played as a maleshep one time or another out of about 1000 votes. It extrapolates and works out to be well, conclusive.

I dont want to sound like a dick but read the wording of that statement very carefully. It said 80% played as a male shep. Not exclusive, not average, nothing like that.

MugenJustice wrote...

No, it stated 80% of players used a MaleShep.  Not 80% of the characters were MaleShep.


Edit: D'oh, beaten by theelementslayer by 2 minutes.  [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/pinched.png[/smilie]

you can try picking semantics in choices of words/phrases all you want, if it makes you feel better - the facts and statistics are clear. a forum poll is never going to be representative or unbiased as the general market by very definition.

[MugenJustice]

aapiix wrote...

FemShep is a kind of heroine like featured nowhere else. There you'd have the archetype female characters of the video games like TombRaider and whatnot and come on, they're ridiculous.
I first played a male Shepard but in my dubbed European version of the game, his voice actor did sound so laughabe that I switched to a FemShep and finished the game with it.

Plus, a FemShep-Liara relationship must be the most compelling video game love story ever.

Agreed to everything above. 


And I finished my FemShep playthrough of LotSB last night.  Quite satisfied with how BioWare handled FemShep/Liara's rekindled relationship.

[HBC Dresden]

@ Jebel Krong you know that Mass Effect gamers not on Xbox Live can't be counted in the statistics, right? Always, the words describing the statistics were not that clear, i.e. this mini debate.

Modifié par HBC Dresden, 10 septembre 2010 - 09:42 .