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The whole "I can't play a chick because I'm a guy and it would be ooky" argument smacks of insecurity, frankly.

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clennon8 wrote...

The whole "I can't play a chick because I'm a guy and it would be ooky" argument smacks of insecurity, frankly.

I'm a guy and I prefer Femshep :wizard:

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Fhaileas wrote...

You may have your opinion that MaleShepard has better voice acting... but it is wrong.


What?

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kraidy1117 wrote...

clennon8 wrote...
The whole "I can't play a chick because I'm a guy and it would be ooky" argument smacks of insecurity, frankly.

I'm a guy and I prefer Femshep :wizard:

And you are not alone. Apparently it's because we're really into lesbians and mistake insulting stereotypes for empowerment. Which is kind of funny, because I found FemShep approached with some maturity as opposed to an overt empowerment goal. She's a Marine, and a damn good one. That the fact FemShep is female is incidental to her role is exactly why it works for me. Is she Ripley, the iconic kick-ass female sci-fi hero of my childhood? No, and no-one else ever will be. But she's damn well more than good enough.

Oh. And she got attached to Garrus last time, so either this "lesbian fetish" thing is way off or I really need to work on my gender identification skills.

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kraidy1117 wrote...

clennon8 wrote...

The whole "I can't play a chick because I'm a guy and it would be ooky" argument smacks of insecurity, frankly.

I'm a guy and I prefer Femshep :wizard:


Same here, although I've played both.  The Talimance is the best romance in the game after all.  My favorite romances as FemShep are Liara and Thane.

Mark Meer gets a bad rap, btw.  His voice acting is fine, just not as good as Jennifer Hale's.

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clennon8 wrote...

The whole "I can't play a chick because I'm a guy and it would be ooky" argument smacks of insecurity, frankly.


So just because most males prefer to play as a MALE we are insecure? Sound logic.

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So just because most males prefer to play as a MALE we are insecure? Sound logic.

That's the clumsiest, least complete reading of that sentence I've ever seen.

It depends on why.

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clennon8 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

clennon8 wrote...

The whole "I can't play a chick because I'm a guy and it would be ooky" argument smacks of insecurity, frankly.

I'm a guy and I prefer Femshep :wizard:


Same here, although I've played both.  The Talimance is the best romance in the game after all.  My favorite romances as FemShep are Liara and Thane.

Mark Meer gets a bad rap, btw.  His voice acting is fine, just not as good as Jennifer Hale's.

I think Liara's romance is the best and I simply can't stand Meer when he does romance dialog. He is good at renagade lines and some paragon lines, but when it comes to romance dialog, I just can't stanbd it. Big reason I ship Femshep and liara romance, simply because I love Liara and Hale does a good job with the romance dialog.

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Gibb_Shepard wrote...

clennon8 wrote...

The whole "I can't play a chick because I'm a guy and it would be ooky" argument smacks of insecurity, frankly.


So just because most males prefer to play as a MALE we are insecure? Sound logic.


It's fine if you prefer to play as a male Shep, but as soon as you start intimating that guys who like to play as FemShep must be gay or something, that smacks of insecurity on your part.  Plenty of straight guys like playing as FemShep.

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clennon8 wrote...

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

clennon8 wrote...

The whole "I can't play a chick because I'm a guy and it would be ooky" argument smacks of insecurity, frankly.


So just because most males prefer to play as a MALE we are insecure? Sound logic.


It's fine if you prefer to play as a male Shep, but as soon as you start intimating that guys who like to play as FemShep must be gay or something, that smacks of insecurity on your part.  Plenty of straight guys like playing as FemShep.

This. It's the same with men who do the Male romances, I love Thane and Kai, that does not make me gay, it means that that some of us enjoy good characters and writing.

Modifié par kraidy1117, 13 septembre 2010 - 07:26 .


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wizardryforever wrote...

lyssalu wrote...

dw man dink is a dude (it's actually really obvious,)

and no, there's no double standard.  you're pooping out of your mouth a lot by saying that

first of all,

you're assuming

that all women who disagree with something a man says

have the same ~world view~

and secondly,

there is backlash at the testosterone fueled comment coming from you, so your entire argument is ludicrous,

i mean

are you even thinking,

you're sitting here screaming double standard

because supposedly no one takes offense to females screaming testosterone

and yet

here you are

i just

i don't get it man

lmao what dink said though

is just the funniest thing,

like, really?  what about femshep is insecure?

do you guys not understand that femshep and maleshep have the exact same lines.............................i

i can't do this anymore

no wait,

i'm still so offended by the lesbian comment that i can barely think

dink do you have a problem with space lesbians what is your deal


What's with the horrible formatting and grammar errors?  Are they truly necessary to belittle my opinion without any supporting evidence? :bandit:

Nowhere did Dinkamus say what gender they are, so an assumption that they are male is just that, an assumption.  Also, I specifically targeted FemShep players who are probably women (can't make that assumption though).  They are the ones who frequently respond to any anti-FemShep comment claiming it's "testosterone fueled."  They are the ones I have a problem with, not women in general.  Although Dinkamus may have used some rather unfortunate language, they are probably like me, fed up with misandry masquerading as feminism and they see that in FemShep.  I don't see FemShep in quite those terms, though I understand where they are coming from. 

And by the way, when I say "backlash," I mean a widespread backlash that the majority of people participate in.  If a man told a woman that her argument was "estrogen fueled," his sexism would be recognized by everyone and his credibility ruined.  However, the reverse is not true, hence the double standard.


i don't feel like i need to push the shift key in order to impress you, babe

i know dink is a guy

it wasn't assumption (although perhaps on the part of the other poster it was, but this is a non-issue to begin with)

because on the other hand, a testosterone fueled post doesn't have to be made by a man

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"Although Dinkamus may have used some rather unfortunate language, they are probably like me, fed up with misandry masquerading as feminism and they see that in FemShep."

see, that was the issue.  his wording was obtrusively sexist and homophobic, which was why it garnered the response that it did.  you're acknowledging that his wording was offensive by saying that it was "unfortunate," so i don't understand why you're defending it.  see, it wasn't just any anti-femshep comment, it was an offensive one, as you've so pointedly agreed.  what he said and what you're assuming he meant, by the way, are two entirely different things.  and no, to clarify, "kick ass women" and "insecurity" are in no way a part of the feminist agenda.

your backlash argument is still v lol so,

i'm dismissing it

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Christmas Ape wrote...

So just because most males prefer to play as a MALE we are insecure? Sound logic.

That's the clumsiest, least complete reading of that sentence I've ever seen.
It depends on why.


and that is the most unnecessary, moronic and frankly retarded reply i've ever seen.

the fanboyism in this thread is strong, i'll take my leave.

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Gibb_Shepard wrote...

Christmas Ape wrote...

So just because most males prefer to play as a MALE we are insecure? Sound logic.

That's the clumsiest, least complete reading of that sentence I've ever seen.
It depends on why.

and that is the most unnecessary, moronic and frankly retarded reply i've ever seen.
the fanboyism in this thread is strong, i'll take my leave.

Aww, muffin.

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lyssalu wrote...

i don't feel like i need to push the shift key in order to impress you, babe


It's not about impressing people, it's about learning how to use proper english and not making yourself look like an idiot.

Modifié par easygame88, 13 septembre 2010 - 07:44 .


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easygame88 wrote...

lyssalu wrote...

i don't feel like i need to push the shift key in order to impress you, babe


It's not about impressing people, it's about learning how to use proper english and not making yourself look like an idiot.


oh hey someone who takes the internet srsly,

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gosh, this thread is a sh*tfest



why isn't it locked already

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mashavasilec wrote...

gosh, this thread is a sh*tfest

why isn't it locked already


where is your grammar masha did you lose it too

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easygame88 wrote...

lyssalu wrote...

i don't feel like i need to push the shift key in order to impress you, babe


It's not about impressing people, it's about learning how to use proper english and not making yourself look like an idiot.

So if you don't know how to use proper english, your an idiot? Wow......

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lyssalu wrote...

mashavasilec wrote...

gosh, this thread is a sh*tfest

why isn't it locked already


where is your grammar masha did you lose it too


omg

*embarassed blushing*

i'd like to seek forgiveness of all the good folks in here 

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easygame88 wrote...

lyssalu wrote...

i don't feel like i need to push the shift key in order to impress you, babe


It's not about impressing people, it's about learning how to use proper english and not making yourself look like an idiot.


Lol fallback 

Image IPB

(you should always capitalize English btw)

Modifié par Radahldo, 13 septembre 2010 - 07:57 .


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mashavasilec wrote...

lyssalu wrote...

mashavasilec wrote...

gosh, this thread is a sh*tfest

why isn't it locked already


where is your grammar masha did you lose it too


omg

*embarassed blushing*

i'd like to seek forgiveness of all the good folks in here 


not today, masha

not today

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Dink's ability to raise tensions is unsurpassed, that's for sure

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Radahldo: Your avatar kind of looks like Sam Neill playing Zaeed, which makes it awesome.

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mashavasilec wrote...

Dink's ability to raise tensions is unsurpassed, that's for sure

It always happens. Wished the fool would stop making alt accounts.

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Christmas Ape wrote...

Radahldo: Your avatar kind of looks like Sam Neill playing Zaeed, which makes it awesome.

Very.