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[syllogi]

Considering how much people wanted more conversation options with the characters we already have, adding brand new characters in ME3 would just be disappointing. I don't doubt that Bioware *could* create awesome new characters that many people would enjoy, but they also could flesh out the characters we already have met, and add new dimensions to their personalities. I loved the tidbits of info about our squadmates we learned at the end of LotSB, for instance, and would like some of those new revelations followed up upon in ME3.



I know that we might not get them all back, but how disappointing it would be if all 17 of our former teammates were reduced to cameos in the next game. No amount of flashy new characters would make up for that.

[Captain Crash]

I actually dont want anyone else. If players got their squad mates killed in ME2 then that should be their own downfall. I want to build the relationships I already have and not waste even more time building meeting people when I know I can call on Tali, Garrus, Kasumi, Liara, Kaiden ect at any time!



Yeah Shepard is popular and obviously likes meeting people, but there comes a limit.

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

Quaay wrote...

Brodyaha wrote...

There's a reason I did all of those loyalty missions.
If BioWare needs to introduce some shiny new characters as squadmates for ME3, then it should be with NPCs we met in ME2 or ME1. It's the end of the trilogy; make the game count.

Yea I would hope any "new" ppl would be those we already know like Gianna Parasini or Shiala or whoever.

IIRC a while ago someone stated that there maybe a potential squadmate in ME3 that was in ME2. So I would imagine that to be someone like Aria, Shiala, Wreav or Kal'Reegar. Those I would be happy with because we've already seen them. To some extent it makes sense as they would kind of be like the 'Lando' of the Trilogy.

At least with them we have had some of their story already so no new 'character building' is really required.

If they can't bring back the ME2 squadmates because they can die, then Shiala and Kal will not be used since they can die.

Yes and of course, the DLC that has potential to help bridge the gap between ME2 and ME3 should have no real mention of the squadmates eh? Oh wait, the first one of them already has.

That's like saying that Kaidan and Ashley shouldn't have been in ME2 because one of them could be dead in ME.

My previous comment was just an assumption. It made sense to include them in the list because they were 'combatants' but out of the ones I mentioned, Aria probably stands out the most because just as Lando owned Cloud City, Aria is Omega

Edit : @TeenZombie 17? Erm, 16 and that is even counting the person who was Virmired so, at max there is 15 potential squadmates from the ME and ME2 squads. So if there was just 1 new squadmate that would replace the Virmired one.

Modifié par Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien, 11 septembre 2010 - 12:40 .

[syllogi]

Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

Edit : @TeenZombie 17? Erm, 16 and that is even counting the person who was Virmired so, at max there is 15 potential squadmates from the ME and ME2 squads. So if there was just 1 new squadmate that would replace the Virmired one.

Counting Morinth (and yes, she does have fans) there are 17 potentials, not that they can all be in the same place at the same time.  I just noted that there are a LOT of characters already to pick and choose from, and loads of potential for new stories there.

[havoc373]

no new squad mates just stick with the people you have now.



the only new squad mate i will accept is anderson.

[Terraneaux]

I like the idea someone mentioned for a Batarian squadmate, that would be pretty sweet.



But more depth on the existing characters deserves primacy.

[fongiel24]

I want to see a few new faces. I want the ME3 squad to be like the ME2 squad, where there is a mix of old and new squadmates but the ME3 squad should be weighted more towards the old than the new. It's a little unrealistic to expect nobody new to join up as Shepard will be fighting new enemies in new environments and it's inevitable that somebody will want to join him (or her). Knowing Bioware, they're likely to come up with some awesome characters in ME3 and I already know I'd be bummed out if I couldn't get any of them to tag along.

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

TeenZombie wrote...

Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

Edit : @TeenZombie 17? Erm, 16 and that is even counting the person who was Virmired so, at max there is 15 potential squadmates from the ME and ME2 squads. So if there was just 1 new squadmate that would replace the Virmired one.

Counting Morinth (and yes, she does have fans) there are 17 potentials, not that they can all be in the same place at the same time.  I just noted that there are a LOT of characters already to pick and choose from, and loads of potential for new stories there.

Yes but just like Ash/Kaidan she shares a 'spot' with Samara. Not saying they are the same person, just stating that obviously you can't have them all, thus you've only got 15 squadmates from ME2 that the player could potentially have unless of course you didn't do Samara's loyalty mission so that Morinth is still alive, but somehow if that were the case I doubt that a: Samara will be coming back as she'll go back to hunting Morinth and b: if Samara was still there am sure you'd still have to get round to making the choice between the two.

As I was saying myself, some complete and utter new person. No, I don't want to see that, it is the 3rd part of the trilogy and no good trilogy introduces a new hero to the team. Only chance of that is if the person played a part in the 2nd part, hence my comment about Aria, Kal and Shiala  the latter of course who has actually been in both the first two

Edit: @Terraneaux Ahh yes... Batarians... the race that a few Shepards should most likely love to hate after what happened in their past. A Batarian would need to have a super strong backstory/reason for Shep to recruit them considering that. So with that in mind and with us being in the 3rd part of the Trilogy I doubt that is gonna happen.

Modifié par Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien, 11 septembre 2010 - 01:04 .

[crimsoncobra57]

Yahg party member please!
Er.. Just kidding
I have to admit, some of the members gathered in ME2 may not stick around. Just according to their personality.

I was typing up a big list of people I'd like to see, and reasons.. Then I just decided to make a list lol.

Would love to see return in ME3:
LIARA
Samara
Garrus
Wrex + Grunt (Yes, I want both )
Ashley/Kaiden
Tali
Legion
Mordin

Wouldn't mind having in ME3:
Miranda
Thane

Would hate to deal with in ME3:
Jacob (worst character in either game :|)
Zaeed (I like some of his guddamn dialogue, but I really don't like the guy)
Jack (Nothing against her really, just.. Don't want her in my squad)
Kasumi (Just aggrivates me. Not sure why)

So, judging by my list.. I have 9 characters from ME1+2 that I'd love to have carry over to my party in ME3. I don't really need more than 9, to be honest. I think having 12 in ME2 is just too much. So now, I don't actually want to see a new squadmate in ME3. I want to see the ones I love fleshed out and expanded. I want them to evolve; maybe die, maybe live happily ever after. But I don't want them side-lined in order to welcome in a new crew of people I likely won't care much for.

Then again, BioWare has to take into account the people who have differing opinions from me. Some would have a much different list, and they have a right to see the characters they love get the same treatment. So it'll be interesting to see how BioWare works with this. If they carry over all ME2 squadmates, and also bring back Liara + Ashley/Kaiden, that would be amazing.
Then again, having so many members in ME2 spread them thin. They aren't as interesting or as talkative as the squadmates from ME1 were. If they add them both together.. Let's just hope they work twice as hard

Modifié par crimsoncobra57, 11 septembre 2010 - 01:27 .

[epoch_]

It doesn't matter what I want. It'd be a logistical nightmare to bring everybody back, and they almost certainly aren't going to do it.

[Throw_this_away]

XX55XX wrote...

...or is everyone satisfied with what BioWare has created for us so far?

I know, this is a contentious issue, because any talk of new squadmates often connotes that some of the old ones will be going away. I believe that BioWare will most likely create some new squadmates (though not as many as they did for ME2).

What archetypes do you want these characters to fall into? The writing and ultimate direction of these characters is for BioWare to decide, but we can still discuss this, can we?

I think a lot has been invested into current characters... I would like them to continue.  I would be happy with dropping about 4 characters from the squad... and adding 4. 

[Throw_this_away]

I would love to see:



Liara (I would be happy with a NPC role as long as it was central).

Miranda

Zaeed (love him to death... love his stories, and he is a useful squadmate)

Ash/Kaiden (we need to finish what we started in ME1)

Garrus

Grunt (I prefer Wrex 110%... but it won't happen. We need a Krogan)

Legion

Jacob (he has grown on me as an underdog of the forums... I would like him to be developed further... and without Femsheps sexy voice when they talk. Shave his head and give him his ME Galaxy armor).



On the Bubble:



Samara/Morinth (Morinth keeps things interesting)

Thane (meh)

Kasumi (never cared for her)

Mordin (meh)

Jack (give her hair and cover her up and I might care more...)



Make me want to claw my eyes out:



Tali (soooo boring. I kill her off in all of my playthroughs for a reason. I don;t care how popular she is with "forum types")

[AngryFrozenWater]

TeenZombie: I agree with you. It would be great to have all or the most interesting ones back.

In ME1 the characters became part of your team during the story. Their recruitment felt more natural. In ME2 you get a bunch of dossiers and you have to plough through them one by one.

When I play ME2 and the loyalty missions are starting then I have the urge to lock Kelly up in the ladies room when she starts her endless list of "Mordin wants to speak to you", "Grunt seems agitated", "Tali...", etc.

The recruitment and loyalty missions in ME2 feel like grinding. That's unfortunate, because the characters involved are cool.

You know, ME1 felt like an introduction to its characters. You learn something about their background. It felt like ME2 was ready to continue where ME1 left off. That would require a little introduction to them for the new players. I assumed something in the form of a flash back or maybe in the form of dialogue. Unfortunately and to my surprise that didn't happen at all. Even love interests were canceled. Really? Why? Now we need DLCs to correct that. Was it planned like that? My guess is as good as any.

ME3 can solve the grinding by using the existing characters and by introducing new crew members as part of the story. The loyalty missions can go as well. But if those are needed then it should be great to make them part of the story as well. There are lots of ways to accomplish that.

Let's hope that we get most of them back and not in the form of a couple of cheap dialogue lines, emails to the Normandy, news broadcasts, or cameos. Recently the forums have a new section in which the crew member fans are dumped. I think they were separated because some of the regular trolls felt these fans were annoying. The large number of those fans shows that people are attached to these characters. That must be seen as compliment to the BW staff. It also makes it obvious that BW should not abandon these characters. Too many people seem to love them.

Modifié par AngryFrozenWater, 11 septembre 2010 - 05:21 .

[Christmas Ape]

Not really, but I suspect the groundwork has been laid to replace any SM deaths with NPCs you're familiar with, up to whatever number they consider appropriate for ME3. Whether by species or specialization is still up for grabs.

[GodWood]

The 15 we have now is enough.

[adriano_c]

Wiping the slate = laziness from Bioware.



It's easy (for them) to churn out characters that, admittedly, we'll probably like. It's more difficult to keep existing characters fresh and interesting.

[Caihn]

I don't want new squadmates.

ME1 & ME2 squadmates are enough.

[Some Dude]

A couple new ones wouldn't be bad...
But I think we are at the point where anymore might be squadmate overload.....

Modifié par Some Dude, 11 septembre 2010 - 05:48 .

[JockBuster]

Christmas Ape wrote...

Not really, but I suspect the groundwork has been laid to replace any SM deaths with NPCs you're familiar with, up to whatever number they consider appropriate for ME3. Whether by species or specialization is still up for grabs.

In ME1 we had 6 squadmates, one (Ashley or Kaidan) or two (possibly Wrex) died on Virmire; Garrus OR Wrex did NOT have to be recruited (I'm still working on one with Garrus still waiting in C-Sec).
In ME2 we recruited 12 NEW squadmates of which 10 could possibly die; therefore, in ME3 we get 3 from ME1 (Tali, Garrus & Kaidan or Ashley) plus 2 to 9 from ME2 for a maximum  of 12.
But what each of us is going to end up with for a team in ME3 is who we kept ALIVE on the SM plus Ashley or Kaidan, the 'other' ME1 LI (Liara IS the Shadow Broker now). Kaidan or Ashley could replace Thane, Jack, Zaeed, Samara, Kasumi or Mordin.
Jack is going to split after the mission if she survives and go kill off Cerberus starting with TIM (YEA!)
Thane is dying and does NOT expect to live long past the end of the mission.
Samara wants to go back to her Justicar thing if she survives
Kasumi & Zaeed are paid/hired, will they stick around, "who knows, the shadow knows" (radio show 1930's)
Grunt will NEVER leave Shepard because of "BIG things!"
Mordin is getting on in years (replaced by Maelon?)

Modifié par JockBuster, 11 septembre 2010 - 06:00 .

[Gibb_Shepard]

i just want my old crew back, Wrex, garrus, ash liara and tali. I just hope to god that jack isn't a permanent part of my crew in ME3, i wouldn't trust her as far as i could throw her.

[Mox Ruuga]

It is inevitable, but I don't mind too much any more. In fact, it will get the one or two unfavorites off the roster, which will be a bonus.

We'll get some back, my current guess is either Kaidan or Ashley. Perhaps Liara.

Everyone else is potentially dead (alas for Wrex), and I'm betting the squad will be smaller in ME3 in any case.

Bioware has already said that ME3 will be a stand alone game, so the noobs will need to be catered to. Much of the squaddie specific content is always in getting to know them and their histories, doing things for them, and in some cases engaging in romances. All this is easier, if everyone is meeting said characters for the first time. Besides, considering the baffling popularity these romance plots have, would Bioware really gyp out the noobs by forcing you to import a save to get some loving?

[TheodoricFriede]

The entire plot of Mass Effect 2 is getting your team together. It based entirely on recruitment with maybe 3 main story missions actually fighting collectors. You do twelve separate loyalty missions to make sure that these people are with you until the end.

If we have to recruit a new bloody team in the third game because people are too foolish to pick the right suicide mission people, or look at a guide, or only kill off the people you hate, then they just need to suffer the consequences. I want to kill reapers, not deal with the issues new teammates.

[Mox Ruuga]

TheodoricFriede wrote...

The entire plot of Mass Effect 2 is getting your team together. It based entirely on recruitment with maybe 3 main story missions actually fighting collectors. You do twelve separate loyalty missions to make sure that these people are with you until the end.

The plot is about hiring a team to TAKE ON THE COLLECTORS. Nothing more beyond that.

If we have to recruit a new bloody team in the third game because people are too foolish to pick the right suicide mission people, or look at a guide, or only kill off the people you hate, then they just need to suffer the consequences. I want to kill reapers, not deal with the issues new teammates.

...

Dude, not everyone plays this game through with either a guide or so many times that they get everything right. Bioware can't just assume that everyone will have that perfect save. In fact, I'd bet that the people who have that save are in the minority. Hell, some of us think the story is better if winning has a cost, and some people die. More dramatic.

In any case, the team was purposely made mortal. If Bioware had wanted to spare someone, they'd have made said person unkillable in ME2.

Oh wait, they did. And said they did it for that exact purpose...

[AngryFrozenWater]

Mox Ruuga wrote...

It is inevitable, but I don't mind too much any more. In fact, it will get the one or two unfavorites off the roster, which will be a bonus.

We'll get some back, my current guess is either Kaidan or Ashley. Perhaps Liara.

Everyone else is potentially dead (alas for Wrex), and I'm betting the squad will be smaller in ME3 in any case.

Bioware has already said that ME3 will be a stand alone game, so the noobs will need to be catered to. Much of the squaddie specific content is always in getting to know them and their histories, doing things for them, and in some cases engaging in romances. All this is easier, if everyone is meeting said characters for the first time. Besides, considering the baffling popularity these romance plots have, would Bioware really gyp out the noobs by forcing you to import a save to get some loving?

I always love your posts, Mox. Although I hope you are wrong about ME3 probably be a stand alone game. It does not fit in the whole "trilogy promise". Also, in a recent article (the one with the BW stats) Mr Hudson said he was surprised by the large number of people who have imported a ME1 character into ME2 (about 50%). That may ease them up a little. Or so I hope.

Modifié par AngryFrozenWater, 11 septembre 2010 - 07:48 .

[Axeface]

I think we will see some more squadmates to be honest and I dont mind at all. I think that in ME3 we will have a pretty large selection to choose from.

I am afraid that some of our faves will probably not be coming back to our squad though (Wrex mainly) but will play huge roles.