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[Dave of Canada]

OriginsIsBest wrote...

Haha, I would love for the Mass Effect 3 team to come out and say "This is commander Jerry, the hero of the universe. Sorry but commander Shepard's story was done."

Boyyyy Bioware would burn!

... Mass Effect is entirely different. Mass Effect is one giant story arc about stopping the Reapers, the Warden returning can't even be compared unless the next Dragon Age games were about stopping the Blight that you weren't able to stop in Dragon Age 1.

[ladydesire]

bluebullets wrote...



Think about it.. Howmany games go back to the potangonist in one game after moving on in a different game? NONE!

Bioware did it with Neverwinter Nights and its expansions; Shadows of Undretide was a separate character but Hordes of the Underdark was specifically written for the Hero of Neverwinter (main character from Neverwinter Nights).

[Arrtis]

OriginsIsBest wrote...

kaiki01 wrote...

I would rather play the god-child rather then the warden in DA3.

I would loveeeeeee to play the godchild.

THats sort of DA3.
The god child will be a supporting character temporairly in your party.

[Adanu]

Far as I am concerned, ALL of the Wardens but the Morrigan romance ones had the best ending they could get considering the nature of the series. Morrigan is, however, a bit more important to the series than Leliana. it's completely understandable they'd want to DLC her.

[Dave of Canada]

kaiki01 wrote...

I would rather play the god-child rather then the warden in DA3.

Darn. My Ultimate Sacrifice Warden would force me to play something that doesn't exist.

[Lord_Valandil]

Dave of Canada wrote...

OriginsIsBest wrote...

Haha, I would love for the Mass Effect 3 team to come out and say "This is commander Jerry, the hero of the universe. Sorry but commander Shepard's story was done."

Boyyyy Bioware would burn!

... Mass Effect is entirely different. Mass Effect is one giant story arc about stopping the Reapers, the Warden returning can't even be compared unless the next Dragon Age games were about stopping the Blight that you weren't able to stop in Dragon Age 1.

Why do everyone thinks that the Grey Warden is a one-trick pony?
Sure, their purpose is to kick the Darkspawn asses and stop the Blight, but as Wynne said, their mission is to protect people, to ensure the peace and stop the bad guys. They're not limited to fight the Darkspawn.
I think that there are more possibilities than just stopping *another* Blight, which may occur in a future Dragon Age, as two Old Gods remain.

Modifié par Lord_Valandil, 11 septembre 2010 - 01:05 .

[Valus]

Orbweaver wrote...

bluebullets wrote...

Gill Kaiser wrote...

To me, Hawke seems to be shaping up into a much more interesting protagonist than the Warden. Irrespective of the whole issue of the main character being voiced, and having a set race, I just think that Hawke's story sounds more interesting than the Warden's. I like the idea of rising to power over a decade, and playing someone so important to the future history of Thedas.

I do not have a problem with Hawke, I hsave a problem with the Warden's unconcluded story.
If it was hard confirmed there would be a large DA:1 expantion in the distant future or a warden DA:3 I'd go nuts over Hawke, but thats not the situation.. I want a conclusion to my epic tale.

Think about it.. Howmany games go back to the potangonist in one game after moving on in a different game? NONE!
Did Final fantasy x-2 come out after XII? No it did not!

I do believe that in one of the conversations my Warden had with Alistair, he states that most Wardens live (at the most) 30 years after drinking the tainted darkspawn blood.

In a way, we already know what happens to the Warden from DA:O, short of the Bioware team creating a "cure" or different death for the Warden beyond entering a thoroughly dangerous area in order to fight until death.

One also wonders why so many people complain about "incomplete" storylines. Can you truly not come up with your own version of what happened to your own Warden?

Yeah, it's about 30 years or so provided you don't blow up on top of a Fort or something equally awesome.

At any rate, well said. Not sure why everyone is so desperate for a conclusion to their story. Endings are best when they are left to the imagination.

[Darthnemesis2]

Dave of Canada wrote...

kaiki01 wrote...

I would rather play the god-child rather then the warden in DA3.

Darn. My Ultimate Alistair Sacrifice Warden would force me to play something that doesn't exist.

Fixed that for you

Modifié par Darthnemesis2, 11 septembre 2010 - 01:04 .

[OriginsIsBest]

Dave of Canada wrote...

OriginsIsBest wrote...

Haha, I would love for the Mass Effect 3 team to come out and say "This is commander Jerry, the hero of the universe. Sorry but commander Shepard's story was done."

Boyyyy Bioware would burn!

... Mass Effect is entirely different. Mass Effect is one giant story arc about stopping the Reapers, the Warden returning can't even be compared unless the next Dragon Age games were about stopping the Blight that you weren't able to stop in Dragon Age 1.

Maybe that's why Mass effect was so successful, because character continuation was important. People got attacted to their Shepard and squadmates.

[spartanmax52000]

kinda sucks that there be no more dlc for dragon age<

[addiction21]

Dave of Canada wrote...

OriginsIsBest wrote...

Haha, I would love for the Mass Effect 3 team to come out and say "This is commander Jerry, the hero of the universe. Sorry but commander Shepard's story was done."

Boyyyy Bioware would burn!

... Mass Effect is entirely different. Mass Effect is one giant story arc about stopping the Reapers, the Warden returning can't even be compared unless the next Dragon Age games were about stopping the Blight that you weren't able to stop in Dragon Age 1.

Logic and rational thinking? We dont like your kind around these here parts.

[OriginsIsBest]

Dave of Canada wrote...

kaiki01 wrote...

I would rather play the god-child rather then the warden in DA3.

Darn. My Ultimate Sacrifice Warden would force me to play something that doesn't exist.

 The dark ritual was the biggest choice in Origins. I mean who wouldnt want to create a god child?

[Darthnemesis2]

OriginsIsBest wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

kaiki01 wrote...

I would rather play the god-child rather then the warden in DA3.

Darn. My Ultimate Sacrifice Warden would force me to play something that doesn't exist.

 The dark ritual was the biggest choice in Origins. I mean who wouldnt want to create a god child?

*raises hand*

[Sjofn]

NonCanon wrote...

I was skeptic of it at first but didn't freak out about it, but I've come to accept and welcome the idea.
Although I wish Wardens other than Morrigan romancers got closure of some sort.

Yeah, that's my main gripe with the Morrigan romancers wailing about their lack of closure. They got far more than my poor Zevran romanced Wardens, and even that romance, to me, has a sense of "closure." "Closure" doesn't mean "every single aspect of their lives after the story is spelled out for you in detail," people!

Anyhoo, while I am not wild about having to play a human Hawke in Dragon Age 2, I have zero problem with my various wardens being "done."


EDIT: And chalk me up as another person that is perfectly able to turn Morrigan's offer down. Even when I do take it, if I'm playing a woman Warden (ESPECIALLY one romancing Alistair), the last thing she wants is to hear about that kid again.

Modifié par Sjofn, 11 septembre 2010 - 01:07 .

[upsettingshorts]

Dave of Canada wrote...
... Mass Effect is entirely different. Mass Effect is one giant story arc about stopping the Reapers, the Warden returning can't even be compared unless the next Dragon Age games were about stopping the Blight that you weren't able to stop in Dragon Age 1.

I'm quoting this because it needs to be restated.

Grey Wardens stop Blights.  The Blight was stopped in DA1.  

DA2 has a Qunari invasion.  There's no evidence of the Grey Wardens getting involved in wars between nations, and the Qunari don't even seem like they'd be interested in interfering with the Grey Warden's sacred duty even if they managed to take over all of Thedas.  The right people for the right job is part of their mantra.  They respect and honor the Wardens.  So...why would the Wardens contest them?  Why get involved at all?  It's not their business and not their job.  

It is however, you know, something the Champion of the region being invaded might want to deal with.  Maybe.

/my knowledge of the specifics of the Codex are limited so if there's some obscure bit of lore that proves me wrong I wouldn't be surprised.

[Dave of Canada]

Lord_Valandil wrote...

Why do everyone thinks that the Grey Warden is a one-trick pony?

When a book / movie / game focuses on one hero doing multiple things and saving everybody from across the world from everything, it tends to make the character rather bland. This also makes it worse when people want the same party, same gear, same level, same stats, same abilities and same everything.

A Grey Warden is always looked in awe and praised by the majority, this is often why an Elf player is more-or-less treated like an equal. With a character like Hawke, we're introduced to a new world through the eyes of somebody else. Hawke starts off harassed by everybody and should expect to deal with that throughout the game as he rises up to his rank. This is a fresh view on the world.

[Valus]

Darthnemesis2 wrote...

OriginsIsBest wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

kaiki01 wrote...

I would rather play the god-child rather then the warden in DA3.

Darn. My Ultimate Sacrifice Warden would force me to play something that doesn't exist.

 The dark ritual was the biggest choice in Origins. I mean who wouldnt want to create a god child?

*raises hand*

Right here. Ultimate Sacrifice FTW

[spartanmax52000]

*hand's up*

[Dave of Canada]

OriginsIsBest wrote...

Maybe that's why Mass effect was so successful, because character continuation was important. People got attacted to their Shepard and squadmates.

That's an assumption, we have no evidence that supports either way.

OriginsIsBest wrote...

The dark ritual was the biggest choice in Origins. I mean who wouldnt want to create a god child?

A few of my Wardens who deemed it too risky or didn't trust Morrigan after saying she knew of this all along.

[upsettingshorts]

I just let Loghain die killing the Archdemon. Partially because he deserved to die, partly because his actions before the events of Dragon Age: Origins earned him the right to die with some honor and dignity.

[Darthnemesis2]

Valus wrote...

Darthnemesis2 wrote...

OriginsIsBest wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

kaiki01 wrote...

I would rather play the god-child rather then the warden in DA3.

Darn. My Ultimate Sacrifice Warden would force me to play something that doesn't exist.

 The dark ritual was the biggest choice in Origins. I mean who wouldnt want to create a god child?

*raises hand*

Right here. Ultimate Alistair Sacrifice FTW

Why do I keep having to fix this?

[rhautanen]

spartanmax52000 wrote...

kinda sucks that there be no more dlc for dragon age<

Yup

[Lord_Valandil]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Lord_Valandil wrote...

Why do everyone thinks that the Grey Warden is a one-trick pony?

When a book / movie / game focuses on one hero doing multiple things and saving everybody from across the world from everything, it tends to make the character rather bland. This also makes it worse when people want the same party, same gear, same level, same stats, same abilities and same everything.

A Grey Warden is always looked in awe and praised by the majority, this is often why an Elf player is more-or-less treated like an equal. With a character like Hawke, we're introduced to a new world through the eyes of somebody else. Hawke starts off harassed by everybody and should expect to deal with that throughout the game as he rises up to his rank. This is a fresh view on the world.

Of course, I'm not against playing as Hawke. I'm looking forward to DA2, more than ever.
I'm just pointing out the fact that the Grey Wardens are not *done* yet, just because the Blight in Origins was stopped. There may be another story for them. Who knows? Not soon enough, but eventually there may be.

[OriginsIsBest]

It's really annoying that basically none of my choices in Origins mattered. I'm probably never going to see what happens to the god baby, since Bioware are going to keep changing the main character.

Modifié par OriginsIsBest, 11 septembre 2010 - 01:11 .

[upsettingshorts]

OriginsIsBest wrote...

It's really annoying that basically none of my choices in Origins mattered. I'm probably never going to see what happens to the god baby, sence Bioware are going to keep changing the main character.

What happens when we assume?