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[Dr. wonderful]

OriginsIsBest wrote...

I'm sorry, but this is not the kind of game I Imagined DA turning into, Guess I should just accept the fact that...what happened in Origins doesn't really matter in the world of Thedas. I guess I will wait until DA3 and see if the plot involes Morrigan or the godbaby.

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Picard Maneuver.

3...2...1

(Facepalm)

Origins take place at the same time as DA:2

Surpised?

[Dave of Canada]

Dr. wonderful wrote...

Picard Maneuver.

3...2...1

(Facepalm)

I use the Alistair maneuver.

[Darthnemesis2]

Dr. wonderful wrote...

OriginsIsBest wrote...

I'm sorry, but this is not the kind of game I Imagined DA turning into, Guess I should just accept the fact that...what happened in Origins doesn't really matter in the world of Thedas. I guess I will wait until DA3 and see if the plot involes Morrigan or the godbaby.

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Picard Maneuver.

3...2...1



Origins take place at the same time as DA:2

Surpised?

[Nyaore]

OriginsIsBest wrote...

I'm sorry, but this is not the kind of game I Imagined DA turning into, Guess I should just accept the fact that...what happened in Origins doesn't really matter in the world of Thedas. I guess I will wait until DA3 and see if the plot involes Morrigan or the godbaby.

When was it ever stated that it never mattered? The developers are going as far as to allow you import your old save games from Origins and Awakening. All to ensure that all the choices you made in the first game show are reflected in the second one.
Bioware could have easily pulled something like Bethseda does with their Elderscrolls series, where all your heroes are essentially faceless entities whose achievements outside of the main storyline are rarely touched upon or ignored completely in subsequent titles. (All their heroes also have a petchant for disappearing off the face of the earth or to distant lands once their roles have been played. I'm still scratching my head as to why my Wood Elf Nerevarine would ever want to set foot in Akavir of all places after the events of the third game.. She was quite content to spend the rest of her days going across Vvardenfell, looting former religious sites and hunting the rest of those blasted cliff racers into extinction...) The very fact that Bioware is taking the time to consider all the different variables for the next game, instead of adopting something akin to the above strategy of ignoring everything to keep the world as seemless as possible, speaks volumes in my mind.
Not to mention the fact that you killed a bleeping Archdemon in Origins and saved Thedas without losing a single country to the Blight. That's not something that is going to be forgotten lightly.

Morrigan is definitely recurring character material, anyone with eyes can see this. Everything, or at least a good portion of it, will become apparent with time. She's going to come back, whether we like it or not. Might as well be patient about it.

Modifié par Nyaore, 11 septembre 2010 - 03:21 .

[OriginsIsBest]

Dave of Canada wrote...

OriginsIsBest wrote...

I'm sorry, but this is not the kind of game I Imagined DA turning into, Guess I should just accept the fact that...what happened in Origins doesn't really matter in the world of Thedas. I guess I will wait until DA3 and see if the plot involes Morrigan or the godbaby.

Where does this keep coming from?  Origin choices DO matter. Hell, Gaider even said the Mage Origin's specific boon of freeing the Mage Tower DOES import.

Which I doubt will happen with the new art design and such...but meh.

There's a fear I can understand! Finally! The Warden will most likely have his/her face concealed with a helmet / hood or something if ever they should reappear as an NPC.

When are we going to see the consequences for the godbaby  then? I really can't see it happening in DA2. So for me, Origins choices don't matter, until I see DA3, and what plot it involes around.

I understand the choices like who you crowned ect. They are easy to deal with, but for me I did the DR and that was one major choice, and I would like to see the consequences for that unfold.

[Dr. wonderful]

OriginsIsBest wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

OriginsIsBest wrote...

I'm sorry, but this is not the kind of game I Imagined DA turning into, Guess I should just accept the fact that...what happened in Origins doesn't really matter in the world of Thedas. I guess I will wait until DA3 and see if the plot involes Morrigan or the godbaby.

Where does this keep coming from?  Origin choices DO matter. Hell, Gaider even said the Mage Origin's specific boon of freeing the Mage Tower DOES import.

Which I doubt will happen with the new art design and such...but meh.

There's a fear I can understand! Finally! The Warden will most likely have his/her face concealed with a helmet / hood or something if ever they should reappear as an NPC.

When are we going to see the consequences for the godbaby  then? I really can't see it happening in DA2. So for me, Origins choices don't matter, until I see DA3, and what plot it involes around.

I understand the choices like who you crowned ect. They are easy to deal with, but for me I did the DR and that was one major choice, and I would like to see the consequences for that unfold.

The Godbaby? That what you been talking about? Just to see that silly little boy? He'll be ten at the end of DA2 so maybe you see him.

Maybe.

But I hope not, that is just one of the endings, not canon .

[Lawrence- Mage of the Grey Wardens]

I think we have Hawke for 2 reasons:

1. People like that Commander Shepard type of character

and

2. If we all have the same character, it's easier to continue a story.

As an extension of #2, I imagine we won't be able to take the story into different directions in the nearly infinitesimally small ways we could in Origins.

The game will become, overall, more of a movie-series style story. It was probably too much to expect the creators to continue a series of games in which a million different players get a million different outcomes with a millions different variations of the main character.

Doing Dragon Age Origins 2 would just be too much work...

All the marketing and beard hyperbole aside, going with one character with one set origin for everybody is just the easier way to do things.

I understand the decision completely but...I still want to know what happens after Morrigan and the Warden go through the mirror.

Modifié par Lawrence- Mage of the Grey Wardens, 11 septembre 2010 - 03:24 .

[Dr. wonderful]

Lawrence- Mage of the Grey Wardens wrote...



I understand the decision completely but...I still want to know what happens after Morrigan and the Warden go through the mirror.

That the problem! Everyone have a "canon" in that game! My warden allow morrigan go throught the mirror herself with The Godbaby (I also have a ending in which my warden didn't take the DR)  On my thrid warden, Morrigan killed her.

[Darthnemesis2]

OriginsIsBest wrote...

When are we going to see the consequences for the godbaby  then? I really can't see it happening in DA2. So for me, Origins choices don't matter, until I see DA3, and what plot it involes around.

I understand the choices like who you crowned ect. They are easy to deal with, but for me I did the DR and that was one major choice, and I would like to see the consequences for that unfold.

A lot of people didn't do the DR though. Some went US, some had Alistair kill the AD, some had Loghain do it. Without making one choice cannon (and thereby pissing off a whole lotta people) they can't continue that aspect of the storyline for an entire game. Maybe a DLC or something, but to have the plot of DA3 be "Find Morrigan/God baby and kill them/use them to conquer the world" when a large portion (possibly most) people who played DA:O never made that choice would be crazy.

[OriginsIsBest]

Lawrence- Mage of the Grey Wardens wrote...

I think we have Hawke for 2 reasons:


1. People like that Commander Shepard type of character

and

2. If we all have the same character, it's easier to continue a story.

As an extension of #2, I imagine we won't be able to take the story into different directions in the nearly infinitesimally small ways we could in Origins.

The game will become, overall, more of a movie-series style story. It was probably too much to expect the creators to continue a series of games in which a million different players get a million different outcomes with a millions different variations of the main character.

Doing Dragon Age Origins 2 would just be too much work...

All the marketing and beard hyperbole aside, going with one character with one set origin for everybody is just the easier way to do things.

I understand the decision completely but...I still want to know what happens after Morrigan and the Warden go through the mirror.

I agree with you, having the warden return would be harder work. They would have to make up about 6 different starts maybe more. It's obvious Bioware are rushing DA2, and starting a brand new character, was the quickest way to do that.

And you want to know what happens to Morrigan, godbaby and the warden? Hey join the club! go onto the Morrigan discussion page. Hundreds feel the same!

[Riona45]

OriginsIsBest wrote...

Right....so say in DA2, you get attacted to a character, and they leave you with a massive cliffhanger at the end. Which has so much potential, and Bioware annouce DA3. Which forces you into another hero. AND those major questions from DAO & DA2 are still not answered.

That's the sort of game you guys want? plotholes everywhere?

Unanswered questions are not necessarily plot holes.

[Lord_Valandil]

Dr. wonderful wrote...

that is just one of the endings, not canon .

Not canon for the ones who didn't do the DR, of course.
Those who did, will see him. That's a possibility, since the data of Witch Hunt can be imported.

[OriginsIsBest]

Darthnemesis2 wrote...

OriginsIsBest wrote...

When are we going to see the consequences for the godbaby  then? I really can't see it happening in DA2. So for me, Origins choices don't matter, until I see DA3, and what plot it involes around.

I understand the choices like who you crowned ect. They are easy to deal with, but for me I did the DR and that was one major choice, and I would like to see the consequences for that unfold.

A lot of people didn't do the DR though. Some went US, some had Alistair kill the AD, some had Loghain do it. Without making one choice cannon (and thereby pissing off a whole lotta people) they can't continue that aspect of the storyline for an entire game. Maybe a DLC or something, but to have the plot of DA3 be "Find Morrigan/God baby and kill them/use them to conquer the world" when a large portion (possibly most) people who played DA:O never made that choice would be crazy.

I understand what you mean. The US have nothing to loose, their story is done. But for those that did the Dark ritual their story is not, it had a lot of potential. I think most people did the Dark ritual ending...if you wanted your warden and Loghain/Alistair to stay alive, to continue into DLC content and Awakenings. Which most people did.

Gaider said that the dark ritual was the most important choice in Origins. So I hope we get to see the consequences of it.

[Dave of Canada]

OriginsIsBest wrote...

Gaider said that the dark ritual was the most important choice in Origins. So I hope we get to see the consequences of it.

We will. Eventually.

[Dr. wonderful]

Lord_Valandil wrote...

Dr. wonderful wrote...

that is just one of the endings, not canon .

Not canon for the ones who didn't do the DR, of course.
.

Right Valandi.

For Example, if I say My City elf Warden taken the US. That canon in my game. My warden s dead, some other uptight fellow taken over my job.

That will be reflected in DA2.

[OriginsIsBest]

Dave of Canada wrote...

OriginsIsBest wrote...

Gaider said that the dark ritual was the most important choice in Origins. So I hope we get to see the consequences of it.

We will. Eventually.

Just not in DA2....

[JamieCOTC]

I'm fine w/ the Warden being done. I am not fine w/ the story being done in Witch Hunt. Blech! It was nice to see Morrigan again, for the 3 minutes we saw her. Yes, this DLC gives those who romanced Morrigan some closure and that IS a good thing. That's pretty much all it does, however. So, to answer the question, no, I am not terribly upset that DA2 will have a new character. I'm upset because BW just p*ssed on the Warden's grave, metaphorically speaking of course. Hawke, (God I hate that name), is shaping up well, though I still have not made up my mind. Will have to hear BOTH male and female voices before I can think about committing to anything.

[Bryy_Miller]

OriginsIsBest wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

OriginsIsBest wrote...

Gaider said that the dark ritual was the most important choice in Origins. So I hope we get to see the consequences of it.

We will. Eventually.

Just not in DA2....

And - ? 

[Dr. wonderful]

Bryy_Miller wrote...

OriginsIsBest wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

OriginsIsBest wrote...

Gaider said that the dark ritual was the most important choice in Origins. So I hope we get to see the consequences of it.

We will. Eventually.

Just not in DA2....

And - ? 

...We waiting.

[Lord_Valandil]

Dr. wonderful wrote...

Lord_Valandil wrote...

Dr. wonderful wrote...

that is just one of the endings, not canon .

Not canon for the ones who didn't do the DR, of course.
.

Right Valandi.

For Example, if I say My City elf Warden taken the US. That canon in my game. My warden s dead, some other uptight fellow taken over my job.

That will be reflected in DA2.

If your Warden sacrificed himself/herself, then the story is over.

[Dr. wonderful]

Lord_Valandil wrote...

Dr. wonderful wrote...

Lord_Valandil wrote...

Dr. wonderful wrote...

that is just one of the endings, not canon .

Not canon for the ones who didn't do the DR, of course.
.

Right Valandi.

For Example, if I say My City elf Warden taken the US. That canon in my game. My warden s dead, some other uptight fellow taken over my job.

That will be reflected in DA2.

If your Warden sacrificed himself/herself, then the story is over.

Not quite, you can have some Orlesian Warden become your character.

[OriginsIsBest]

Lord_Valandil wrote...

Dr. wonderful wrote...

Lord_Valandil wrote...

Dr. wonderful wrote...

that is just one of the endings, not canon .

Not canon for the ones who didn't do the DR, of course.
.

Right Valandi.

For Example, if I say My City elf Warden taken the US. That canon in my game. My warden s dead, some other uptight fellow taken over my job.

That will be reflected in DA2.

If your Warden sacrificed himself/herself, then the story is over.

They could of continued the warden's story. But Bioware rushed into DA2, and the quickest way was to start a new character from scratch.

[soundchaser721]

The ending to witch hunt was pretty satisfying to me... but its so ambiguous and I'm anxious to see what becomes of it. After playing witch hunt I'm definitely looking forward to DA2 more but really just in regards to Flemeth's involvement in the story. I don't really care too much for Hawke but given the witch hunt ending I won't mind playing as him.

[Dr. wonderful]

OriginsIsBest wrote...

Lord_Valandil wrote...

Dr. wonderful wrote...

Lord_Valandil wrote...

Dr. wonderful wrote...

that is just one of the endings, not canon .

Not canon for the ones who didn't do the DR, of course.
.

Right Valandi.

For Example, if I say My City elf Warden taken the US. That canon in my game. My warden s dead, some other uptight fellow taken over my job.

That will be reflected in DA2.

If your Warden sacrificed himself/herself, then the story is over.

They could of continued the warden's story. But Bioware rushed into DA2, and the quickest way was to start a new character from scratch.

...Why? The blight over.

[MerrickShep]

Honestly perhaps the true antagonist of the entire Dragon Age world is Flemeth. Who knows how long she/it has been around maybe she was one who brought the Darkspawn about in the first place. Hawke will probably have some kind of conflict with her and realize he cannot win and then your Warden, Morrigan and your Son return to destroy her