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[FieryDove]

Jarek_Cousland wrote...

Has anybody ever thought that it was so shortened and buggy because they're working on uhhh....maybe a new game?

 

The DLC team is completely seperate from anything thing else. This has been said at least a dozen times by various Dev's.

Also telling people they are childen and whiny is not the best way to get your point across. Not to mention saying the bugs are because of da2 in development is horrible from a business standpoint as well as lowering consumer confidence in future titles.

They are trying to fix the bugs, for those that want to finish it correctly the patch will come.

[AlistairsGirl]

After playing Lair of the Shadow Broker the day before, it was a bit of a disappointment to say the least. Bring on DA2 tho

[Veex]

I actually really enjoyed Witch Hunt and fortunately didn't experience any of the bugs folks have been experiencing.

[UFOash]

Looks like their neglecting the "customisable story" idea slightly thatl I like so much about Bioware games in DA2, I mean you can customise your character's look but his background is already set, and worse I get the feeling Hawkes personality is already set too. (at least quite abit)

I think if I do get DA2 (which I'm not sure about yet) I won't be able to feel like I'm the guy moving around there.
The guy in Mass Effect always seemed slightly preset but I'm quite wary of this Hawke.
Also considering Free Marches is on another nation I'm not sure how much your DA1 decisions can really effect DA2 too much.

Modifié par UFOash, 15 septembre 2010 - 02:03 .

[Bratt1204]

Sappy69 wrote...

While the obvious bugs in Witch Hunt annoy everyone, that's far from its only problem.  Let me get this straight for those who are unclear: Witch Hunt would still suck even if it were completely bug-free.

The entire adventure is pointless.  That encounter with Morrigan is the reason people play this module.  But where does it lead?  After your encounter with Morrigan, there is absolutely nothing you know that you didn't already know before you started the adventure.  People have said this many times, but are absolutely correct: you're paying $7 for a DA2 advertisement.

The encounter with Morrigan is also terrible for other reasons.  The entire conversation is an exercise in vague responses and ambiguities.  It felt like talking to a politician.  Apparently, during the year or so after Morrigan left you, she mastered the art of Speaking Without Actually Saying Anything.

You know how you feel after you watch an awful movie?  Not only are you pissed about the money you paid, but that's 2 hours of your life you'll never get back.  That's the feeling I got after playing this...I felt robbed of my free time.

And then of course, there are the bugs.  The DR bug is terrible enough (considering this is actually, you know, non-trivial and actually important to players).  However, you also have the end-game autosave bug.  Umm, people do realize that this bug is present 100% of the time right?  As in, there is absolutely no player out there who actually gets an autosave after the final decision.  How does a bug with a 100% appearance rate make it past QA?

Bioware bought a lot of good faith with me after the Baldur's Gate series, and continued it with KOTOR.  I used to associate Bioware with quality, but this mess tells me Bioware is perfectly happy to release products of an abysmally low quality.  A poster above said it best: Witch Hunt is so bad it makes you wish the story had just ended with Origins.  This is the kind of crap that affects a company's reputation.

I always read several reviews, from multiple sources before deciding to purchase a game. I just posted my honest, candid review of Witch Hunt on Gamspot.com and gave it a warranted: Dismal 1/10.

In order for game developers to stay competitive and gain market share in today's declining gaming industry - they MUST provide consumers products they want and consider a good value. If game developers continue to maintain smug and arrogant attitudes toward consumers and continue to provide worthless, lazy and self-indulgent products - they will fail miserably and loose their consumer's loyalty; period.

Modifié par Bratt1204, 15 septembre 2010 - 02:51 .

[UFOash]

The game industry is declining?

I thought it was doing quite well, in fact I'd go as far to say its either peaking or going up.
Surely one DLC, however bad, won't mean everybody will veto the next Bioware DLC.

[Bratt1204]

UFOash wrote...

The game industry is declining?

I thought it was doing quite well, in fact I'd go as far to say its either peaking or going up.
Surely one DLC, however bad, won't mean everybody will veto the next Bioware DLC.

When you decide to climb out from under the rock you've been living under, perhaps you would like to take  gander at this :

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/100679-Game-Industry-Suffers-Fourth-Worst-Sales-Decline-Ever

[UFOash]

Bratt1204 wrote...

UFOash wrote...

The game industry is declining?

I thought it was doing quite well, in fact I'd go as far to say its either peaking or going up.
Surely one DLC, however bad, won't mean everybody will veto the next Bioware DLC.

When you decide to climb out from under the rock you've been living under, perhaps you would like to take  gander at this :

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/100679-Game-Industry-Suffers-Fourth-Worst-Sales-Decline-Ever

To be fair, the world is in recession.

I'd say a lot more people play video games than just a few years ago.

And I have not been living under a rock thank you very much, its a bridge.

[termokanden]

I agree that Witch Hunt was a massive disappointment, particularly after seeing the quality of other DLC released on the same day by the same company.



But it's not completely hopeless. I did think the other characters were fun, even if you only get to have them in your party for such a short DLC.

[DhammaWings]

I wasn't disappointed. How could I be for a mere $7? Hell, I sometimes spend that much or more on a bad lunch or dinner or movie! I'm not diminishing the value of $7, but come on!

[Suilebhain]

There is only one thing worse than never resolving a major plot point and that is to do it poorly. Having a token pass-through to resolve the question of Morrigan's fate would be far worse than to leave it undone and let us imagine what became of her. Guild Wars did this with Gwen. So much speculation surrounded her and what would happen when she and the hero met and it was like she never knew you. Bummer. Waste of energy.

If Witch Hunt is another flat resolution like that, I will not only not buy it but I will not buy any more Dragon Age at all, because my feeling is that if Gaider cannot make the effort with such a major character, then everything that follows will either be a pandering effort or schlock for the masses. I saw this trend coming with Awakenings. We need a hard-edged dramatic ending to this. For many of us, Morrigan was extremely important. <_<

[termokanden]

DhammaWings wrote...

I wasn't disappointed. How could I be for a mere $7? Hell, I sometimes spend that much or more on a bad lunch or dinner or movie! I'm not diminishing the value of $7, but come on!

True it was quite cheap. Also nice that you can use the items you unlock elsewhere. The mage robe at least is very good.

I'm just disappointed that this is how they chose the end it. I would rather have paid more for a better product.

[UFOash]

Suilebhain wrote...

There is only one thing worse than never resolving a major plot point and that is to do it poorly. Having a token pass-through to resolve the question of Morrigan's fate would be far worse than to leave it undone and let us imagine what became of her. Guild Wars did this with Gwen. So much speculation surrounded her and what would happen when she and the hero met and it was like she never knew you. Bummer. Waste of energy.

If Witch Hunt is another flat resolution like that, I will not only not buy it but I will not buy any more Dragon Age at all, because my feeling is that if Gaider cannot make the effort with such a major character, then everything that follows will either be a pandering effort or schlock for the masses. I saw this trend coming with Awakenings. We need a hard-edged dramatic ending to this. For many of us, Morrigan was extremely important. <_<

Hmm...I can understand this I guess.

So you have not played Witch Hunt?
I haven't got to the Witch Hunt continuity yet but when I do I'd like to try out Witch Hunt.

Perhaps this is why everyones so dissappointed, I mean if evryone's coming up with this brilliant theories on how things happened after the credits, people are bound to be diissappointed when it doesn't pan out that way.

Although look at it from Bioware's point of view, I mean if they keep seeing speculation's about Morrigan there bound to think that a perfect DLC for their fans would be explanation of how Morrigan ended up.

[blu_skye]

Jarek_Cousland wrote...

Has anybody ever thought that it was so shortened and buggy because they're working on uhhh....maybe a new game?

Limited budgets and time can do horrids to a game or DLC, just look at KOTOR 2 if it hadnt been rushed for the holidays gameplay wise it would've been better then the first. Bioware only released this the way it was because they had to.

Stop acting like Spoiled children, extra things like this could easily have never been released. Be thankful for what you get, or just dont get it. Criticizing is ok, but flat-out whining is pathetic.

So let me get this straight - people shouldn't feel like they've been ripped off because of obvious bugs, advertisements, and a clear lack of any decent content because Bioware/EA is working on the next game?   Folks PAID for working content, regardless of length, and didn't get it.  Repeatedly.  

If EA/Bioware can't even catch the clear bugs in WH, they shouldn't release anything.  I'd be down if they simply stopped after DAO.  There is no excuse what so ever for SELLING you content that does not work. None.  They shouldn't be surprised when DA2 flops because they drove off their customer base.

[Bratt1204]

blu_skye wrote...

Jarek_Cousland wrote...

Has anybody ever thought that it was so shortened and buggy because they're working on uhhh....maybe a new game?

Limited budgets and time can do horrids to a game or DLC, just look at KOTOR 2 if it hadnt been rushed for the holidays gameplay wise it would've been better then the first. Bioware only released this the way it was because they had to.

Stop acting like Spoiled children, extra things like this could easily have never been released. Be thankful for what you get, or just dont get it. Criticizing is ok, but flat-out whining is pathetic.

So let me get this straight - people shouldn't feel like they've been ripped off because of obvious bugs, advertisements, and a clear lack of any decent content because Bioware/EA is working on the next game?   Folks PAID for working content, regardless of length, and didn't get it.  Repeatedly.  

If EA/Bioware can't even catch the clear bugs in WH, they shouldn't release anything.  I'd be down if they simply stopped after DAO.  There is no excuse what so ever for SELLING you content that does not work. None.  They shouldn't be surprised when DA2 flops because they drove off their customer base.

THIS !!

[Les Polar]

I always wait a couple of months before I buy a new DLC so I don't have to deal with BUGS...Just do what ever Grey Wardens do to past the time ( get drunk or visit a brothel with Slim )...

[Adokat]

Bought this DLC and LotSB on the same day. The Mass Effect DLC was excellent-new areas, character development, and it advanced the story. This dlc was a retread of old areas and it abruptly with little character development or advancing of the story. Very disappointing and a big waste of time.

[Antaios]

Just to add some weight to those voices which warn others about witch hunt: don't buy this add on. Spend the money on something else. It is not worth it, not because of the bugs, but because the add on is just the opposite of what Bioware claims it to be. It is supposed to be about Morrigan: "Her plans and her whereabouts have remained a mystery... until now. " You won't learn anything about either and will only do a bit of very simple minded dungeon crawling. DA:O is a great game, and it is difficult to believe that this uninspired beginner's mod comes from the same people.

This kind of greediness is a pain, but look at the good side. Bioware really burnt their reputation now and many people will wait in the future before they spend any money on their games to make sure they are not spending it for the wrong kind of stuff again. And learning this only costs 5 Euros instead of 50.

[Aehuir]

UFOash wrote...
I haven't got to the Witch Hunt continuity yet but when I do I'd like to try out Witch Hunt.

Perhaps this is why everyones so dissappointed, I mean if evryone's coming up with this brilliant theories on how things happened after the credits, people are bound to be diissappointed when it doesn't pan out that way.

Although look at it from Bioware's point of view, I mean if they keep seeing speculation's about Morrigan there bound to think that a perfect DLC for their fans would be explanation of how Morrigan ended up.

The problem is, there was no explanation of how Morrigan ended up. Yes, it would have been a great idea for a DLC! But the DLC contained no actual explanations. Just vague "I can't tell you that" evasions. What's gotten people so peeved is that they were led to believe there would be answers. There were no answers, no information that we didn't already have.

Witch Hunt was like being told you were going on an airplane trip, spending half an hour taxiing on the runway, and then getting kicked off the plane before takeoff. I think we might've gotten peanuts but I'm not sure.

[BoogieManFL]

I was about to buy this.. Credit card in hand. Not so sure now. Other than the quality comments, 45 minutes? Really?



eh....

[AlistairsGirl]

Yeah, I think it took me about 45mins to complete. The 'dungeons' were pretty easy. That big boss battle was pretty cool tho. Was a bit surprised that the dlc didn't pick up anything about Alistair/Morrigan and the bubs, but I've read about that bug somewhere. Might have to try again at some point. I will play it again though, I have 3 more characters to take through the dlc. Was just hoping for a real resolve at the end there. Maybe it comes up in DA2? Who knows.

[Poleaxe]

BoogieManFL wrote...

I was about to buy this.. Credit card in hand. Not so sure now. Other than the quality comments, 45 minutes? Really?

eh....

It took me about 2 hours. DAO took me 57 hours first time around, so make the conversion to your play style. 

[deathviper1959a]

I already bought DAO and DAA, i got a cupon for the golem, played for awhile then started having cut sceen issues with horible lag.

i have uninstalled both, and am sitting on 1 game and 1 xpack that i cant play. so buying DLC is not even an option.

so much for my brand new windows 7 Alienware Aurora. that cut sceens lag for upwards of an hour, no joke!

The only thing i can do now, is wait several months before buying any game that i think i would like, and check the forums, for crashes, glitches, lag, and general discontent by those who are having problems, knowing that patches are a priveledge, and not to be expected!

games that have a higher rate of user praise than user problems, i will consider spending my money on.

fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me, EA/Bioware if you want my gaming money, you will have to earn the trust that you once had without reservation, from games Like Baldurs Gate, Icewind Dale, and NWN.

[Sinferno]

Half the DLC for Dragonage is cheap. Awakening was a joke. Putting a bow on a trash can doesn't change the fact its still a trash can. Awakening was rushed so fast they couldnt even take the time to balance the game. Its really a shame that the gaming market are targetting teenagers in this generation. I've learned my lesson from these companies, whether its the developers or the publishers fault a bad game is a bad game. You can only sell so much crap until word spreads and suddenly you find your company linked to the garbage your selling whether its a game or a DLC.

Hopefully, unlike DA: Origins that recieved so many good critic scores and some honest critics who gave it a 60-80 instead of a 100, DA2 will be judged fairly and people will not just see the Bioware company name and give it a 100 because of how promising their past games are like BG. I've learned my lesson from Awakening. I Will be waiting for reviews for DA2 and any other games from Bioware if there this desperate for money to release such crap.