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Your honest reason for saving ashley or Kaiden?

Débuté par dawsdgd , sept. 11 2010 10:25

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Ferretinabun
Posté 12 juillet 2012 - 08:57

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It's a tough one. One one hand, making sure the bomb goes off is top priority, so you should really clear the geth from the bomb site. On the other hand, it bugs me that you can have Kirrahe and the Salarian squad on board even if you didn't go to the AA tower.

This playthrough am going femshep who romances Kaiden, yet still saves Ashley. A total Renegade, Kaidan's the only one she's nice to. But she's going to figure she only saves one if she gets Kaidan, while she saves several if she gets Ashley and the Salarians. Gonna be a poignant moment for her.

Modifié par Ferretinabun, 14 juillet 2012 - 09:45 .

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Karlone123
Posté 17 juillet 2012 - 10:18

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I always chose Kaidan over Ashley, I like the friendship with him more than the being friends or lovers with Ashley. I liked him because of he wasn't cocky or in your face, he was pretty conservative on Humanity's place in the galaxy, saying we should take our time rather than rush into our place. And I agreed with him on most things he said.

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tholloway93
Posté 18 juillet 2012 - 11:33

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Spitfire_mcguire wrote...

PsiFive wrote...

Spitfire_mcguire wrote...

Sorry Kaidan, you are my Shep's BF in ME1. Shepard, graduate of the N7 program, will have to live with that for the rest of his life. ...dramatic stuff.

BF = bomb fodder?:D


hahahahaha

Nice one:D



I have tried so hard to save Kaidan on Virmire last ME1 playthrough, just to see what he is like in ME3, but can't do it... can't sacrifice Ash.

this. so many times over. 

#779
Endurium
Posté 18 juillet 2012 - 05:34

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My first shepard romanced Liara, so I let Ashley bite it on Vermire. I regretted that after the way Kaidan treated me in ME2.

My second shepard romanced Ashley and I was happy to let Kaidan bite it on Vermire

My third shepard is a renegade female who likely won't romance anyone (uses self-stimulation), but will likely let Kaidan bite it on Vermire because I prefer being told off by Ashley in ME2.

Modifié par Endurium, 18 juillet 2012 - 05:42 .

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rdnanez
Posté 30 juillet 2012 - 08:43

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just replayed me1 and saved kaidan cuz ash is such a **** and trys to start stuff with me LI liara. plus i hear kaidan has more dialogue in me3. ash is pretty silent if you didnt romance her

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Phaedryn
Posté 01 août 2012 - 06:57

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Simple. Ash has boobs, whatshisname does not.

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Naivor
Posté 02 août 2012 - 11:37

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Kaidan felt kinda boring on my first Shepard, so I went with Ashley.
And the fact that I'm basically a white knight to anyone who doesnt try to actively kill me, such as Benezia.

#783
Arathyl
Posté 05 août 2012 - 08:26

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as a femshep i chose kaidan of course. wanted to pursue a romance story... but i actually like ashley as a character more (at least in me1) she's badass, upfront, and most of all, she doesn't whine, which was annoying with kaidan

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Outlawstar15a2
Posté 06 août 2012 - 11:23

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Ashley has ******, Kaiden doesn't.

Ashley got saved on my 1st and 3rd playthrough... And probably my 4th when I get around to doing it.

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PsiFive
Posté 07 août 2012 - 07:11

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Still hate 'em both. Lately I've been romancing whichever of the two is appropriate and then blowing them up on Virnire. Frustrating for Shepard, satisfying for me. <evil grin> Bwahahahahahaha!

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Posté 08 août 2012 - 01:27

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My Shepard becomes romantically involved with Ashley in ME1...and the Virmire plot also serves as the turning point towards the "canon" squad of Shepard, Ashley, and Garrus...as it's always Shep, Kaidan, Ashley (in my storyline) up to that point.

Modifié par Spectre David Shepard, 08 août 2012 - 01:31 .

#787
Konador088
Posté 02 septembre 2012 - 10:54

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i found it was best to save kaiden and to send him off with the salarians and ash with the bomb. reason i did this was because first of all kaiden was higher rank, 2nd ash just always annoyed me with the poetry and alien racist comments, lastly if u save kaiden while he is with salarians u can also save a small group of them which is quite fancy to my shepards reputation, lol

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Posté 06 septembre 2012 - 05:18

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First play throughs I saved Ashley because I wasn't playing it to get to know the characters and didn't even realize that was an option. I was playing it like other video games where you just do the task and I didn't understand biotics at all or how powerful they were so Kaidan was useless to me even as a femshep. Ashley was a soldier who was great in battle. I was new to playing video games. Never bothered with them until recently. So Ashley until I started looking things up online about the game and discovered all this romance stuff. Then I thought I'd give it a try with kaidan given he was the only male option. From then on, I save him. It added fun to my game - lots of nice conversations as he's not racist and has an interesting history as well as amusing at times. Ashley was a ****. I played through two and three not understanding aspects of the game and then noticed stuff that triggered the research online. Ashley was horrible to my shepard. I visited her in the hospital and was nice and she refused to join me on the normandy because we didn't get along. I didn't chat with her in ME1 but I was fine to her in ME2 and ME3 visited her in the hospital. She was just mean, and really horrible on horizon. So yep, she's dead.

Also, in ME1, Kaidan is one kick but biotic once you max his sentinel. Do that almost first and once you max his throw and especially if you have throw maxed, you can take out colossus and armatures like cake and kill saren in short order.

Modifié par starlitegirlx, 06 septembre 2012 - 05:20 .

#789
Quibii
Posté 06 septembre 2012 - 05:25

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The first time around, I spend half an hour figuring out which one to save. I chose Ashley the first time, because she's one of the only Soldiers I like in the entire trilogy. Though I'm going through my second playthrough, intending to save Kaiden. Only because I'm going to romance him. I've grown to hate them both, being able to tolerate Ashley because she seems a little bit more...Softer, with her words. Whereas Kaiden is just flat out mean.

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Posté 10 septembre 2012 - 01:03

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Ashley may be a soldier, but hates aliens, is not needed, and has minimal comprehension of what it takes to be a great alliance soldier if it's not land only. kaidan is balanced, doesn't hate aliens, has tons of commendations (see dr. chakwas for info on him on that) as well as being a good soldier with good feedback on missions and one heck of a biotic. I've run most of my recent games with him on EVERY team except first run at luna mission where I needed tali and garrus. That's a mission best left till leveled up with weapons then you can do it with anyone. Give kaidan a HWMPP (abbr?) with 250 damage and he's got all the 'soldier' weapon power he needs, plus biotic. Level up his pistol fast, give him good armor, and give him lift and throw asap (but sentinel first) and he's quite the power. Ashely lacks the diversity, is racist, is an idiot, is lacking knowledge of what it is to be a soldier beyond that it runs in her family. Kaidan has balance, wisdom and had it hard with the whole jump zero situation but didn't end up hating aliens. Became a great soldier with lots of commendations and oh yeah, is guarding the bomb with geth pouring out all over the site. How can you not save him? That seems risky despite it's rigged so you don't have to save him or protect him and the bomb. And let's not forget Ash really wanted to go with the salarians and got all uppity when kaidan says 'with all due respect' in a not rude manner but is just feeling he would be doing the best for the team. She takes it personally. Let her die every time now. Favorite part of the game is ridding my team of her. It's all I can do to not tell Kirrahe 'eh, no loss' regarding her death.

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Amish Love Machine
Posté 10 septembre 2012 - 01:30

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When I did my first run back in '07 I decided to let Kaiden take the dirt nap. I think my decision back then was due to the Carth Onasi syndrome as KOTOR was still relatively fresh in my mind. My femshep was digging on Liara anyway so it didn't matter which one died. Ashley died last night (doing run through #2) since my femshep has a thing for him. Plus, Ashley was a jerk to me in ME2 and the start of ME3. I want to see how the relationship with Kaiden works through the second and third part of the triology.

Modifié par Amish Love Machine, 10 septembre 2012 - 01:32 .

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Darkin30
Posté 10 septembre 2012 - 06:20

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Stigandr Ogaefa wrote...

Ashely is Xenophobic and Religious.


Oh my GOD, Ashley is Religious!!! Lets go burn her at the stake

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Darkin30
Posté 10 septembre 2012 - 06:27

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Oh yes, and I always save Ashley, in my opinion one of the best characters in the game.
I think the questions she raises about not trusting aliens, and that one time she casually talks about faith in a higher power, are too mature for some of the audience.

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Posté 18 septembre 2012 - 06:43

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Darkin30 wrote...

Oh yes, and I always save Ashley, in my opinion one of the best characters in the game.
I think the questions she raises about not trusting aliens, and that one time she casually talks about faith in a higher power, are too mature for some of the audience.


Her questions about trusting the aliens are valid but I wouldn't say mature. In fact, if you move forward, you see that unless Ashley gets her on board with aliens, she's going to be a huge problem. Without going into future ME games, her distrust could be detrimental and it's a pretty strong core attitude. Nothing wise or mature there. You're in a galaxy of aliens. You have to build alliances with them along the way and learn to trust each other much like living on earth we have to learn to trust other races and religions and not segratate ourselves as that has been the reason for massive death tolls..... religious issues and race issues. She actually represents that quite perfectly and if you have taken college level history you see that she's quite likely going to be the biggest detriment in playing future games. Also, how do you know she won't turn against you for trusting allies and other species with her attitude?

After I heard her little speeches, (since I didn't play the conversation aspects in my original two games) and had played the kaidan romance and got to know him, I realized he was the most balanced crew of the two, had commendations and the most mature perspective on it as well as being able to see where the council was behaving questionably at times. Ashley, too young, naive, and narrow minded without having the ability to see the broader picture was definitely the best one to sacrafice in a situation where you need your strongest team moving forward as things get tougher. I'd have tossed her even without the romance with kaiden. In fact, I will in a future run.

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Posté 24 septembre 2012 - 12:02

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I have always saved Ash...I liked her slight distrust of aliens and her talk of faith, made me able to relate to her a bit. Kaidan sorta annoys me, can't explain why. Considered doing it different in ME3 but when I heard he was a promoted to Major I ended it, screw his ass being promoted higher than my Shep.

By the end of the games I go my friend crew of Garrus and Vega, so no need for Kaidan.

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Demonique
Posté 24 septembre 2012 - 02:42

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Saved Kaidan the first time around because I was romancing him. Second PT I brought Wrex and Ashley with me everywhere and heard the first convo in this video and got a new ship



Basically I always save Ashley because I ship her with Wrex

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Kel Riever
Posté 26 septembre 2012 - 04:33

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I saved Ashley in my playthrough and I have no regrets. She is a more interesting character in the sense that she isn't perfect. Plus, saving her looked cooler. There, there you have it.

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Posté 28 septembre 2012 - 01:50

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I missed one of the last conversations with ash in earlier playthoughs and in this one, I discovered her grandfather lost his honor for turning himself over to the turians to save his men serving under him. That tarnished the family name forever and was why she had crap assignments. I feel like if I had asked Ash would she rather die to save the galaxy and redeem her family name or live and who knows what the future would hold for her but she might never get a chance to restore honor to her family name again, I am certain she'd have chosen to restore her family name. That seemed to me to be at the core of her xenophobia if you ask me. Having the family name tarnished in the war with the turians because her grandfather surrendered to save his men would cause a huge reason to hate aliens, especially when it's gone down through generations. I do feel she had far less experience than kaidan and honestly, I favor kaidan's biotics in gameplay. More fun than just shooting.

Heck, I even came to loathe kaidan at times in ME2 and ME3 (neediness and nurturing needed to get him on my team in ME3 and so angry with my femshep at horizon), but I can understand where he's coming from even though I felt he was wrong since alliance and council weren't doing squat while humans were abducted in the tens of thousands. But kaidan lived with survivor guilt for two years then discovers she's with cerberus and after doing noveria first in one game then doing the side missions with the rachni horrors (listening posts and depot sigma), I even loath cerberus more than before just as he did. So I get it. But even with all the crap I had to deal with to revive a romance with him (basically he needed coddling though I understand Ash does too), I still save him because I believe Ash would rather die to restore her family name (especially since it seemed what her grandfather did was to save him men rather than a selfish act) at that point without her knowing her future. She dies a hero helping to bring down saren. All the other stuff aside, I think to her character, that would be something she'd WANT to do. So I give her the honor, and the Salarians see her as a hero and she gets to restore her family name as part of a major battle against saren. Win!

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Posté 29 septembre 2012 - 04:15

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Because I can't pick Liara? I loved them both and really wanted to keep them but I have to pick then so be it. I've picked them according to the playthrough for variety although Kaidan's is the only one I've taken up to ME3.

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Posté 04 octobre 2012 - 01:13

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I always choose Kaidan, he's my Shepard's close friend and preference for a squad mate. Except from refusing to join in in fighting the Collectors, he's always been at the gates of Hell with Garrus and Shepard.  He's honest and serves with integrity, never making a situation any more worse instead helping resolve it.
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