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[TheZoolook]

 Well.. i just wanted to shag Ashley in Mass Effect 3...

[Sentibunny]

My manshep was going to romance him in ME3, but I decided I wanted to try Liara instead. I stayed with her in LOTSB and by Mass Effect 3 I felt that my Shepard's personality would prevent him from leaving Liara.

[PR_]

I am in my third playtrough, i'm thinking of saving Kaidan, but, he is so boring and empty, Ashely is nice, useful but she is racist and xenophobic, but she is more interesting than Kaidan.

[PsiFive]

PR_ wrote...

I am in my third playtrough, i'm thinking of saving Kaidan, but, he is so boring and empty, Ashely is nice, useful but she is racist and xenophobic, but she is more interesting than Kaidan.

Have you ever kept Ashley alive and brought her with you on your final visit to the Citadel when you talk to the Terra Firma guy? If you think she's a racist my guess is that you haven't. People who've pegged her as a racist may be surprised when she has a go at the Terra Firma bloke for being a bunch of racists who don't know what they're talking about and are just looking for reasons to fight with aliens. She's a long way from being my favourite character in the game (as is Kaiden - I often say I'd leave them both on Virmire if I could) but she isn't really a racist and even xenophobe may be an exaggeration.

[Riven_Amell]

I've played ME1 three times and all of them I've had Kaidan taking care of the bomb and Ashley with the Salarians. The first run through I saved Kaidan, not because he was my Shep's LI but honestly thought Ashley would make it. In all the limited guides I read when I was stuck I had no idea what 'VS' meant and realized I couldn't turn around to get her I was like WTH! Can't say I really liked her but was quite shocked and bitter.

The second play through I really hated that decision and left it on pause while I went about doing chores for a few hours lol - pondering my choice. I don't even know why it's so hard considering I neither hate nor love both characters, I probably would never have finished the series if it was a Liara vs Garrus choice. But anyway, I got my son (who was 4 at the time) to move the mouse around and click on things for both my second and third runs (saved Kaidan in second and Ashley in third). Now that my son can read and report back using that method doesn't quite work so well anymore so I just download other peoples saves

[ViciousCargo]

PsiFive wrote...

PR_ wrote...

I am in my third playtrough, i'm thinking of saving Kaidan, but, he is so boring and empty, Ashely is nice, useful but she is racist and xenophobic, but she is more interesting than Kaidan.

Have you ever kept Ashley alive and brought her with you on your final visit to the Citadel when you talk to the Terra Firma guy? If you think she's a racist my guess is that you haven't. People who've pegged her as a racist may be surprised when she has a go at the Terra Firma bloke for being a bunch of racists who don't know what they're talking about and are just looking for reasons to fight with aliens. She's a long way from being my favourite character in the game (as is Kaiden - I often say I'd leave them both on Virmire if I could) but she isn't really a racist and even xenophobe may be an exaggeration.

I am in full agreement with you.  Plus, if you talk to Ashley after Noveria, she will tell you to speak to Liara because she may be hurting from her mother's demise.  If she was racist why would she care about Liara's feelings?  Think about it.  She is cautious, not racist, toward aliens. 

[T-Raks]

As a man, it's kids (future), women (no kids without them), elderly, men. Depending on the situation elderly before women. So that gave Ashley the lead.

Then from a story standpoint I always send her with the Salarian team because she is the better soldier and Kaidan with the bomb because he is more into tech. When I leave to help Ash and the Salarians, going back always seems counterproductive to me (questioning the own decision, being indecisive) and more risky in the sense that I could lose both and Kaidan might have to pull the trigger on the bomb before I get back - so everyone could die. That's why I always go on and try to save Ash before Kaidan has to initiate the detonation.

[Ploppytheman]

Chivalry. Woman always gets picked over man in choice of who dies. She shouldn't even be in the military at all but if she is gonna be stupid at least I can protect her. I mean come on lol, a woman as a combat soldier? Women are too weak mentally and physically for that kind of work... how many hot chicks are gonna go join the military, about zero, and they don't even pick a strong woman I could snap her in half like a dry twig.




Also LOL racism being brought up. These are creatures of another species it isnt racism. There is no reason to trust them at all and although they may be individuals their race is a threat to humanitys freedom and soverignty (no pun intended). Being catious and skeptical of aliens who have tons of wars with each other and genocide each other (rachni, krogans, protheans, geth) is VERY intelligent and the people who apply the word "racism" are PC idiots. This is war and empires not workplace equality trash.

Hell I don't even trust fellow man that much, in fact I don't trust them at all.

Soft headed soft hearted fools...

Modifié par Ploppytheman, 24 janvier 2013 - 12:54 .

[Sir George Parr]

Because i 'd not played a Male shepard in ME and needed someone beside Liara to romance as my Female Shepard was already romancing her.
While Liara is very feminine, Ashley seems more of a tom boy as i just can't think of a better way to describe her. It just made her different from Liara.

[TheCampingTree3]

I saved Kaidan, although i always play as maleshep, mainly because Ash is a total b!tch to all aliens, such as Liara, Garus, Wrex, Tali you name it. I always romance Liara so i don't really have any use for Ash at all, and quite frankly she sucks in battle, so i NEVER take her during missions unless i have to. Kaidan never does anything to ****** anyone off, and although i hardly ever bring him on missions, he makes Ash look like a steaming pile of spewed out crap compared to his biotics. I've only saved Ash once, but she is so f**king annoying and stupid i normally let her blow herself up with a nuke , while i save Captain Kirrahe and Kaidan. I know the "Man is supposed to save the Lady", but in ME it's way better to have kaidan around then a annoying racist that always try's to ****** all aliens off
 

Modifié par TheCampingTree3, 27 janvier 2013 - 09:59 .

[PsiFive]

Lathrim wrote...

People who think Ashley is racist need to pay more attention and stop overreacting, methinks.

Yep. I don't particularly like her but a racist she is not, as demonstrated by her calling out the Earth First crowd as racists in at least two conversations I can think of. In my earliest playthroughs I'd have agreed more with the claim that she's not much use, but that applied to Kaiden too as I was playing Soldiers almost exclusively and in ME1 a Soldier Shepard can really get on fine with Tali and Liara just about everywhere. Wasn't until I'd began playing Adepts and Engineers that I started getting more out of Ashley, and Kaiden to a lesser extent.

[windsupernova]

Personally I sent Kaidan with the Salarians because he was the higher ranking officer and him being a tech would mean he would be able to keep comms up better in case something went wrong.

Ashley was not ready to go on a ¨solo¨ mission anyways since she didn´t seemn to cope to well with the fate of her squad on Eden Prime, I didn´t want her panicking. I think this makes a lot of sense in all situations.

As for who I saved? My 1st time I saved Ash because I couldn´t risk the bomb not going off. Although I can see good reasons for going to the AA tower(We don´t want that reactivated, the bomb was rigged to explode anyways, to save as many people as possible)

Skill wise The Salarians are meant to draw attention anyways so as far as whose abilities would help more in that I would think a Tech and Biotic would be more useful.

Resource wise I do think Kaidan is more valuable for the Alliance than Ashley. The game goes out of its way to remind you that Ashley is a good soldier but she keeps second guessing his superiors all the time...

[sentinel_87]

I saved Kaiden for the sole reason that he was in my squad for five whole minutes longer than Ashley was when I first played.

I also sent him with the Salarians, so saving him also saves them. I like each character about the same though.

In the end though, it was because he was in the game earlier that Ashley.

[Tidal Resonance]

I went with saving Ashley yesterday.  Firstly, I was determined that whoever I was going to chose to save would go with the Salarians so that I could save them also.  However, I had already decided, before going to Virmire, that it was going to be Ashley who lived so I sent her with the Salarians.  If no one had to die I would have preferred this set-up anyways. 

It seemed to me that Kaidan was prepared for his death and his statement that he "had no regrets" were appropriate for him.  While I considered that both characters were prepared to die on the mission, it seemed that if the "time" of one of the two had to be up then it would be Kaidan's before Ashley's.  For Ashley to die on Virmire would be too soon.  Her death needed to be averted more than Kaidan's.  I did not want Kaidan to die, but it appeared to me that his death on Virmire was easier to accept than Ashley's.     

Also, if Ashley died then it would undo the romance link up between Shepard with Ashley, which I did not want to end.  Although I consider this a "meta-game" consideration, which was separate from the "in-game" Shepard's considerations.

Modifié par Tidal Resonance, 31 janvier 2013 - 03:59 .

[fgalkin]

I've hated Anomen, and Carth, and Alistair, and Kaidan was the exact same character. He even had Carth's voice actor. I never hesitated for a second.

Being able to have 2.5 Kaidan-free games is the greatest thing about the Mass Effect series, IMHO.

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

[LordMollecht]

I save Ashley because she is nicer to look at than Kaidan 'I just get these headaches' Alenko

[Bullseye_Sally]

dawsdgd wrote...

Your honest reason for saving either ashley or Kaiden?

My honest reason?  Because I love me some Kaidan!!!!  He is so sexy.  That is all.<3

[Dabrikishaw]

I save Kaiden because I like him as a person more than Ashley.

[Lunch Box1912]

Sent Kaiden to his death, he never seemed sure about himself, he was whinny and he was in pain from his implants anyway. I felt I was putting him out of his misery.

Ashley seemed like a much more interesting character than Kaiden, It was disappointing to see ME3 Ashley vs ME1 Ashley, they really dumbed her down.

Modifié par Lunch Box1912, 14 février 2013 - 01:29 .

[July R. Legend]

If I'm experimenting with playthroughs on ME1 then it could be either one of them. It's nice seeing both sides of the story.
However, if I'm doing a full trilogy & serious playthrough then my final choice is Kaidan. Ashley is annoying as f***. I honestly can't stand listening to her. A combination of her ugliness, religious beliefs, and poetic jestures is what lost my appeal to the character. Finally, there's this issue I have where she is getting along with her family quite well? People think Kaidan is boring!?! Well then those people don't know the very definition of boring to watch a character with no personal family issues, that has a regular life like everyone else! Anyway, I've gone into this long enough.

I respect Kaidan for not being biased, and I respect him even more for being restrained as well as he is (with the exception of ME2).He's a good person too. There's really not much to hate about that. Only those that give him a chance will truely understand.

[Drayce333]

Kaiden's cool and superior than ashleigh in every regard.

I wanted marksman in ME3 for that one ashleigh save playthrough.

[beachbumisun]

I always save Ashley. I can't bring myself to save Kaidan.

Ashley is hot and Kaidan is a tool lol and Ashley is even hotter in Mass Effect 3. I'm programmed to preserve the hot chicks and let the goofy toolboxes perish on Virmire lol