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[Vazgen]

Who does Kirrahe pick when you let him decide who to take?

Is it random?

Kirrahe doesn't care. He mentions that Kaidan is a good choice because he's eager

[Farangbaa]

Kirrahe doesn't care. He mentions that Kaidan is a good choice because he's eager

 

Well it should be obvious I always pick for him. I don't think that much of Kirahhe. Don't like his speech either.. but I know I'm in the minority on that.

[themikefest]

The majority of the time I send Kaidan with Kirrahe

 

Kirrahe's speech on Virmire is good. I also like the speech he gives on Earth in ME3

[Darius M.]

But wait, wasn't Ashley only with ONE of the fireteams??? I didn't think the salarians were ALL in that tower...

 

I thought Ashley and her team were only one of three, (Mannovai, Jaeto, and one other one I can't remember) and that Kirahee was definitely NOT with the same team as Ash because they give status updates squad to squad as you assault the facility. I thought Kirahee led one squad, Commander Rentola led another, and Ash led the third. My understanding (please correct me if I'm understanding it wrong) was that Ash and her team had just gotten pinned down and were separated from everyone. I had always thought that by going back to the bomb site, I was saving Kirahee's main team, and one other diversion team, but the third with Ash in it was unfortunately sacrificed because of the needs of the mission (my earlier post).

 

I just thought they forgot to put in a cutscene for the Salarians getting back on board if at the bomb site.

[Vazgen]

But wait, wasn't Ashley only with ONE of the fireteams??? I didn't think the salarians were ALL in that tower...

 

I thought Ashley and her team were only one of three, (Mannovai, Jaeto, and one other one I can't remember) and that Kirahee was definitely NOT with the same team as Ash because they give status updates squad to squad as you assault the facility. I thought Kirahee led one squad, Commander Rentola led another, and Ash led the third. My understanding (please correct me if I'm understanding it wrong) was that Ash and her team had just gotten pinned down and were separated from everyone. I had always thought that by going back to the bomb site, I was saving Kirahee's main team, and one other diversion team, but the third with Ash in it was unfortunately sacrificed because of the needs of the mission (my earlier post).

 

I just thought they forgot to put in a cutscene for the Salarians getting back on board if at the bomb site.

So why didn't Shepard save Ash instead of Kirrahe? Or instead of Commander Rentola (who's also saved)?

[Darius M.]

Because I thought that Kirahee's and Rentola's teams had already regrouped back at the Normandy (my thinking went along the lines that their whole objective was to be a big enough diversion to get shadow team to the bomb site.) That objective was now achieved, and they couldn't do any more good at wherever the front lines were, so they would regroup back to the ship. I thought they extracted before/during the fight with Saren at the bomb site. My perception was that Ash overextended her team's arcs of fire in the AA tower, and got pinned down/cut off from the others falling back to the rally point.

 

Then in that situation I thought Kirahee had already made a similar tough call to the one I did: I need to extract the men from the TWO teams I still have rather than get more squad members killed (and NO one make the rally point) trying to save this one team. So my guess was he had his and Commander Rentola's teams exvill to the Normandy, and they were already onboard when Shepard finally gets aboard with the bomb expert.

 

I was under the impression that all this happened and they just forgot to make a cutscene (or any official explanation ) for this happening. What do you think?

[Han Shot First]

But wait, wasn't Ashley only with ONE of the fireteams??? I didn't think the salarians were ALL in that tower...

 

 

I think that was all that was left of all three Salarian teams. They link up at the AA Tower, but they took casualties along the way and are reduced in number. 

[Vazgen]

Captain Kirrahe is at the AA tower. You can see him when you go there, fighting alongside you

Edit: just watched that section to refresh the memory

[Darius M.]

Oh... Well then thank you for the insight. I hadn't realized that. If that's the case, I stand corrected. I don't know that it would radically change my outlook on the mission if Kirahee was in the tower (the bomb's integrity is still too central to the mission and too high a priority imo) but that definitely makes me agree with your question:

 

Just how the hell DID Kirahee get back onto the Normandy??????

 

Salarian Jetpacks? Maybe teleporting like Vasir?

 

Another one for the X-Files...

[Han Shot First]

Oh... Well then thank you for the insight. I hadn't realized that. If that's the case, I stand corrected. I don't know that it would radically change my outlook on the mission if Kirahee was in the tower (the bomb's integrity is still too central to the mission and too high a priority imo) but that definitely makes me agree with your question:

 

Just how the hell DID Kirahee get back onto the Normandy??????

 

Salarian Jetpacks? Maybe teleporting like Vasir?

 

Another one for the X-Files...

 

That one is a bit hard to explain. I've always thought that the Salarians should have died if you had Shepard rescue whoever was at the bomb site. The Salarians should only survive if the rescue goes to the AA Tower.

 

I kind of understand why they didn't go that route. They probably didn't want to present the bomb site as the wrong choice. One way to have fixed that would be for whoever was at the bomb site be reinforced by Normandy crew members. Maybe Adams and two other Marine grunts should have been helping at the bomb site. Go to the bomb site, rescue the Virmire Survivor, Adams, and two Normandy crew members. Go to the AA Tower and instead you rescue the Virmire Survivor, and any surviving STG including Kirrahe and/or Rentola.

[Vazgen]

As I recall, there are a few human soldiers that die as soon as you get to the bomb. Also bomb guard is just awesome in combat, he/she handles about 3? geth destroyers with a pistol

[Darius M.]

^^^^ I don't think that would be a half-bad idea, but given the paragon/renegade tendencies of the rest of the game, if the situation had indeed happened as you laid out, wouldn't one option have to be paragon and the other be renegade? Would there be those implications for it? I only ask because the rest of the game seems to center its "morality" (for lack of better way to say it) on whether or not you cooperate with other races.

 

Renegade typically equals humanity first and at any cost. For example letting the council die "I'm not going to risk human lives," being a douche to alien squadmates, or supporting that Terra Firma guy running for office just to name a couple. There's also a ton of lines that mention some derogatory thing about other races when you talk to different residents on the citadel...

 

Paragon typically equals working with (and at times kowtowing to) other races. Having a "we're all in this together" type of mentality. I mean, obviously you have the sacrificing human lives to save the council, treating other races well on the Normandy, and rejecting the Terra Firma guy, etc.

 

I just wonder what you would do if you designed it like you said, and were a developer or something like that. I think it would've been a real glaring inconsistency about there being HUGE paragon or renegade implications about whether or not you use human lives to save the council or not, but lack those same implications on a late game level choice of rescue a tower full of SALARIANS or rescue the HUMAN crew... I'm interested to hear from you,

Further thoughts?

[Farangbaa]

All I have to say about that is that there should've been a lot more tough choices in the trilogy... and it should've been impossible to finish the SM of ME2 with zero casualties.

[Vazgen]

^^^^ I don't think that would be a half-bad idea, but given the paragon/renegade tendencies of the rest of the game, if the situation had indeed happened as you laid out, wouldn't one option have to be paragon and the other be renegade? Would there be those implications for it? I only ask because the rest of the game seems to center its "morality" (for lack of better way to say it) on whether or not you cooperate with other races.

 

Renegade typically equals humanity first and at any cost. For example letting the council die "I'm not going to risk human lives," being a douche to alien squadmates, or supporting that Terra Firma guy running for office just to name a couple. There's also a ton of lines that mention some derogatory thing about other races when you talk to different residents on the citadel...

 

Paragon typically equals working with (and at times kowtowing to) other races. Having a "we're all in this together" type of mentality. I mean, obviously you have the sacrificing human lives to save the council, treating other races well on the Normandy, and rejecting the Terra Firma guy, etc.

 

I just wonder what you would do if you designed it like you said, and were a developer or something like that. I think it would've been a real glaring inconsistency about there being HUGE paragon or renegade implications about whether or not you use human lives to save the council or not, but lack those same implications on a late game level choice of rescue a tower full of SALARIANS or rescue the HUMAN crew... I'm interested to hear from you,

Further thoughts?

Not really sure on this, both the salarians and that human crew don't play any active role in the game. So it'll come to Kirrahe vs Kaidan/Ash for which I think the majority will pick a squad member rather than a random salarian they've just met. Throwing a decision between two squadmates is a better balanced way to look at that IMO. They just needed to have both Ash/Kaidan and the salarian team they guard die on that tower, maybe in a cutscene like for the bomb guard

[Riven326]

Honest reason? I liked Ashley more. I like to talk to Ash about her family it's something that seems real.

 

This.

 

Kaiden's small amount of character development consisted of talks about the Alliance and it's treatment and development of human biotics. It's interesting on it's own, but it doesn't tell us much about Kaiden himself. He talked a little about a girl he liked while he was at Jump Zero, but that's pretty much it.

[Mrs_Stick]

I always play ME1 like this. I send Ash with the Salarians and leave Kaidan at the bomb site. Now when having to choose...do I save someone who is pinned down or go back and make sure that no matter what the Geth don't get to the bomb in time to defuse it. So with my sense of logic I always save Kaidan. And no I have only romanced him once Garrus is my guy. 

[n7stormreaver]

I just hate Ashely to the point i don't even care.

 

And i still kill Kaidan on Citadel.

[Alfonsedode]

I never saved Kaidan, cause i fin d ashley more fun. I d like to know how is the kaidan story along ME trilogy to see what i have missed, but as i m not going to go for more than one another playthrough, i m not even sure what i will do.

Maybe Youtube can cover that ?

 

I just hate Ashely to the point i don't even care.

 

And i still kill Kaidan on Citadel.

Is that during me 3 ? i don t see where that coud take place...

[Loufi]

I never saved Kaidan, cause i fin d ashley more fun. I d like to know how is the kaidan story along ME trilogy to see what i have missed, but as i m not going to go for more than one another playthrough, i m not even sure what i will do.

Maybe Youtube can cover that ?

 

Is that during me 3 ? i don t see where that coud take place...

Yes, when Cerberus attacks the Citadel, at the end of the mission.

 

On topic : I admit, I saved Ashley because I planned to b**g her. Plus, she is funnier than Kaidan, who is too serious.

[Madrict]

lol, I don't get why people hate on Kaidan. He is my favourite companion in the ME series. I love his character, nothing boring about him 

[TurianRebel212]

Bewbs. 

[SporkFu]

lol, I don't get why people hate on Kaidan. He is my favourite companion in the ME series. I love his character, nothing boring about him 

Speaking for myself, Carth Onasi (from KotOR) flashbacks. *shudder* 

[Stronglav]

Ash-rasict b.tch

Kaiden:lick a.ss willbe gay.

??

Kill them both.

Ok Kaiden first.

I just can't deny myself plesure to shoot Ashley in ME3. 

[Purple Gorilla]

Ash-rasict b.tch
Kaiden:lick a.ss willbe gay.
??
Kill them both.
Ok Kaiden first.
I just can't deny myself plesure to shoot Ashley in ME3. 

You are a very disturbing individual.

[Purple Gorilla]

I think Carth is a great character, by the way. Shrug.