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[Avispex]

So, a little about me. I have purchased 4 versions of Baldur’s Gate, 3 versions of Baldur’s Gate 2, 3 versions of Neverwinter Nights, 2  versions of Jade Empire, 2 versions of Knights of the Old Republic, and most recently, a Collector’s Edition copy of Dragon Age Origins for PC. These are registered to my Bioware account. You can check.
Three weeks ago I went to a local retailer to pre-order my Collector’s Edition of Dragon Age Origins. They had run out of pre-orders for that, so I pre-ordered the regular edition. Then last Monday evening I went back to the store and paid to upgrade my pre-order to the Collector’s Edition because they had been sent two more copies than had been pre-ordered. Then I went back to the store at midnight and picked it up. I installed the game and made sure that I used the same account as for the Character Creator and that it was an EA Master Account. You can check all of this with this account to see what pre-order bonuses and collector’s edition bonuses have been registered to this account. In fact, please do.
I then paid an additional amount for the Warden’s Keep DLC, which required more personal information than is normal for an online transaction involving Paypal, but I went through that as well.
I then played through 5 hours of the Dragon Age Journeys website to get the unlockable in game content from the flash game.
All in all, do you have any idea how many codes I have entered, how many different forms and registrations I have filled out, and how much personal information I have provided about myself in order to play this game and this content? I have login accounts at EA, BioWare, The Dragon Age Social Beta, Dragon Age Journeys, and in the game itself!!!
Add to this the idea that if I had purchased the digital copy there would be no disc check to play!
So, am I a loyal customer? I would say so. 
Have I done my part to register, authorize, sign up, login, etc? I would say so.
There is absolutely no purpose or value to the inconvenience of forcing the people who purchased physical copies to make sure the disc is in the drive at all times. God forbid I should ever actually use my computer for anything aside from a Dragon Age disc holder.
Let me ask you, when you are at work, how would you feel if every time you used a piece of software whether it be a web browser or Microsoft Office you needed to scuttle about and fine your one and only copy of the disc and keep it in the drive? Codewarrior? Where did I leave that disc? Email?  Damn, that disc got scratched. It is an inconvenience that can not be justified given the amount of registration I have provided for this software.
I am asking you to remove the disc check from Dragon Age Origins immediately for all registered users whom you are punishing for having purchased the physical copy. 

Modifié par Avispex, 20 novembre 2009 - 05:58 .

[Denlath Vestor]

You're kidding me, right?

I mean, this is a joke post, isn't it?

You can't be serious -

nahhh, can't be...

GAWD! It is SO time consuming and difficult to put in that disk! The nerve!!!

Modifié par Denlath Vestor, 11 novembre 2009 - 04:30 .

[social_networking_ftl]

Mail them the proof of purchase cut from the Collector's Edition box, copies of your last tax return, DNA and thumbprint samples, and a letter of recommendation from your high school gym teacher and they will disable the disc check.

[MichealorMike]

As with nearly every modern game, there are "unofficial" ways around the disc check. Personally, I don't think it's that much of a problem but if you do than Goolge is your friend.

[Direbrute]

I agree - it's annoying, but not all that frustrating. Fortunately I don't swap discs that often so my DA:O DVD just stays in there undisturbed.

EDIT: Any make a backup copy of your game DVD. Might not be legal or whatever, but if there's a disk check then I'm not going to risk it. Sorry, but I bought the game legit so I'll make a backup copy for myself.

Modifié par Direbrute, 11 novembre 2009 - 04:35 .

[lawsie100]

its actually why i buy my games from steam now. There IS an alternative you know?

[SheffSteel]

It would be inconvenient for me too... assuming I ever took the disk out of the drive.



Considering that piracy is a concern, I'm afraid the OP will have to wait for a future patch... which might be quite some time in coming.

[Mrbluray]

Learn not to be a pirate.

[Kraptor79]

Just buy the digital download version, no DVD needed for that:)

[merak43]

and with the "good" reputation starforce and securom has lets use them instead

Modifié par merak43, 11 novembre 2009 - 04:37 .

[Nameless_1]

Yeah, but guys let's face it. Disk checks are about as effective at battling game pirates as bee bee gun at battling real pirates. So while it's not time consuming to change disks, it is annoying, especially if you have other games that have disks and you like to play several games during an evening play session.



And I don't even really care too much because I bought it off of steam so I don't have to have a disk, but for other games I have it and it's annoying. Gaming companies need to move on and realise that 99% of their efforts to prevent piracy are unsuccesful, and are just a waste of money.

[Evilsod]

The joys of Steam... i haven't had to **** around putting discs in when i play games and i'd rather not have to, its just irritating. Theres no reason for it and as said, there are ALWAYS unofficial 'no disc' patches, why bother adding it at all.

[stephen6119]

wow i feel soooo sorry for you....what a difficult life....I don't know how you've survived this long...

[GravityParade]

You should have the option to play without the disc if you log into EA. If you log into EA, that verifies your game version and registration, so the disc check wouldn't be necessary. That's my 2 cents.

[lawsie100]

if they took disc protection off games, you do realise that anyone who owns the game could install it on anyone elses computer and let them play it there too yeah? It would be chaos for the games industry where 1 copy bought means around 10 people are using it. Think about it for a second jeez. Not everyone who doesnt own a game goes out and gets the pirated version, if my friend had a game i liked and it had no disc protection, hell yeah im installing it on my pc. If it does then i would buy it simple as that.

[Martin E]

I'm sure if you 'banked' the time it took to write the post - that would cover quite a few disc switches.

[Rasix Tinypants]

To the person that mentioned burning a backup copy as illegal -



It is legal to make a backup copy of any piece of software provided that you own the original and maintain a proof of purchase. At least that's always what I've read.

[Raedris]

With the amount of time you've spent writing that post I imagine you could press "eject" quite a few times....


I've got it on the xbox, how do you think *I* feel!? If I want to change game I have to get up, walk over to it (must be at least 2 yards away), eject the disc, put it back, get another out, put it in, and close the tray.

It's exhausting, I tell thee

[SheffSteel]

Putting a lock on your front door is pretty useless at stopping burglars, yet we all continue to think it's worth spending the money on.

[Rakan13]

wow having to put a disc in your dvd drive is so hard.... so very very hard...

[Nameless_1]

You can still do that with even with a game that has disk check. Just have to download a crack that's easily found on google, and install it on any PC you want and play. Disk checks do nothing to prevent piracy.  There are better ways around piracy like requiring on-line registration. That's a far better tool, although, people still find ways around that, but not as easily.

lawsie100 wrote...

if they took disc protection off games, you do realise that anyone who owns the game could install it on anyone elses computer and let them play it there too yeah? It would be chaos for the games industry where 1 copy bought means around 10 people are using it. Think about it for a second jeez. Not everyone who doesnt own a game goes out and gets the pirated version, if my friend had a game i liked and it had no disc protection, hell yeah im installing it on my pc. If it does then i would buy it simple as that.

[Mrbluray]

Rasix Tinypants wrote...

To the person that mentioned burning a backup copy as illegal -

It is legal to make a backup copy of any piece of software provided that you own the original and maintain a proof of purchase. At least that's always what I've read.

No.

Learn not to be a criminal. 

You can not legally own any piece of software.  You only own the right to use the software.

[Xzenorath]

lol I find the replies about piracy ridiculous at best.



Actual game owners are getting shafted while pirates get to play without having to pay AND without having to use a physical disk.



However, since you're legit, if you really don't want to have to put up with the disk check, google No-DVD for dragon-age, I'm sure you'll find yourself relieved quickly enough.



I'm not gonna lie, disk checks are so 1998. Get with the program Bioware. It never worked and never will, it's an annoyance at best. Everyone has access to torrents of cracked versions and you can easily obtain a no-cd .exe everywhere on the internet.



It's really just a hindrance to people who actually paid for a physical copy of your game.