Adhin wrote...
Yeah, because hes Cerberus. They're evil. The only good they do is get Shep back and you know that's mostly so TIM can save his skin and hopefully get his hands on doomday **** so he can play overlord to the galaxy.
Kitteh303 wrote...
"The prize" comment is what ticked me off. I don't like the idea of my Shep being some kind of sex object. I know he probably didn't mean it like that, but...
And in combat it takes him 2 seconds to drop like a ragdoll.
What is it exactly he says about Garrus and Thane? Cuttlebone and... something?
ADLegend21 wrote...
also he's the only character (besides Liara with the DLC) that asks how Shepard feels so how anyone can hate or dislike the guy for not dumping his life sotry on shepard and asking about her is beyond me. (end rant)
lizzbee wrote...
I personally blame a person for showing racial bias when emotions make them let their facade down. Really, he could have found a lot of *other* things to focus on during said breakup scenes. "You're dumping me for an *assassin?* Someone who kills for payment?" or "That nerd? What does he think you do with a woman? Calibrate her?"
lazuli wrote...
Fair enough, if they were all humans. I don't know how common turian/human relationships are, or drell/human. But judging from the Garrus romance ("Are we crazy to even be thinking about this?") they can't be too common. This isn't "You're leaving me for a white guy?" It's "You're leaving me for a man of a different species with a completely incompatible genetic structure whose semen could in fact kill you?"
Mike2640 wrote...
In defense of Jacob, Shepard was pretty
cold with that "Cleaning house" line. He was caught off guard, probably
never even thought of Garrus as a possibility before then, and lashed
out. It happens, doesn't make him prejudiced, it just makes him flawed
like everyone else.
The writers really let her down in her interactions with Jacob. I always found it downright creepy how she turns into the stereotypically predatory cougar in trying even to talk with him on a friendly basis. Yuck. The whole romance is fraught with itchy grodiness on both sides.
lizzbee wrote...
I don't think "human" status had anything to do with it. Jacob's voiced objections to Thane, for example, have to do with Thane's career, not with his appearance and species. At least until FemShep breaks up with him, that is. It makes sense to object on the same basis once again, no? At least if you don't harbor some anti-alien bias. There's also a hint of sexism in his response to a Thane-related breakup, especially. Ick.
lazuli wrote...
tommyt_1994 wrote...
-His racial comments towards Garrus and Thane in the love triangle scenario also irritate me. Most characters say tell shep that he/she needs to make a choice, and most seem to accept Shep's choice if Shep chooses the other person. But Jacob lashes out and calls Garrus a "cuttlebone" and makes a remark towards Thane's eyes that seems as though he's trying to insult him. It goes along the line of "Women always go after the drell eye's" or somehting similar. His tone was quite peeved, and it just seemed out of line.
So you're going to blame a person for reacting emotionally when he finds out someone close to him has been lying, perhaps about everything? In those situations, I think humans are expected to act a little impulsively or otherwise "out of line."
As for the Tali comment, it doesn't fit. He would have to know how Tali would take it, so I think it's just poorly written. I don't think he would go out of his way to be rude to Tali. He doesn't have a reason to, at least not one known to us. And his delivery of that line leads me to believe that he's making a genuine overture of peace, even if it's horribly misguided.
Shadow_broker wrote...
My theory on why Jacob is disliked
4:He's Black, Yes i'm going there. This is not the main reason but i think Jacobs Very african Appearnce made some people dislike him. Kadian was just as boring but SOME people like him
Modifié par stewie1974, 13 septembre 2010 - 03:29 .
stewie1974 wrote...
I wish he had "issues" like the rest of the crew and wasn't made "Normal" or "Vanillia" for fears of misrepresentation or racial sterotyping.
GodWood wrote...
Jacob is the personification of meh.
TheKillerAngel wrote...
lazuli wrote...
tommyt_1994 wrote...
-His racial comments towards Garrus and Thane in the love triangle scenario also irritate me. Most characters say tell shep that he/she needs to make a choice, and most seem to accept Shep's choice if Shep chooses the other person. But Jacob lashes out and calls Garrus a "cuttlebone" and makes a remark towards Thane's eyes that seems as though he's trying to insult him. It goes along the line of "Women always go after the drell eye's" or somehting similar. His tone was quite peeved, and it just seemed out of line.
So you're going to blame a person for reacting emotionally when he finds out someone close to him has been lying, perhaps about everything? In those situations, I think humans are expected to act a little impulsively or otherwise "out of line."
As for the Tali comment, it doesn't fit. He would have to know how Tali would take it, so I think it's just poorly written. I don't think he would go out of his way to be rude to Tali. He doesn't have a reason to, at least not one known to us. And his delivery of that line leads me to believe that he's making a genuine overture of peace, even if it's horribly misguided.
Here, Jacob tells you to "hang on to Garrus."
If you lock the Garrus romance, then try Jacob, this is what he says.
Here is Jacob calling Garrus a "cuttlebone," which happens if Jacob is jilted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5rbBD4qEOs&feature=related
lazuli wrote...
stewie1974 wrote...
I wish he had "issues" like the rest of the crew and wasn't made "Normal" or "Vanillia" for fears of misrepresentation or racial sterotyping.
He does have issues. You could argue that he represses his emotions. If Shepard presses him about it, he gets defensive.
stewie1974 wrote...
Mundane issues at best. Compare him with someone like Jack or Zaeed or Garrus or Thane... anyone of those people could have been a "Human" and a "person of color" and it would have made didly squat difference to the awesomeness of the characters....... It seems that Jacob they didn't want to push the boat out on.
Modifié par ReiSilver, 13 septembre 2010 - 04:16 .
Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 13 septembre 2010 - 04:16 .
Upsettingshorts wrote...
Cerberus aren't terrorists. That is legitimately Alliance propaganda.
Murderers, criminals, unethical, shadow-organization, pro-human... all valid descriptions of Cerberus.
Terrorism uses fear as a tool to advance an agenda. For Cerberus, terror is a side-effect, not a tactic.
Loaded term is loaded.
Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 13 septembre 2010 - 04:25 .
Upsettingshorts wrote...
Jacob works with Cerberus for - more or less - the same reason Shepard does. It's not like there's a convenient third-way option available for the skilled human who doesn't want to get bogged down in political red tape.
If there was such an option, I imagine that's where Jacob and a Paragon Shepard would be. There isn't.
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