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[krogen117]

Op can't be serious, i despise jrpg's for that simple reason.

[Azaron Nightblade]

krogen117 wrote...

Op can't be serious, i despise jrpg's for that simple reason.

Hah, I actually think it works for those, but for DA* I'd have to say no.

* DA and every other RPG that's trying to establish a serious setting.

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

David Gaider wrote...

If there was a child in the party they wouldn't be able to engage in combat. Restrictions in some markets would prevent that-- Germany, for instance, forbids any violence being done to children on-screen.

The creators of Prey diddnt seem to worry about that.

Modifié par Mr Mxyzptlk, 12 septembre 2010 - 09:31 .

[Aradace]

Sal_add wrote...

 I was just wondering do you think it would be cool to have a prodigy mage or something child in your team?

As long as it were "optional" to recruit said character I'd support it because, no matter if they're prodigies, savants, mature before their time etc etc...I just cant stand kids as a whole and would most certainly not want one in my party.  Again, if it were optional Id support it for the people who DO want one in their party but just me personally wouldnt go out of my way to recruit him/her.

[svenus97]

Ineffable Igor wrote...

Not a child maybe, but a teenager perhaps. Mission was only fourteen in KotOR.

She was...? What? I swear she said she was 18 !!!

[krasnoarmeets]

Lolz, I'm in the least bit bent out of shape. I'm just being argumentative and am fielding some relatively amusing responses out of the thick of it...

[Jarek_Cousland]

Riiiightttt..

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

jonv1234 wrote...

Mr Mxyzptlk wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

If there was a child in the party they wouldn't be able to engage in combat. Restrictions in some markets would prevent that-- Germany, for instance, forbids any violence being done to children on-screen.

The creators of Prey diddnt seem to worry about that.



Now that was a disturbing game.

They must not have released it in Germany then. Look at all the different packaging for Left 4 Dead had for the different markets.

It probably wasnt, along with Deus Ex.

[Ryllen Laerth Kriel]

One of my characters once tried to have a child in the party...but then Morrigan ran away, true story!





Khhhhhhaaaaan!

[Orbweaver]

Are violence and romance really the only two angles that can be taken with a character's storyline? As I recall, Sandal's not exactly young, but not really an adult either- and he was involved in a rather violent scene where the player's crew ends up protecting him and Bodahn from Darkspawn. He also endured the Deep Roads for several years before Bodahn found him, so I'm sure violence happened to him at some point in there. Sandal still ended up a well-liked character, despite not saying much, and still contributed to the group's overall success.



Granted, implying violence is a far different thing than actually showing it outright. Perhaps the character could actually shift between being an adult and being a child for battles? Now that would be cool beyond words, not to mention the storyline that made it possible.

[Jarek_Cousland]

Orb as soon as you made the child to adult suggestion I thought of Goku from Gt. lol

[Orbweaver]

Hopefully Bioware's team can come up with something that doesn't even come close to resembling the Dragonball Z storyline. I kind of enjoyed the first season, because the idea of a monkey imbued with power was odd and not something you saw everyday- but at some point, the writers forgot that they were supposed to be doing something besides having a bunch of characters throw various powers around, and I couldn't watch anymore.

[Jarek_Cousland]

cmon dude tell me that 3 episodes full off "KKKKKKKKKKKKKYYYYYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH" isnt just pure gold?

[captain.subtle]

David Gaider wrote...

If there was a child in the party they wouldn't be able to engage in combat. Restrictions in some markets would prevent that-- Germany, for instance, forbids any violence being done to children on-screen.

Wait.

Am I reading you right? You are saying this because its not commercially viable??????

[Saibh]

captain.subtle wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

If there was a child in the party they wouldn't be able to engage in combat. Restrictions in some markets would prevent that-- Germany, for instance, forbids any violence being done to children on-screen.

Wait.

Am I reading you right? You are saying this because its not commercially viable??????

Are you one of the folks who have a problem with a company wanting to earn a profit?

Regardless, think of their German fans. If a child companion were included, they wouldn't get the game. Wouldn't be a big hit with them.

[captain.subtle]

Saibh wrote...

captain.subtle wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

If there was a child in the party they wouldn't be able to engage in combat. Restrictions in some markets would prevent that-- Germany, for instance, forbids any violence being done to children on-screen.

Wait.

Am I reading you right? You are saying this because its not commercially viable??????

Are you one of the folks who have a problem with a company wanting to earn a profit?

Regardless, think of their German fans. If a child companion were included, they wouldn't get the game. Wouldn't be a big hit with them.

Wow.....
Here we have fanboys defending a company mindlessly ......

Stupidity and Immorality go hand in hand these days or what?

All I am saying is that portrayal of child violence is wrong in any way you put it! Conflict diamonds anyone? Can profilt alone justify that?

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

captain.subtle wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

If there was a child in the party they wouldn't be able to engage in combat. Restrictions in some markets would prevent that-- Germany, for instance, forbids any violence being done to children on-screen.

Wait.

Am I reading you right? You are saying this because its not commercially viable??????

Profits, it seems that it is all Bioware cares about these days.

[Jarek_Cousland]

Mr Mxyzptlk wrote...

captain.subtle wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

If there was a child in the party they wouldn't be able to engage in combat. Restrictions in some markets would prevent that-- Germany, for instance, forbids any violence being done to children on-screen.

Wait.

Am I reading you right? You are saying this because its not commercially viable??????

Profits, it seems that it is all Bioware cares about these days.

Not bioware, EA.

[Greifvogel]

captain.subtle wrote...

Wow.....
Here we have fanboys defending a company mindlessly ......

Stupidity and Immorality go hand in hand these days or what?

All I am saying is that portrayal of child violence is wrong in any way you put it! Conflict diamonds anyone? Can profilt alone justify that?

These men and women aren't here to preach against beating kids or insulting their customers. So yes, they can say that.

Modifié par Greifvogel, 12 septembre 2010 - 10:48 .

[Saibh]

captain.subtle wrote...

Saibh wrote...

captain.subtle wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

If there was a child in the party they wouldn't be able to engage in combat. Restrictions in some markets would prevent that-- Germany, for instance, forbids any violence being done to children on-screen.

Wait.

Am I reading you right? You are saying this because its not commercially viable??????

Are you one of the folks who have a problem with a company wanting to earn a profit?

Regardless, think of their German fans. If a child companion were included, they wouldn't get the game. Wouldn't be a big hit with them.

Wow.....
Here we have fanboys defending a company mindlessly ......

Stupidity and Immorality go hand in hand these days or what?

All I am saying is that portrayal of child violence is wrong in any way you put it! Conflict diamonds anyone? Can profilt alone justify that?

Child companions happen plenty. I've already expressed my views on them.

Regardless, I'm having trouble deciphering what you're saying. You could slit a child's throat in DAO. I'd say that fits the bill of "immorality", so don't preach to me.

[captain.subtle]

Saibh wrote...

captain.subtle wrote...

Saibh wrote...

captain.subtle wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

If there was a child in the party they wouldn't be able to engage in combat. Restrictions in some markets would prevent that-- Germany, for instance, forbids any violence being done to children on-screen.

Wait.

Am I reading you right? You are saying this because its not commercially viable??????

Are you one of the folks who have a problem with a company wanting to earn a profit?

Regardless, think of their German fans. If a child companion were included, they wouldn't get the game. Wouldn't be a big hit with them.

Wow.....
Here we have fanboys defending a company mindlessly ......

Stupidity and Immorality go hand in hand these days or what?

All I am saying is that portrayal of child violence is wrong in any way you put it! Conflict diamonds anyone? Can profilt alone justify that?

Child companions happen plenty. I've already expressed my views on them.

Regardless, I'm having trouble deciphering what you're saying. You could slit a child's throat in DAO. I'd say that fits the bill of "immorality", so don't preach to me.

Matter of fact, I did not know that until now nor am I asking when....

I actually thought you were quite sensible and serious... but now this rant simply classifies you as supporting anything the devs do with rock-armour-brain.

Firstly, I am not preaching you. Did I say anywhere that you should do this and that? I am only taking about what bioware should include or not include. I believe that I have a right to an opinion that is based on sanity. If me "preaching" bioware offends you without the sense of context, you are a zealot fanboy/girl on the forum, which is not so uncommon. I can understand that (Yes, I am condescending. Do not make a separate post on that issue).

Secondly, my sincere and sensible point is not depicting cruelty towards children. Since I was unawares towards possibility of any such act in the DA:O I should be accounted innocent of this.

Finally is it so hard to comprehend what I am saying? Why do you think Germany has this ban in the first place? Do you think they are crazy?

Modifié par captain.subtle, 12 septembre 2010 - 11:12 .

[Saibh]

captain.subtle wrote...

Matter of fact, I did not know that until now nor am I asking when....

I actually thought you were quite sensible and serious... but now this rant simply classifies you as supporting anything the devs do with rock-armour-brain.

Firstly, I am not preaching you. Did I say anywhere that you should do this and that? I am only taking about what bioware should include or not include. I believe that I have a right to an opinion that is based on sanity. If me "preaching" bioware offends you without the sense of context, you are a zealot fanboy/girl on the forum, which is not so uncommon. I can understand that (Yes, I am condescending. Do not make a separate post on that issue).

Secondly, my sincere and sensible point is not depicting cruelty towards children. Since I was unawares towards possibility of any such act in the DA:O I should be accounted innocent of this.

Finally is it so hard to comprehend what I am saying? Why do you think Germany has this ban in the first place? Do you think they are crazy?

Maybe you missed this part of your response to me:

"Here we have fanboys defending a company mindlessly ......

Stupidity and Immorality go hand in hand these days or what?"

If that was not a jab towards me I don't know what is. You were preaching at me. Originally to BioWare, and when I responded I mistook your intentions. For that I apologize.

Maybe you are innocent of not knowing Connor was killable (I have no idea why, though), but that doesn't change the fact the game contains it. I wouldn't advocate beating on a child, obviously; in DAO there was a demanding plot reason for killing him. As I said, I don't even want a kid companion anyway. I originally assumed you were objecting to BioWare's reasoning for not including a companion as being because they were sell-outs or something for scrapping ideas so they could sell to another country. That happens enough around here. I misjudged you; again, I apologize.

Still, games with a "T" rating, like FFXIII, have child companions. It depends on how it's handled in game.

[Nighteye2]

David Gaider wrote...
If there was a child in the party they wouldn't be able to engage in combat. Restrictions in some markets would prevent that-- Germany, for instance, forbids any violence being done to children on-screen.

Aren't members of the player's party exempt from that? There are enough games with a child protagonist who does fight enemies and gets hurt...

[Ortaya Alevli]

David Gaider wrote...

If there was a child in the party they wouldn't be able to engage in combat. Restrictions in some markets would prevent that-- Germany, for instance, forbids any violence being done to children on-screen.

Does this mean Baldur's Gate 2 never got to be published in Germany?