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[FuturePasTimeCE]

Tazzmission wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...

Personally I doubt that Liara and Shepard will have kids, Liara is about 250 years away from her matron stage.

i dont know man because the romance you have with her in lotsb basicly points us into that direction of shepard marrying her and having blue children. shepards excuse about the other bootycalls hes done he can say something pimpish like im just getting it all out of my system for this day

 what?

[Tazzmission]

didymos1120 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Shandepared wrote...

Liara cannot conceive a child with Shepard. Nor can any asari conceive a child with any non-asari.

[Edit 6 October 2010: Deleted insult. -- Pacifien] did you even play mass effect 1? liara tells you when you chat with her that asari prefer cross species relations. as far as the asari bartender from mass effect 2 is concerned i can agree that her dad was a krogan seeing as there was a scenario where you can have a asari continue dating a krogan or not on illium.

OK, here's the deal: conception is really a technical term when used in its biological sense.  It means fertilization of an egg by a sperm.  That simply does not happen with asari.  They're parthenogenetic (says so right in the Codex).  In cultural terms: yes of course, Aethyta's dad was a krogan.  He raised her and did all that dad-type stuff.  But genetically?  She had only one parent: her mom. 

no because benezia never talked about liaras dad. maybe if you learn to talk to liara after the benezia fight you would SLOWLY see what im saying is accurate. do you want me to post the video?

Modifié par Pacifien, 07 octobre 2010 - 03:53 .

[Tazzmission]

didymos watch the video 220 in  you may learn something, next time dont skip the diolauge

Modifié par Tazzmission, 12 septembre 2010 - 10:05 .

[Aradace]

didymos1120 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Shandepared wrote...

Liara cannot conceive a child with Shepard. Nor can any asari conceive a child with any non-asari.

you are a moron. did you even play mass effect 1? liara tells you when you chat with her that asari prefer cross species relations. as far as the asari bartender from mass effect 2 is concerned i can agree that her dad was a krogan seeing as there was a scenario where you can have a asari continue dating a krogan or not on illium.

OK, here's the deal: conception is really a technical term when used in its biological sense.  It means fertilization of an egg by a sperm.  That simply does not happen with asari.  They're parthenogenetic (says so right in the Codex).  In cultural terms: yes of course, Aethyta's dad was a krogan.  He raised her and did all that dad-type stuff.  But genetically?  She had only one parent: her mom. 

I must've missed that entry. Which means now Ill have to go find it just so I know it's there now lol.  Anyway, now that my perceptions of the Asari have been COMPLETELY shattered, it adds a second race to my list of ME races that I dont like.  First on that list is Batarians.  Any race that claims "slavery" as a cultural "right" needs to be erradicated IMO and given the option to do so in ME3, I will.  And now, the Asari.  Because, as I mentioned before, the only image I have now is the Lizard example you gave to me lol...Which is just nasty and repulsive IMO.  Call me shallow and a biggot if you like but I have certain standards I need to adhere to lol.  Beyond those two, Im pretty cool with the other ME races. 

[Dave of Canada]

Tazzmission wrote...

no because benezia never talked about liaras dad. maybe if you learn to talk to liara after the benezia fight you would SLOWLY see what im saying is accurate. do you want me to post the video?

I'd like some of what you're smoking.

[Tazzmission]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

no because benezia never talked about liaras dad. maybe if you learn to talk to liara after the benezia fight you would SLOWLY see what im saying is accurate. do you want me to post the video?

I'd like some of what you're smoking.

watch the video i posted at the 220 mark. it explains the asari mating deal

[Aradace]

Tazzmission wrote...

didymos watch the video 220 in  you may learn something, next time dont skip the diolauge

So, is Didy and anyone else contesting it right? Wrong?  Because going off the video they're wrong.  Dammit Im so confused lol.  You know what? Screw this, until someone from BW can clear this little issue up Im going to have to go with the crowd on this one and say that Didy (and other who have made other similar claims) is wrong.  So hey, let's get a Dev in here and clear this matter up yea?  All we need is a "this person is right" or "that person is right" PoV.  And in the quotations, of course, (due to BW humor at times lol) stating which person is right and which is not right.  Seriously, we need to clear this up before Im forever repulsed by the Asari lol.

Modifié par Aradace, 12 septembre 2010 - 10:12 .

[Cheese Elemental]

I can only forsee Liara, Ash/Kaidan and Jacob having natural children with Shepard. I'd like a family ending for once. Not everything has to be GRIMDARK all the time.

Modifié par Cheese Elemental, 12 septembre 2010 - 10:08 .

[Tazzmission]

Aradace wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

didymos watch the video 220 in  you may learn something, next time dont skip the diolauge

So, is Didy and anyone else contesting it right? Wrong?  Because going off the video they're wrong.  Dammit Im so confused lol

this is why i wish certain newbs would actually listen to the diolauge instead of skipping it. now aradce notice now didy hasnt replied ever since i posted that video?

[Whailor]

Shandepared is just clueless or hasn't actually read any dialogue lines in the game, neither the codex. Or just a troll. Atheta or whatever is her name, barkeep on Illium is a child born from the "union" of an asari and krogan. Only thing is that no matter which species asari uses as a "father" the child will always be an asari. That's also explained as plainly as possible on Illium by the shopkeeper of Memories of Illium, when she speaks about her and her krogan lovers relationship. But Shandepared obviously missed that too, or is just a trolling fool.



There's also nothing "offensively bad" when asari couples with another asari, simply since they're the same species the offspring doesn't gain much and may, in some cases, be weakened by it. Genetic mutations are possible (like Ardat-Yakshi, though that's very rare), or the child may simply be weaker or with weaker health (though this is also just a chance, not a rule). When "melding" with other species the genetic material, so to say, is more varied from the differences and offspring will be stronger, or at least not gain any possible weaknesses. People don't pair with close relatives for same reasons (well, in addition to legal and social morale rules and it being just weird), because genetic material is very similar with same weaknesses and no additional strengths, thus those weaknesses will be intensified in offspring when they combine, so to say. In case of asari, they're obviously not all relatives but they're still the same species, sharing the same strengths and weaknesses and thus have no "new genetic material".



As for the child then there's no need for that in ME game. I mean sure, at the end of ME3 and trilogy the epilogue may say so, if you choose that option, that your Shepard and your LI went to whatever planet and produced a bunch of blue asari girls or little masked human/quarian children (heck, who knows, Tali's and Shepards kids actually may be quite OK - getting best genes from both plus having normal immune system thanks to human genes) or whatever. Or someone thickheaded hero wannabe may go and sacrifice themselves for the sake of all (too much bravado, too little brain), or anything really. But having the kids in the actual game as such - nah, not needed. What, you really want to play a bad father then who has kids and wife at home while you travel in heck knows what systems and at the very best sends a greeting vid-mail to the family on their birthdays and on some other holidays? "Sorry little kid, can't be at your birthday/first schoolday/new year/x-mas, daddy's fighting a bad Reaper over here" or such? Nah, mention them in epilogue if want, but keep them out of the game.

[Dave of Canada]

Tazzmission wrote...

this is why i wish certain newbs would actually listen to the diolauge instead of skipping it. now aradce notice now didy hasnt replied ever since i posted that video?

I do listen to the dialogue. Two-three times it's mentioned that Asari gain nothing from breeding with cross-species throughout Mass Effect 2 and that the mother's child is essentially the same as the mother genetically.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 12 septembre 2010 - 10:13 .

[Tazzmission]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

this is why i wish certain newbs would actually listen to the diolauge instead of skipping it. now aradce notice now didy hasnt replied ever since i posted that video?

I do listen to the dialogue. Two-three times it's mentioned that Asari gain nothing from breeding with cross-species throughout Mass Effect 2 and that the mother's child is essentially the same as the mother genetically.

did i mention you at all? further more i was addressing didy because he said on page one asari cant have children and its impossible.

[Aradace]

Tazzmission wrote...

Aradace wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

didymos watch the video 220 in  you may learn something, next time dont skip the diolauge

So, is Didy and anyone else contesting it right? Wrong?  Because going off the video they're wrong.  Dammit Im so confused lol

this is why i wish certain newbs would actually listen to the diolauge instead of skipping it. now aradce notice now didy hasnt replied ever since i posted that video?

Yea lol....I had an inkling that him and the other person were probably wrong but....I dont like to assume anything unless I know for certain.  I thought maybe i missed something in the Codex that they hadnt hence my confusion.  I usually pride myself on reading the Codex so if it had been something I missed I was going to be more upset with myself than someone else because I "missed" it.  Good to know I wasnt wrong

[Aradace]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

this is why i wish certain newbs would actually listen to the diolauge instead of skipping it. now aradce notice now didy hasnt replied ever since i posted that video?

I do listen to the dialogue. Two-three times it's mentioned that Asari gain nothing from breeding with cross-species throughout Mass Effect 2 and that the mother's child is essentially the same as the mother genetically.

Watch that video that was posted bro, and you'll learn something...I promse.

[Dave of Canada]

Tazzmission wrote...

did i mention you at all? further more i was addressing didy because he said on page one asari cant have children and its impossible.

Oh, I'm not allowed to post am I? I'll post where I damn well please.

An Asari breeding with a human yields an Asari child, the child gains nothing from the parentage of a human. It's not like the Asari is more human or has human traits now, the Asari's child is genetically 100% her "mother". Shepard can't have children with Liara because Liara would always be the biological parent, Shepard's involvement in the genetics of the child is 0.

[Tazzmission]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

did i mention you at all? further more i was addressing didy because he said on page one asari cant have children and its impossible.

Oh, I'm not allowed to post am I? I'll post where I damn well please.

An Asari breeding with a human yields an Asari child, the child gains nothing from the parentage of a human. It's not like the Asari is more human or has human traits now, the Asari's child is genetically 100% her "mother". Shepard can't have children with Liara because Liara would always be the biological parent, Shepard's involvement in the genetics of the child is 0.

so i take it you didnt watch the video huh ? so fricking what if anything the kid is gona have the mindset of both parents but biology wise itll be mainly asari.

Modifié par Tazzmission, 12 septembre 2010 - 10:21 .

[Gibb_Shepard]

From what i understand from actually READING the dialogue and codex, is that the daughter IS pure asari, but the child inherits certain genetic details from the father parent, and this is how asari evolve as a species. As stated may times in mass effect, if two asari meld the daughter has not gained anything beneficial in forwarding the asari race. If the asari meld with another species, the genetic traits are used to give the daughter beneficial traits from the asari.

[Dave of Canada]

Aradace wrote...

Watch that video that was posted bro, and you'll learn something...I promse.

All I've learned is an Asari believes that traits are passed on, a common belief that multiple Asari in ME2 doesn't share and calls bull****.

But I guess the dialogue in ME2 is just me grasping at straws, I mean... I didn't listen to the dialogue at all!

[Dave of Canada]

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

From what i understand from actually READING the dialogue and codex, is that the daughter IS pure asari, but the child inherits certain genetic details from the father parent, and this is how asari evolve as a species. As stated may times in mass effect, if two asari meld the daughter has not gained anything beneficial in forwarding the asari race. If the asari meld with another species, the genetic traits are used to give the daughter beneficial traits from the asari.

That's the common belief for a lot of Asari but a few Asari in ME2 say that it's bull****.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 12 septembre 2010 - 10:21 .

[Aradace]

Tazzmission wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

did i mention you at all? further more i was addressing didy because he said on page one asari cant have children and its impossible.

Oh, I'm not allowed to post am I? I'll post where I damn well please.

An Asari breeding with a human yields an Asari child, the child gains nothing from the parentage of a human. It's not like the Asari is more human or has human traits now, the Asari's child is genetically 100% her "mother". Shepard can't have children with Liara because Liara would always be the biological parent, Shepard's involvement in the genetics of the child is 0.

so i take it you didnt watch the video huh ?

That or he's still in denile....And Im NOT referring to the river in Egypt

[Zubie]

Genetically the the child is the same because no DNA is taken from the partner, which is why the child is always an asari. But non-asari mates are preferred because there is more diversity, therefore more desirable traits to pass on to the child.

[Tazzmission]

[Edit 6 October 2010: Deleted flame war comment. -- Pacifien]

Modifié par Pacifien, 07 octobre 2010 - 03:55 .

[NamiraWilhelm]

Bruddajakka wrote...

And there is such a thing as adoption.

If this were possible, i would want one of every species


Trouble is, this would really suck if your femshep. I suppose pregnancy might not be so awful on the body in the future but i really wouldnt want her skill etc to be hindered. It would only not suck if she did it with Liara so she could deal with it

[Aradace]

easygame88 wrote...

Genetically the the child is the same because no DNA is taken from the partner, which is why the child is always an asari. But non-asari mates are preferred because there is more diversity, therefore more desirable traits to pass on to the child.

And that in a nutshell is what I thought it was...Ok...It's official Dave, Didy, etc is wrong.  thanks guys for UNRUINING my view of the Asari...Was going to be a little peeved otherwise because I REALLY like Aria T'Loak lol.

[Tazzmission]

[Edit 6 Oct 2010: Deleted personal discussion. -- Pacifien]

Modifié par Pacifien, 07 octobre 2010 - 03:56 .