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[ObserverStatus]

Exile Isan wrote...

My Shepard already adopted a child: Grunt.

You should take your son to a natural history museum.  I think he'd like that.

[leggywillow]

Hopefully the flame war is done, but I would like to throw in my support for Dave and Didy.  I'm confused as to why there would be such an argument about this.

From the wiki:  "This reproductive process can lead to some confusion among non-asari, who might expect offspring with "mixed" genes. However, the offspring is always 100% asari, as it does not actually take DNA from the partner, simply use it as a "map" to randomize the genes of the offspring."

So the asari reproduce by parthenogenesis that's triggered by an external stimulus.  Melding with another sentient being can be the stimulus, or it could simply be some kind of targeted radiation.  So no, Shepard isn't a "father" using our biological definition.

However, from a cultural standpoint, the asari refer to this external stimulus as the "father".  So it's not a father exactly but probably just the closest term a human's translator can express.

[Exile Isan]

bobobo878 wrote...
You should take your son to a natural history museum.  I think he'd like that.

I'm sure he would. We might even see a Krogasaurus Rex.

[kraidy1117]

An Asari can enter the Matron stage when they think there ready /discussion.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

kraidy1117 wrote...

An Asari can enter the Matron stage when they think there ready /discussion.

Didn't Retribution deny this?

[kraidy1117]

Lizardviking wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

An Asari can enter the Matron stage when they think there ready /discussion.

Didn't Retribution deny this?

No. Retribution comfirms you need to be a matron to have a kid, the codex however says that an Asari can choose when to become a matron.

[didymos1120]

kraidy1117 wrote...

No. Retribution comfirms you need to be a matron to have a kid, the codex however says that an Asari can choose when to become a matron.

No.  All the Codex says is that an asari who melds frequently might enter the matron stage early, and that not every asari  exhibits the typical behavior patterns for a given stage.  I.e., you may be in the matron stage biologically, but that doesn't mean you'll inevitably choose to have children.  Likewise, not every matriarch bothers with politics and other community-oriented stuff.

Modifié par didymos1120, 12 septembre 2010 - 08:29 .

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

An Asari can enter the Matron stage when they think there ready /discussion.

Didn't Retribution deny this?

No. Retribution comfirms you need to be a matron to have a kid, the codex however says that an Asari can choose when to become a matron.

Ah, that was it.

But hopefully, Liara can become a matron before Shepard is completely old.

Modifié par Lizardviking, 12 septembre 2010 - 08:27 .

[Thisgunjams]

How Human do you think Shepard is at this point? He/She was "dead" for two years, and as i said before Reaper Tech was used to bring him back, as well as gene therapy. i wonder how this will play out in LI or ME3. any ideas?

[Elyvern]

Is it safe now?

I agree entirely with dave and didy btw, but love how the argument became a chest-pounding "I can summon chris priestly, the high mojo-jojo voodoo mastah to say you're wrong!" That's not a discussion, gentlemen, that's playground politics.



So now Liara can't have blue babies until we cryogenically freeze Shepard and thaw him/her out a few centuries later? Wonderful!

[langelog]

MassEffect762 wrote...

Sci-Fi Science: Anything is possible.

Exactly, science has come so far, so why couldn't Miranda recieve treatment to become fertile. For interspecies romance, I'm sure Bioware could come up with any sort of science BS filled with big words and other jargon so we can't comprehend it, but we buy it. A child would be great for sidequests in which Shpeard tries to find a way to make it work with his/her LI, as well as an epilogue that tells of the child and his/her progress.
 

Modifié par langelog, 12 septembre 2010 - 09:07 .

[General Douchington]

MassEffect762 wrote...

Sci-Fi Science: Anything is possible.

AKA: "It's fiction, I do what I want." *struts along with sunglasses*

[Mrcoffee55]

langelog wrote...

MassEffect762 wrote...

Sci-Fi Science: Anything is possible.

Exactly, science has come so far, so why couldn't Miranda recieve treatment to become fertile. For interspecies romance, I'm sure Bioware could come up with any sort of science BS filled with big words and other jargon so we can't comprehend it, but we buy it. A child would be great for sidequests in which Shpeard tries to find a way to make it work with his/her LI, as well as an epilogue that tells of the child and his/her progress.
 

IMO it could be a nice bridge into ME4 if we ever get to that point.

[kraidy1117]

Elyvern wrote...

Is it safe now?
I agree entirely with dave and didy btw, but love how the argument became a chest-pounding "I can summon chris priestly, the high mojo-jojo voodoo mastah to say you're wrong!" That's not a discussion, gentlemen, that's playground politics.

So now Liara can't have blue babies until we cryogenically freeze Shepard and thaw him/her out a few centuries later? Wonderful!

[didymos1120]

langelog wrote...


Exactly, science has come so far, so why couldn't Miranda recieve treatment to become fertile.

She doesn't even need to.  How was Miranda "conceived"?  Not the old-fashioned way, that's for sure.  She's a gender-swapped clone of daddy, with his Y-Chromosome re-engineered into a second X, plus a few enhancements.  If they can do that, then Miranda could easily have a child with someone else.  Get a DNA sample from the prospective dad (or hell, a second mommy would work too) and one from Ms. Lawson.  Splice 'em together, maybe add a few flourishes here and there, shove the new-made genome into a blank ovum, tell it start building a baby and bake for around 9 months at body temperature. 

[coffeemugjeff]

aryon69 wrote...

My understanding from ME1 is Liara is either a late teen or early twenties age wise compared to a human.  Unless I have missed something she could produce a child if the disire was there which I think it would be considering all that Shep and her have been through and if you have romanced her.  It seems Liara has had anything but a normal life so she could be the exception not the rule.  However one nice thing about RPGs is we can fill that void ourselfs if the writers do not so really no one is wrong.

I`m looking way too much into this, but I`d say Liara would be in her early middle`sh 20ies to human standars. Remeber on Illium near the weapons merchant , that new asari eclipse recruit saying I`m 60 and I`m happy  i`m finally out of my parents house.

I`m not sure if it`s fair to compare to with real life. But for argument sake  let`s say a a young girl is desperate to leave her house and joins the army which 18 years ol (by law in most countries) so for an asari it`s about 60 years,

60  years asari = 18 human years

Liara is 108 years old ( 108 / 60 = 1.8 X 18 = 32 years old)  but Asari can live 1000 years that would mean a old Asari would be to simplify around 320  years old in human years.

but they again unless their growth is slower than a humans, and Asari and a human would have access to the same info so and 18 year old Asari would know as much as a 18 year old human.

better just use the age category and make a average.

Modifié par coffeemugjeff, 12 septembre 2010 - 10:19 .

[DigitalMaster37]

The OP is right. Liara and the ME1 LIs are capable of having babies. As it stands in the game there is no conclusive evidence that any ME2 LIs are capable of doing so, let alone wanting to.

[didymos1120]

Deltaboy37-1 wrote...

The OP is right. Liara and the ME1 LIs are capable of having babies. As it stands in the game there is no conclusive evidence that any ME2 LIs are capable of doing so, let alone wanting to.

Well, other than Miranda's Broker dossier, which is about as clear as it can be about her wanting a child.

[atheelogos]

Z-Dragon wrote...

I'm starting to doubt that any of the relationships from ME2 will end with Shepard  and the love interest having a child...

Tali: Cross Species Gap
Garrus: Same as Tali
Thane: Genetic material ingestion can cause illness, guessing pregnancy chance is on the low side...
Miranda: Unable to conceive to gene manipulation
Jacob: Possibly the only good chance in the group
Jack: Not 100% but possibilty limited due to biotic's exposure

It seems like Liara and Ashley/Kaiden may be the only 2 able to cocieve a child with Shepard, Liara more-so cause of what Shepard said to her after the Shadow Broker mission.

Yeah I was just thinking the same thing the other day.
And technically a kid with Liara wouldn't be Shepards biological child, so that's one more down. Oh and you forgot to mention Kelly.

[The Good Shephard]

Enjoy your alien/human hybrid babies.

[yummysoap]

Well, now I've seen everything.

EDIT: On a more relevant note, I don't know why children are coming into this. More pressing matters are at hand, like galactic extinction.

Modifié par yummysoap, 13 septembre 2010 - 02:10 .

[Fhaileas]

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

[ObserverStatus]

@good shepard rofl, where do you find this stuff?

[dreman9999]

Skyblade012 wrote...

It isn't the Justicar code that forbids it, it is against Samara's own desire.

She is basically afraid of being hurt again. Of bringing another Ardat-Yakshi daughter into the world.

That's not it at all. Only pure bloods Asari give birth to Ardat-Yakshis. She just feels guilty and she does not want to find happiness with a lover while her daughters can't.