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[Katya Nadanova]

jbblue05 wrote...
Why would the rachni even fight them right now they still have to rebuild their infrastructure and buid up their numbers and Wrex is trying to unite the Krogan.  The Rachni Queen isn't going to tell you we want revenge against the Krogans when she wants you to free her.  The queen is full of crap if she can remember Reaper Indoctrination she can remember a Krogan boot on the head of a rachni queen followed up by a shotgun at point blank range.
Wrex didn't stop Shepard because he still doesn't care about reuniting the Krogan at this point and Virmire is his boiling point.

Krogans and Rachni have too much bad blood and I would expect their to be some tension between both races

Wouldn't it make more sense for the rachni to attack the true reason(the reapers) for the war, instead of fighting the rest of the galaxy?  The asari(on Illium) tells Shepard that the Queen believes Shepard is fighting the enemy who "soured the song of" the rachni.  Why would the rachni attack the krogan or the rest of the galaxy?  The rachni didn't choose to start the war in the first place, it was the indoctrination from the reapers.  How does whether or not Wrex wants to reunite the krogan or not change his views on the rachni?

[PWENER]

JamieCOTC wrote...

PWENER wrote...

JamieCOTC wrote...

PWENER wrote...

JamieCOTC wrote...

Keep the base, blow up the base. Doesn't matter. Shep has Reaper data from Collector base at the end of the game. All that matters.

We've covered this already. It's one thing to know where to shoot, it's another to have the means to shoot.

And ME3 will be a completely new game just like ME2 as to bring in new players. Cerberus will most likely be put on back burner if that. 

I don't get your answear. What does that have to do with cannonity?

Take a good long look at what REALLY changed in ME2.  Not much.  Paragon Sheps get some extra dialog from people they saved, but that's about it.  Kill the Council, save the Council, it's the same game.  Same will be for the base.  Not really going to matter. 

Anyway, as far as having the means to shoot, Shep has had it all along. 

And it is......? What?

[Xilizhra]

But if you choose the one that's right for the each situation, you find yourself in the shoes of an actual human being with emotions and not some sociopath or self rightious goof

Oh, I do. It's always Paragon.

[Dave of Canada]

Tom and Anthony go to the local gamestop, they've looked over the game selection and happen to see the Mass Effect series. Both of them decide that it looks like a good game, they've never played it before nor have they watched a video of it but they've heard good things.

Tom decides that he wants to be a Paragon due to blue being his prefered color, Anthony picks Renegade due to red being his prefered color and they meet each afternoon to discuss their experiences playing Mass Effect on the opposite side of the spectrum. Tom and Anthony both play Male Shepard Soldiers with the custom face.

Tom explains to Anthony the wonderous adventures he's had through Noveria with his lover Ashley and friend Garrus, Tom eventually explains that he was worried when the big decision came up, explained to Anthony that he didn't trust the Rachni Queen and he's fearful that she just lied to him to escape. Anthony explains that he burned her after hearing of all the trouble they caused in the galaxy years before. Both Tom and Anthony enjoy the game, Tom is worried about the Rachni Queen.

*WEEKS LATER*

Tom runs up to Anthony and tells him that the Rachni Queen talked to him in Mass Effect 2, Anthony raises an eyebrow and is curious because he didn't recieve a mention of anything for killing her. Tom explains how the Rachni Queen is going to help him against the Reapers! Tom is excited that his choice imported and being worried for letting the Rachni Queen go was for nothing. Tom is giddy and awaits Mass Effect 3 to see the Rachni assist him, Anthony is disappointed that killing her wasn't mentioned at all. Anthony shrugs.

*WEEKS BEFORE*

Anthony approaches Tom and asks him what he did to Shiala on Feros, Tom explains in detail that he decided to let her go due to feeling like he could trust her. Anthony explained that he didn't trust Shiala due to her ties with Saren, he killed her and said it's better for the colony.

*WEEKS LATER*

Tom calls Anthony and mocks him, Anthony is wondering what is going on. Tom explains in great detail how Shiala approached him and told him everything about how she was helping the colonists, Anthony was shocked that Saren's follower would do something like that. Tom then explained once more that Shiala flirted with Shepard. Anthony put down the phone and let out a few swear words as he looks upon the nameless colonist that seeks his attention.

*WEEKS BEFORE*

After having finally beating the game, Anthony and Tom talk over how amazing the ending was and how they can't wait to play the sequel. Tom mentions that he felt like a hero and champion of all humanity as the Council was rescued and that he represents everything that is good with humanity. Anthony was confused that his decision to focus on sovereign instead yielded in a different outcome, he explained how humanity took over and that he's surprised the difficulty for Sovereign remained the exact same.

*WEEKS LATER*

Anthony furiously stomps his feet into Tom's room, Tom looks back at Anthony and asks him what's up. Anthony explains he saved the entire universe and nobody believes him, instead the Council ignores him anyways and now he's hated by almost every alien he encounters in the game. Tom explains that he shares the pain, Anthony looks shocked and asks how he could possibly know what he went through. Tom explains that the Council made him a spectre again but didn't believe him, at that very moment Tom ruins to the Turian Shopkeeper and the Turian Shopkeeper yells out how amazing Shepard is.

Anathony leaves enraged.

*SUICIDE MISSION*

While eating over lunch, Tom explains that he blew up the Collector Base and how everybody on his crew approved of it and adored him for doing it. Anthony, weary after all his fits of rage, slowly tilted his head up and said that his companions told him to keep the base due to it's potential. Tom smiles and tells Anthony that he knew that Renegades would get approval eventually, Anthony meets his gaze and then says those same companions told him to eat **** and die after they talked on the Normandy. Tom was left speechless as Anthony walked away.

*DAYS LATER*

Tom finds Anthony weeping on his bed, he approachs Anthony and rubs Anthony's back. Anthony looks up and asks how come everything cool happened to him (Tom), Tom said that Anthony need not worry and he could be as cool if he just made a Paragon instead. Anthony sits up, stares at Tom and says that why is there even an option for Renegade if it removes content, Tom tells him it's because Renegades get the job done. Tom and Anthony argue about both their respective morality bars and eventually Anthony kicks Tom out of the house.

They never spoke with each other again.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 13 septembre 2010 - 02:10 .

[upsettingshorts]

Really? Even when Jack and Miranda are having that pointless catfight? I always go Renegade there.

(Tali and Legion get Paragon)

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 04 février 2011 - 05:50 .

[scotchtape622]

I hope you guys realize that there is no "Paragon" Shepard and "Renegade" Shepard. If you pay attention, both will often contradict themselves. The whole point is that you can mix it up, and play as you would in real life.

[PWENER]

Xilizhra wrote...

But if you choose the one that's right for the each situation, you find yourself in the shoes of an actual human being with emotions and not some sociopath or self rightious goof

Oh, I do. It's always Paragon.

[upsettingshorts]

Dave of Canada wrote...
They never spoke with each other again.

/offers Dave of Canada a well-deserved fist bump

[Xilizhra]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Really? Even when Jack and Miranda are having that pointless catfight? I always go Renegade there.

(Jack and Legion get Paragon)

I never have the Intimidate option, but it doesn't matter; Charm says prety much the same thing, just less heatedly.

Also, bravo on your one-act play, Dave of Canada.

[PWENER]

scotchtape622 wrote...

I hope you guys realize that there is no "Paragon" Shepard and "Renegade" Shepard. If you pay attention, both will often contradict themselves. The whole point is that you can mix it up, and play as you would in real life.

Finally someone understands.

[upsettingshorts]

Well, unless you cheat you don't consistently have access to both Charm and Intimidate. So you either have to metagame your butt off to base the entire order you play the game on being able to "mix it up" or cheat.

Thankfully, I cheat.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 13 septembre 2010 - 02:11 .

[PWENER]

Xilizhra wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Really? Even when Jack and Miranda are having that pointless catfight? I always go Renegade there.

(Jack and Legion get Paragon)

I never have the Intimidate option, but it doesn't matter; Charm says prety much the same thing, just less heatedly.

Also, bravo on your one-act play, Dave of Canada.

When I saw the renegade option for that my eyeballs fell off my sockets. Shep totally over reacted. If I was Legion I would have told Shepard to go **** himself. 

[PWENER]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Well, unless you cheat you don't consistently have access to both Charm and Intimidate. So you either have to metagame your butt off to base the entire order you play the game on being able to "mix it up" or cheat.

Thankfully, I cheat.

Use the paragon/renegade glitch. There, problem solved.

[upsettingshorts]

I never actually picked Renegade for Legion/Tali (put Jack in my post by mistake) - mind summarizing?

PWENER wrote...

Use the paragon/renegade glitch. There, problem solved.

Cheating is easier than exploiting.  I just use the save editor to give myself 1000/1000 points as soon as I wake up in the Cerberus base.  Takes a few seconds.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 13 septembre 2010 - 02:13 .

[Dave of Canada]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

I never actually picked Renegade for Legion/Tali (put Jack in my post by mistake) - mind summarizing?

FemShep version here.

[scotchtape622]

EDIT: Beat to the punch 

Modifié par scotchtape622, 13 septembre 2010 - 02:14 .

[upsettingshorts]

Wow, yeah. After that speech if I'm Legion I'm bailing at the next stop. If I'm Tali I'm thinking about it.

[Slayer299]

stewie1974 wrote...

To be 100 percent honest.

I doubt the decisions made in ME1 and ME2 will seriously affect ME3, as ME3 has to stand by itself as a video game. That means you have to be able to "win" ME3 with out having played "ME1&2".

that probablly means another conversation in a shuttle asking what you did if you don't have a save game.

Anyway in either case. everyone always does at least 3 playthroughs right?

Actually, the shuttle conversation happens even with a saved game, because with every one of my imports I've had the same conversation with Jacob and Miranda.

[PWENER]

Slayer299 wrote...

stewie1974 wrote...

To be 100 percent honest.

I doubt the decisions made in ME1 and ME2 will seriously affect ME3, as ME3 has to stand by itself as a video game. That means you have to be able to "win" ME3 with out having played "ME1&2".

that probablly means another conversation in a shuttle asking what you did if you don't have a save game.

Anyway in either case. everyone always does at least 3 playthroughs right?

Actually, the shuttle conversation happens even with a saved game, because with every one of my imports I've had the same conversation with Jacob and Miranda.

It's there because the human councilor representative choice isn't saved for import in ME1.

[Xilizhra]

Shandepared wrote...

Hale sucks. The male version of the renegade speech to Tali/Legion is great. Humbles them.

That droning dolt couldn't talk his way out of a paper bag. Hale is far better.

[upsettingshorts]

Let's not make it one of those threads.

[PWENER]

Shandepared wrote...

Hale sucks. The male version of the renegade speech to Tali/Legion is great. Humbles them.

Are you ****ting me!? He comes out like a total nut case. Yelling and insulting unnecesarily.

[PWENER]

Xilizhra wrote...

Shandepared wrote...

Hale sucks. The male version of the renegade speech to Tali/Legion is great. Humbles them.

That droning dolt couldn't talk his way out of a paper bag. Hale is far better.

Hey! I don't want my thread (best thread of the day) polluted like this, take it somewhere else.