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Why I Think Thane's Romance is the Deepest in the Series


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First of all, let me be clear that I intend no trouble with this. As much as I like the romances in Mass Effect (1 and 2), there is a single romance that I feel is thoroughly unappreciated by many, simply because we are immediately blinded by one unique and outstanding feature associated with the character involved in this romance -- Thane Krios.

Let's forget Thane's death for a moment, and go deep into the roots of his life and future relationship with Female Shepard, and why I think it is an exceptionally well-written romance subplot that goes beyond mere love and/or friendship.


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It amazes me how difficult it has been for Thane to even want to live anymore. The hanar chose to train him as an assassin when he was six years old, when his life hadn't even started yet. He went with the training for years, until turned 12 and made his first kill. Life goes on, working as an assassin, under the supervision of the hanar, and everything seems as good as it can be, regardless of all the difficulties he must have gone through at this stage of his life.

Thane then meets Irikah during an assassination mission years later, a complete stranger who risks her life to save another complete stranger. The two fall in love, and they give birth to Kolyat. Thane continues his work as an assassin as usual, leaving both Irikah and her child to take care of themselves. He kills this one batarian, and in response, the batarians, not having enough gut to go face Thane himself, go after the weak Irikah and kill her in revenge for their leader whom Thane had killed.

I can only imagine what happened at this point. Irikah, lying on the floor, covered in blood, taking her last breathe, destroyed, and betrayed by her husband's absence. And then there is Kolyat, who I imagine was only getting started to get used to it all, only to lose his mother in a horrible, horrible way. Thane mourns Irikah, leaves Kolyat with his aunts and uncles, and goes on to avenge Irikah's death.

Somehow Kolyat managed to get away from his uncles. Thane returns after finishing the job, and finds out Kolyat had gone. How insanely difficult must this have been for him? He had just lost his first love, admittedly feeling that it's all because of him, and now his son, the only thing left of Irikah, is nowhere to be found. Anyone not strong enough would have probably committed suicide by this point, but Thane stood still, strong, and full of faith, yet somehow he believed he was dead, losing all that God had given him -- a wife that actually cared, and a son.

Knowing that he faces an impending death due to a common condition between his species, a death that comes closer with each and every passing second, and feeling even more destroyed and guilty day by day, he was strong enough to hold it together for ten years, after which he managed to finally reunite with Kolyat, with the help of who he believed was an angel from above.

Even at this point, after finally reuniting with Kolyat, and after finally finding a chance to atone and make up for his past guilt, he still feels down, full of treason, and full of sadness and sorrow because of what happened over ten years ago. With his death less than a year away but having reunited and spoken to Kolyat, Thane feels he is at peace, ready and accepting his inevitable fate, which is now closer than ever.

...only for that angel to awake him, to re-open his eyes, to refresh him, to show him what hope and faith can do, even when reality seems to be taking over. Who would've thought? Ten years of sadness, of psychological destruction, of death, of lifelessness, of thinking and dwelling, would end up like this? Who would've thought that Irikah was not, in fact, the only person with a true heart -- that there was always someone, perhaps sent by the goddess, to watch over him, to show him that life and joy are still, and always will be, welcoming, no matter how much guilt one may have been involved in?

It wasn't until Shepard emerged and showed him herself, like a phoenix rising from the ashes and turning back into its spectacular brilliance and beauty. It wasn't until that moment that what Thane had always thought and believed in, became mere thoughts. He found someone worthwhile, someone that cared for his well-being, someone that encouraged him and reminded him to participate joyfully in the sorrows of the world, since one cannot cure the world of sorrows, but they can always choose to live in joy.

This is especially interesting if we look at it from Thane's perspective. How is it that, after all the misery, after all these years of sadness, you meet an angel that smiles upon you with joy and whispers right to your heart that everything is going to be fine? How are you to believe this "angel" is even real? Giving you a chance to atone, helping you reunite with the only one you care for in the universe, and then telling you that she cares for you? Stranger still, this happens mere months prior to the inevitable, which you had always accepted with open arms -- until now?

It seems rather clear that Thane just needed someone to awake -- or rather, reawake -- him. Having gone through all this misery, and, above all, staying strong and hanging in there for years, while also accepting his fate, Thane has simply earned it. He has every reason to believe this angel is "Siha", the warrior-angel, the tenacious protector, the divine watcher, simply because she believed, and showed him that nothing is worth the trouble.

Yet even then, after the sudden change of heart, after the awakening, Thane is ashamed of himself, of his fate, but still wonders deep inside: How can I love you so much with only a few months left of life, my angel? How can you be so hopeful and loving even though you know I have nothing to live for anymore? Why do I feel I am able to stand on my feet again, simply because you told me to, after ten years of apparent darkness? And more importantly, why do I feel affection and love towards you, when I have never, ever felt emotionally attached to any non-drell species before?

Even from Shepard's own perspective, there is meaning, and one word sums it up perfectly -- faith.

Now come to think of it; isn't it amazing how Thane suddenly finds himself back to "the memories"? Solely because someone, someone in this dark galaxy, believed in him? Someone that refused to see him suffer, and gave him hope, when everything in his life seems lost?

What's beautiful is how Thane even admits as much on more than one occasion. With Thane, Shepard does, in fact, have a reason to pursue a relationship, because it is not solely for her own gain, but rather to make a man who has suffered what would have destroyed most realize that there is more to life, and that the world does not end so easily, even so she knows that her relationship with him may not continue once Kepral's Syndrome has reached its critical point, but she still has the decency to show him mercy and happiness before the world takes him away.

She wanted to prove him wrong when he said that there would be no one to mourn him when he dies. She wanted to allow him to make a difference, to the make the universe brighter, to make him realize that she's watching over him and is always there by his side, when he has no one else to go spend his final months with.

Modifié par FieryPhoenix7, 22 septembre 2010 - 07:10 .


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DISCLAIMER:



Please note that this is only an opinion. Also note how I said "deepest romance", as opposed to "best romance", because the two are completely different. I am by no means attacking other characters or romances in any way or shape or form.

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Exquisite account, my fellow

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That's a quite well made and well thought out reason. But I still completely disagree with you.

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Thank you both for your replies. Glad to see you liked the read, even if you disagree.

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FieryPhoenix7 wrote...
there is a single romance that I feel is thoroughly unappreciated by many.


Thane is pretty popular, actually.

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Thane is my favorite female romance, but I still feel like the male romances are done way better.

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MarginalBeast wrote...

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...
there is a single romance that I feel is thoroughly unappreciated by many.


Thane is pretty popular, actually.

I know, but compared to others, not really.

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Thane's romance has one of the most moving scenes. He admits that he's afraid and while Shepard's "be alive with me tonight" is a bit chessy, it's very fitting for a man who seeks nothing more than to die serving a greater good.

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I really love your writeup. I think there's something else in Thane as well: a constant tension between two conflicting aspects of his personality. He characterizes it as being a mind/body split, but it almost goes beyond that into the very nature of his relationship to the hanar. He might not have had a choice when his parents handed him over for training, but he embraces it to a large extent as an honor, even when they have him doing things he finds deeply repugnant. He has to live fractured, since he's honoring the hanar's preservation of his species, but he's not a killer by nature and never grew comfortable with it, even after childhood conditioning. The only real way to survive internal tension and conflict like that is to shut yourself off and desensitize yourself to the universe.



My first imported Shepard was a softened renegade who went paragon after her "second chance," and Thane's duality and life story had a huge resonance with her (Colonist/Ruthless). Thane saved her just as much as she saved him, and he did something else for her that no other ME character has done: treated her as an equal. In seeing his own worth through her eyes, he gave her something back-- honest affection based on his own respect and his personal assessment of her character.

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Well, aside from the fact that I could probably edit that post to about half its size and make the same point, I think that judging a person's worth as a deep romance option by the number of bad things that have happened to them is an injustice to the others. Those are circumstances that are out of our hands - some people are more fortunate than others, but that doesn't make them any less worthy or complex as characters.



I get what you're saying, because it does take an extraordinary person to go through what Thane has and come out relatively in one piece, but like I said, it's not fair to the others. That implies that Jacob, Kaidan and Garrus aren't as deep in the romantic aspect because they didn't lose their wife and alienate their son, and have to overcome that to start a new relationship. A person shouldn't HAVE to go through that, especially not to qualify for the deepest romance.



Thane's romance has it's own merits and brings something unique to the table, as do the others. I'm a Garrus fan myself and his romance was everything I hoped and more, because it was done very well. I feel for Garrus, just as I feel for Thane. They're both very different characters, and so their romances are different, and not everyone is going to be attracted to the same people. And I'm not saying that I wouldn't be attracted to Thane's case either, but I don't feel the comparison is really fair.

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Faerlyte wrote...
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May I ask what "comparison" you speak of?

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FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

Faerlyte wrote...
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May I ask what "comparison" you speak of?


A comparison is implied when you set it against the rest of the "romance options in the series."

The difference between saying "Why I think Thane's is a Deep Romance"

vs.

"Why I think Thane is the Deepest Romance Option in the Series."

Lends it a fundamentally different purpose.  It was a nice write-up of your opinion of Thane, though, regardless.

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Eradyn wrote...

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

Faerlyte wrote...
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May I ask what "comparison" you speak of?


A comparison is implied when you set it against the rest of the "romance options in the series."

The difference between saying "Why I think Thane's is a Deep Romance"

vs.

"Why I think Thane is the Deepest Romance Option in the Series."

Lends it a fundamentally different purpose.  It was a nice write-up of your opinion of Thane, though, regardless.

Amazingly enough, I never realized the title actually said that. I meant to say the former.

Thank you very much for the heads up. Somehow I never caught it. It's true that I didn't mean Thane himself, but his romance.

Title edited. Thanks again. :)

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Well, "Why I Think Thane is the Deepest Romance Option in the Series" does imply a comparison between his an the other character romances in the game. Implying that Thane's romance is the deepest is, in itself, a comparison to the other romances in the game.

EDIT: Well shucks, Eradyn beat me to it. :P And I apologize for my opening statement...a writer's peeve that I have, nothing personal.

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Faerlyte wrote...

Well, "Why I Think Thane is the Deepest Romance Option in the Series" does imply a comparison between his an the other character romances in the game. Implying that Thane's romance is the deepest is, in itself, a comparison to the other romances in the game.

EDIT: Well shucks, Eradyn beat me to it. :P

Yeah, edited.

Sorry, totally slipped through the cracks. ><"

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I'm pretty sure Thane is the second most popular femshep romance behind Kadian and pretty much tied with garrus

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No worries, ^_^.

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But i agree,

Best Femshep romance and best bromance for man shep, ENjoyed thane quite a bit

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Shadow_broker wrote...

I'm pretty sure Thane is the second most popular femshep romance behind Kadian and pretty much tied with garrus

Could be.

To be honest, I'd love to see romance statistics detailing all this, similar to the gameplay data they revealed last week.

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Lol the title was edited but it's still a comparison.

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FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

Shadow_broker wrote...

I'm pretty sure Thane is the second most popular femshep romance behind Kadian and pretty much tied with garrus

Could be.

To be honest, I'd love to see romance statistics detailing all this, similar to the gameplay data they revealed last week.


Totally but If i had to guess romances popuarity of ME2 though 

1.Tali (likley takes 70% margin of Male shep romance at the least) 
2.Garrus 
3.Thane
4. Miranda
5.Stayed loyal to ME1 intrest
6. Jack
7.Jacob
8.Hitted on mordinImage IPB

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Collider wrote...

Lol the title was edited but it's still a comparison.

If I ever meant for this to be a comparison thread, I would have stated as much and never bothered adding the big fat disclaimer in post #2.

And let's not forget, comparison threads almost never end well. This is most definitely not for comparison purposes. You are welcome to start a comparison discussion in the group(s) or some other thread, but not here.

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Garrus and thane are probably the best male LIs in my opinion.



And for Tali, Miranda, and Liara are probably my favorite female LIs.