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Why I Think Thane's Romance is the Deepest in the Series


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FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

Collider wrote...

Lol the title was edited but it's still a comparison.

If I ever meant for this to be a comparison thread, I would have stated as much and never bothered adding the big fat disclaimer in post #2.

And let's not forget, comparison threads almost never end well. This is most definitely not for comparison purposes. You are welcome to start a comparison discussion in the group(s) or some other thread, but not here.



I am totally with you.

FieryPhoenix is just trying to do something for that people that cares Thane as a member of the group. Is the only character that is dying slowly, I love other characters like Garrus, Legion, etc.
But Thane is the only one that I think that have a chance of really die in ME3.

All Thane's ·"fans" are worried about this fact, incluiding me of course.

So this post is not for a competition of how is the best ,or something like that, all characters are special, and all of them deserve to be in ME3, but the mortaly of Thane, is another thing, so please don't make of this a discution or a war of how is the better romance or the best character or the best shotting or the best whatever.

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That's a well thought out OP. I do agree that Thane's is one of the deeper romances in the series. I personally don't think it's the deepest, as I'm biased towards Liara's, but that's just my opinion. But you definitely made your case for Thane.

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Well said, Phoenix. I agree that in terms of depth and consistency, Thane is the most satisfying romance in ME2. Garrus' is nice - but it is cut very short. Jacob's...err, let's just leave it at that.

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I definitely agree. I find it less sad than others seem to, though; if he really does die (that's not what we're discussing), you'll have brightened the last year of the life of a man who was basically going to kill himself before he met you. It's incredible storytelling on the part of BW- I, as the player, could feel its emotional impact. There is an underlying sadness to it (he and Shep both know he has Kepral's, no one's in denial about that), but I still picture the two enjoying what time they have.
I even admire the relationship if you "reject" him. He doesn't throw a damn fit about it like certain characters I won't mention.
So whether he dies or BW swoops in with some sort of deus ex machina device to save him, I'll be satisfied because he is/was a hell of an awesome character. Drell in general are just beyond cool.

Modifié par Kitteh303, 13 septembre 2010 - 12:57 .


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I agree with you, FieryPhoenix7 and I had every intention of romancing Thane with my femShep who romanced Kaidan.

But what Thane made my Shepard realize, as she thought about life after Thane died, is that is exactly how Kaidan must have felt when Shepard died. So in a strange way, Thane strengthened the relationship between she and Kaidan. Well, at least for Shepard. we'll see what really happens with Kaidan. <3

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Isaantia wrote...

I agree with you, FieryPhoenix7 and I had every intention of romancing Thane with my femShep who romanced Kaidan.

But what Thane made my Shepard realize, as she thought about life after Thane died, is that is exactly how Kaidan must have felt when Shepard died. So in a strange way, Thane strengthened the relationship between she and Kaidan. Well, at least for Shepard. we'll see what really happens with Kaidan. <3


I'd never thought of it that way... that's... that makes a lot of sense. I re watched the Shenko love scene today, realizing that Kaidan comes in a pretty close second for me.

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FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

Even from Shepard's own perspective, there is meaning, and one word sums it up perfectly -- faith.


The LotSB content has shaken this for some people in regard to Thane's fate in the series, while reinforcing it for others.  I hadn't even considered faith, stupidly enough, until I saw that line.  Thank you, Fiery, for the reminder.

I have faith that he'll still be around in the next game, and maybe even live.

A well written manifesto on the Thane romance.

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While I dont really feel anything for the Thane romance, he's light years ahead of anything else Femshep has as far as ME2 romances go, until the VS DLC gets out he probably has as much dev time as Kai has.



Honestly my sheps arent interested in anyone from 2. Unless I can get a maleshep to 2 and maybe go with Miranda then that achivo will be undone.

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cindalkitty wrote...

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

Even from Shepard's own perspective, there is meaning, and one word sums it up perfectly -- faith.


The LotSB content has shaken this for some people in regard to Thane's fate in the series, while reinforcing it for others.  I hadn't even considered faith, stupidly enough, until I saw that line.  Thank you, Fiery, for the reminder.

I have faith that he'll still be around in the next game, and maybe even live.

A well written manifesto on the Thane romance.


They left a way out. That's sufficient evidence for me to have faith. Maybe he refused a transplant before because he thought the evils he'd done should somehow disqualify him, but in light of helping defeat the collectors and being a part of something that saved the entire galaxy, one would think he may change his mind and think maybe he's worth it.

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Kitteh303 wrote...

cindalkitty wrote...

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

Even from Shepard's own perspective, there is meaning, and one word sums it up perfectly -- faith.


The LotSB content has shaken this for some people in regard to Thane's fate in the series, while reinforcing it for others.  I hadn't even considered faith, stupidly enough, until I saw that line.  Thank you, Fiery, for the reminder.

I have faith that he'll still be around in the next game, and maybe even live.

A well written manifesto on the Thane romance.


They left a way out. That's sufficient evidence for me to have faith. Maybe he refused a transplant before because he thought the evils he'd done should somehow disqualify him, but in light of helping defeat the collectors and being a part of something that saved the entire galaxy, one would think he may change his mind and think maybe he's worth it.


I agree with this 100% :D

Regardless of romantic involvement, he will tell Shepard that Shepard woke him up.  He doesn't think removing evil is the same as adding good, but I think Shepard could convince him to forgive himself for what he's done and accept help... considering everything else Shepard seems to be able to convince people do to with Charm and Intimidate conversation options.

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cindalkitty wrote...

Kitteh303 wrote...

cindalkitty wrote...

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

Even from Shepard's own perspective, there is meaning, and one word sums it up perfectly -- faith.


The LotSB content has shaken this for some people in regard to Thane's fate in the series, while reinforcing it for others.  I hadn't even considered faith, stupidly enough, until I saw that line.  Thank you, Fiery, for the reminder.

I have faith that he'll still be around in the next game, and maybe even live.

A well written manifesto on the Thane romance.


They left a way out. That's sufficient evidence for me to have faith. Maybe he refused a transplant before because he thought the evils he'd done should somehow disqualify him, but in light of helping defeat the collectors and being a part of something that saved the entire galaxy, one would think he may change his mind and think maybe he's worth it.


I agree with this 100% :D

Regardless of romantic involvement, he will tell Shepard that Shepard woke him up.  He doesn't think removing evil is the same as adding good, but I think Shepard could convince him to forgive himself for what he's done and accept help... considering everything else Shepard seems to be able to convince people do to with Charm and Intimidate conversation options.


I hope the lungs don't have to come from Feron though. He's too cute and orange to kill. :lol:

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Glad to see more positive replies! :wizard:

This writeup is basically my own personal feeling toward the Thane romance put into words, similar to the Ashley one I did back on the old forums. I'm actually very curious to see how the relationship with Thane is intended to continue. I guess we won't know that until ME3, though.

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I wouldn't say it's the deepest, that title belongs to Liara, however it was very well written, expect for a few parts that felt awkward.

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kraidy1117 wrote...

I wouldn't say it's the deepest, that title belongs to Liara, however it was very well written, expect for a few parts that felt awkward.


That's your opinion that title belongs to Liara. Not everybody feels that way.

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I felt that Liara's romance in ME1 started too soon.

That said, it would seem that they really did a great job on Liara's romance in Lair of the Shadowbroker DLC.

Thane's romance. It's the easily the most well rounded romance in my opinion. However it didn't have much emotion or conflict to it until the romance scene. I did not particularly feel that Thane's romance was as a whole "deep," but it's a great romance, one of the best in the entire series in my opinion.

Modifié par Collider, 13 septembre 2010 - 05:31 .


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JECWSU wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

I wouldn't say it's the deepest, that title belongs to Liara, however it was very well written, expect for a few parts that felt awkward.


That's your opinion that title belongs to Liara. Not everybody feels that way.

And I am not telling anyone to think that. I am replying to the OP who knows I am a die hard Liara fan. I like Thanes romance, there is just some awakard moments. It's still by far the best romance in ME2.

Modifié par kraidy1117, 13 septembre 2010 - 10:33 .


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i don't think reasoning really works with any romance

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I really enjoyed Thanes romance he's sort of similar to the kind of guys i like. He's interesting and deep and quite sensitive to feelings. The reason i never romance Jacob is because he;s the oppersite (and talks like a 70's porn star) likewise on the female character front i like characters like Liara and Kelly they are both intelligent and sensitive and i enjoy their dialogue because they reflect real traits i find attractive. I guess the romance you enjoy reflects an ideal about the person you want to be with.

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kraidy1117 wrote...

JECWSU wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

I wouldn't say it's the deepest, that title belongs to Liara, however it was very well written, expect for a few parts that felt awkward.


That's your opinion that title belongs to Liara. Not everybody feels that way.

And I am not telling anyone to think that. I am replying to the OP who knows I am a die hard Liara fan. I like Thanes romance, there is just some awakard moments. It's still by far the best romance in ME2.


Even though the title was changed, the current title and the premise of this thread invites comparisons to other love interests.  It's inevitable that people are going to share their opinions and disagree, or state whom they think is the "deepest" romance.  There was nothing wrong with your post, Kraidy.

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i'm still embarassed by this thread..

i hope you're happy Fiery

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Fiery you have given a very polite and eloquant description of why you think it's the deepest romance.



However, I disagree with you stating that being deep solely comes through faith and hardship. I've known too many people in life whose faith was 3 miles wide but an inch thick and some of the deepest inviduals I have ever met have lived comfortable lives.

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Buggirl70 wrote...

Fiery you have given a very polite and eloquant description of why you think it's the deepest romance.

However, I disagree with you stating that being deep solely comes through faith and hardship. I've known too many people in life whose faith was 3 miles wide but an inch thick and some of the deepest inviduals I have ever met have lived comfortable lives.

Yeah, I realize that. I was actually only talking about Thane and how his backstory ties with the romance. Of course, this isn't the case if you view what I said as a generalization, which it isn't. :)

Also, TeenZombie, I know this may be a hint on a comparison, but believe me, it isn't. Romance comparison threads have been done countless times before, and they never end well. Be sure that this isn't one of them, even when it looks like it.

This thread is SOLELY about Thane's romance. If you have anything to say about his romance, or agree/disagree with anything I said in the OP, you are more than welcome to post in here and I will be more than happy to respond, otherwise please don't.

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Hmmm. You've certainly found a way to spin all the things I didn't really like about the Thane romance into positive qualities. I've got some Shepards underway and one of them could really go in for everything you've put down here, Fiery.



Erin would thank you if she knew. Then again, she'd also probably shoot me since I'm planning to have her leave Kaiden behind...

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Christmas Ape wrote...

Hmmm. You've certainly found a way to spin all the things I didn't really like about the Thane romance into positive qualities. I've got some Shepards underway and one of them could really go in for everything you've put down here, Fiery.

Erin would thank you if she knew. Then again, she'd also probably shoot me since I'm planning to have her leave Kaiden behind...

Ha, thanks, Ape!  ^_^