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Riona45 wrote...

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No one bats an eyelash when warriors are involved, as they are everywhere. When the hero is a mage, the people of Thedas would certainly bat an eyelash. Just saying.


But that wasn't really what I was talking about.

I thought the person I was responding to was getting at the idea that it'd be somehow unrealistic or unbelievable--from the perspective of the player--for both the Warden and Hawke to have been female mages.  I on the other hand don't think it's a big deal.


Neither do I. I mean, Andraste was a very powerful mage, and many people like her. Image IPB
Why not more heroic mages?

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grrr. double post.

Modifié par DaerogTheDhampir, 24 septembre 2010 - 12:02 .


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This is off the present discussions a bit, but, I simply wanted to give a Big Thanks to the Devs, Gaider and all the Writers in the Pitt for giving the Universe of Thedas, i.e. Dragon Age, Mages. When DAO was first announced, and mention was made that the game would be heavily inspired by the works of R.R. Martin and his Song of Ice and Fire series, I was just a "bit" dissapointed at the idea that Thedas would not have any real "Magic," which, for me at least, has always been a corner-stone of High/Dark Fantasy. In Martin's series there is some evidence that Arcane/Dark Magic exsists in the form of certain characters, one in particular; however, it's still almost a Myth, though it's hinted strongly that this will change in a Big way as the series continues. (Pause) If it ever does.

Thankfully, with DAO we recieved Mages which were not only an intregal part of the Lore, Society, and Religion (some even think Andraste was just a "Neo" like Mage) but who played in a varied and complex way. Often, in Fantasy, Wizards/Mages are often relegated to support Roles. However, in DAO, one could take the charge and be center stage in the action. My "Avatar-like" (The show, not the film) Mage is always in the lead, laying down Elemental Power that can clear whole swaths of Darkspawn and other assorted Badies. However, when I first started playing, I was concerned that I would just be the standard at the back "Pew-Pew" spell-caster. But, by Level Ten? Great Cesar's ghost was I blown away.

Hopefully, the Uber-Nature of well put together Mages will not be lessened in Dragon Age. I understand *some* players did not like the fact that by End Game a well designed Mage almost at the Technical Cap could basically beat the game Solo. I, however, found that to be one of the best aspects. We are supposed to be the Hero of Fereldan and the Greatest Grey Warden since Garahel (spelling?) several hundred years before. It would be kind of hard to feel that way if a small group of Darkspawn or a couple of Archers could lay us down without a bunch of Tanks and Healers between us and them.

So, in closing, words can not begin to describe how much I appreciate what the writers/devs have done for those of us who love cold, hard, face-melting Magic. Now, all we need is for the Art Team to stop making us look like Cross-Dressers and everything is Solid Gold.
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Modifié par Sneelonz, 24 septembre 2010 - 01:06 .


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Hey everyone! If you haven't done so already come join the "Apostate sister society"! This group is for people who plan on playing female mages for DA2 (as their first character OR at some other point in time). Be sure to visit the welcoming topic and tell us all about your mage! What will her name be? Appearance? What do you have in mind for her combat talents? See you there!

social.bioware.com/group/2764/#group

Modifié par Golden-Rose, 24 septembre 2010 - 02:08 .


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I will be playing female mage in DA2, if I buy the game. How ever, I don't know what she will look and what spells she has, because I don't know what DA2 have. Most likely I will play elemental control/damage mage. I would never take Blood Mage or Arcane Warrior specializations.

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Lintanis, when you get around to it, replace the banners you have with these ones. These are being hosted on photobucket and I think they're "safer" there. Image IPB


Yes, yes, yes!!!
Thank you very much! :wizard:

Now only to figure out how to place that banner in my signature.

Thanks again!:wizard:

edit: can someone show me how to place it in my signature? I'm a bit illiterate concerning forums

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Your Profile: Forum setting

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Lintanis, when you get around to it, replace the banners you have with these ones. These are being hosted on photobucket and I think they're "safer" there. Image IPB


All updated and thanks again :wizard:

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So, if your Hawke is a mage, I assume you will be an apostate, like your sister is?

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AbsolutGrndZer0 wrote...

So, if your Hawke is a mage, I assume you will be an apostate, like your sister is?


I hope so. I've had enough of brown nosing the Circle.

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AbsolutGrndZer0 wrote...

So, if your Hawke is a mage, I assume you will be an apostate, like your sister is?


Yes you will both be apostates on the road to Templar controlled Kirkwall  ;):devil:

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I hope they won't know just how influential the Templars are in Kirkwall, else it is rather difficult to explain why they have to choose between these two evils, darkspawn or capture.

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Lintanis wrote...

Circle of Magi group social.bioware.com/group/2923/#group


Share the love for the Staff wielders :wizard:

What are you hoping for the Mage class in DA2? :)

What changes from the Origins equipment would you like? :)

What are you most looking forward to seeing in DA2? :)

And any other questions you like to discuss :)
Bring on the finishing moves :devil:

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no wait now its just the second one that doesn't work

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atheelogos wrote...

no wait now its just the second one that doesn't work


sorted try again :)

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AbsolutGrndZer0 wrote...

So, if your Hawke is a mage, I assume you will be an apostate, like your sister is?

Yes, Hawke's father was an apostate mage, and tutored Bethany (and Hawke if he/she is a mage) in magic. So, that would make them both apostate mages. I my self don't really like this, because it cause problems with Chantry and knowing Biowares way to create stories, they will force the issue agaist players options. Meaning player has only one way to react to situation, because story is set to so that player will be Apostate and have to behave that way. Problem isn't that it would not work well in story, but the problem is that it force player to play sertain role even if they don't want to be in that role. It mean there isn't really any choise in matter.

Modifié par Lumikki, 24 septembre 2010 - 11:25 .


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MariSkep wrote...

AbsolutGrndZer0 wrote...

So, if your Hawke is a mage, I assume you will be an apostate, like your sister is?


I hope so. I've had enough of brown nosing the Circle.


Maybe it means he might be teaching other mages his abilities in order to fight against the templars. It might mean that, unlike Origins, Hawke can help the mages in the Free Marches emancipate themselves from the Chantry.

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LobselVith8 wrote...

MariSkep wrote...

AbsolutGrndZer0 wrote...

So, if your Hawke is a mage, I assume you will be an apostate, like your sister is?


I hope so. I've had enough of brown nosing the Circle.


Maybe it means he might be teaching other mages his abilities in order to fight against the templars. It might mean that, unlike Origins, Hawke can help the mages in the Free Marches emancipate themselves from the Chantry.

Yes, that is one possibility how story could go. But what about players who doesn't want to fight agaist Chantry and still plays mages.

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MariSkep wrote...

AbsolutGrndZer0 wrote...

So, if your Hawke is a mage, I assume you will be an apostate, like your sister is?


I hope so. I've had enough of brown nosing the Circle.


LOL!  Well, to be fair, you were allowed to roleplay a DA:O mage as defiant.  In fact it was the premise of one path through the mage origin.

But certainly I look forward to being an apostate this time.Image IPB

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Lumikki wrote...

AbsolutGrndZer0 wrote...

So, if your Hawke is a mage, I assume you will be an apostate, like your sister is?

Yes, Hawke's father was an apostate mage, and tutored Bethany (and Hawke if he/she is a mage) in magic. So, that would make them both apostate mages. I my self don't really like this, because it cause problems with Chantry and knowing Biowares way to create stories, they will force the issue agaist players options. Meaning player has only one way to react to situation, because story is set to so that player will be Apostate and have to behave that way.


You must be joking.  More often than not, you have a choice of how to react in Bioware's games.

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Riona45 wrote...

Lumikki wrote...

AbsolutGrndZer0 wrote...

So, if your Hawke is a mage, I assume you will be an apostate, like your sister is?

Yes, Hawke's father was an apostate mage, and tutored Bethany (and Hawke if he/she is a mage) in magic. So, that would make them both apostate mages. I my self don't really like this, because it cause problems with Chantry and knowing Biowares way to create stories, they will force the issue agaist players options. Meaning player has only one way to react to situation, because story is set to so that player will be Apostate and have to behave that way.


You must be joking.  More often than not, you have a choice of how to react in Bioware's games.


You can choose how you feel about a certain situation, but ultimately you're going to have to behave the way Bioware wants you. For example, you have to be a Warden in DA:O.

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Riona45 wrote...

Lumikki wrote...

AbsolutGrndZer0 wrote...

So, if your Hawke is a mage, I assume you will be an apostate, like your sister is?

Yes, Hawke's father was an apostate mage, and tutored Bethany (and Hawke if he/she is a mage) in magic. So, that would make them both apostate mages. I my self don't really like this, because it cause problems with Chantry and knowing Biowares way to create stories, they will force the issue agaist players options. Meaning player has only one way to react to situation, because story is set to so that player will be Apostate and have to behave that way.


You must be joking.  More often than not, you have a choice of how to react in Bioware's games.

No, I'm not joking. You can make choises, but you can't make choises agaist story what Bioware has writen. Example if Bioware "force" you play apostate mage (Hawke or sister) agaist Chantry in story, you can't do anything agaist it, even how you would want play differently.

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Sneelonz wrote...

You can choose how you feel about a certain situation, but ultimately you're going to have to behave the way Bioware wants you. For example, you have to be a Warden in DA:O.


Yes, which is why I used the word "react."

Of course there are times when you have to do something no matter how you feel about it, that happens in every CRPG.