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[Water Dumple]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

MuteSpeech wrote...

Personally I think retaking the Quarian homeworld is better suited for a subplot of ME3.

This.

Indeed; I'd rather see it be more fully developed once we know more about the situation and whatnot.

The Phendrana Drifts mention is a well-deserved reference between two of the greatest games of all time, but recall that Legion says the Homeworld is more arid than earth; it wouldn't make much sense to have a cold area for the setting.

Also, I don't like the idea of being forced to return the Homeworld through violence, because if it's any sort of possibility, I'll be solving that problem peacefully. Both races have an equal right to exist, as this dicussion has apparently turned to "rights".

Modifié par Water Dumple, 13 septembre 2010 - 02:42 .

[upsettingshorts]

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...
] then what's the point of playing mass effect 1 which is the reason why mass effect 2 exist? "i don't want no one hating each other, because we must like the cupcakes and rainbows, and puppies and galactic peace", you.

I blew up the Heretic Geth in a massive explosion.  Believe me, there are no puppies and rainbows in my Shepard's universe.

But Legion - a conduit for the Orthodox Geth - says that his people believe that all species should self-determinate and would consider peace of the Quarians would quit shooting them every chance they get.

For the Quarians, Admiral Koris seems to want to give peace a chance.

I think those two should get together and have a talk.  No harm in trying.  Fact is if they can co-exist, they ought to work towards it.  War isn't always the answer.

[nickFury]

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

I don't want either side to fight the other. I want a cease-fire. Maybe a demilitarized zone on Rannoch that would allow Quarians to start to live there again, or at least to spend some time on a world where they could open up their suits again.

The first steps toward peace are going to be tough but they're worth shooting for.

Geth v. Quarian war just strikes me as a really quick way of getting a lot of Quarians killed.

 then what's the point of playing mass effect 1 which is the reason why mass effect 2 exist? "i don't want no one hating each other, because we must like the cupcakes and rainbows, and puppies and galactic peace", you.

This is so full of fail I just don't have the words

fortunately a picture is worth a thousand of em

[FuturePasTimeCE]

Dave of Canada wrote...

I'm pretty sure Future didn't play ME2 with the volume / subtitles on.

mass effect 2 is just pure entertainment.

that's like the matrix reloaded, made absolutely no sense compared to the original matrix. that's like in star wars 2, darth vader is actually the good guy type of crap.

[The Big Nothing]

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

I'm pretty sure Future didn't play ME2 with the volume / subtitles on.

mass effect 2 is just pure entertainment.

that's like the matrix reloaded, made absolutely no sense compared to the original matrix. that's like in star wars 2, darth vader is actually the good guy type of crap.

Whoa, whoa - do not insult The Empire Strikes Back.

Modifié par The Big Nothing, 13 septembre 2010 - 02:42 .

[izmirtheastarach]

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...

that's like the matrix reloaded, made absolutely no sense compared to the original matrix. that's like in star wars 2, darth vader is actually the good guy type of crap.

If that is how you feel, then why are you here? Generally the people who are willing to debate in-game morality on forums are people who are fairly invested in the games. I would say the majority of us feel the ME2 had a deep and engaging story.

Why don't you go play some Halo 3 or something?

[FuturePasTimeCE]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...
] then what's the point of playing mass effect 1 which is the reason why mass effect 2 exist? "i don't want no one hating each other, because we must like the cupcakes and rainbows, and puppies and galactic peace", you.

I blew up the Heretic Geth in a massive explosion.  Believe me, there are no puppies and rainbows in my Shepard's universe.

But Legion - a conduit for the Orthodox Geth - says that his people believe that all species should self-determinate and would consider peace of the Quarians would quit shooting them every chance they get.

For the Quarians, Admiral Koris seems to want to give peace a chance.

I think those two should get together and have a talk.  No harm in trying.  Fact is if they can co-exist, they ought to work towards it.  War isn't always the answer.

legion is just 1 robot of probable billions... do you think he'd matter in what he independently thinks within the rest of the separate groups? orthodox/heretic? they're all the same... legion would likely be targeted by either side as a defected defect amongst other defected machines called geth.

":like people and robots should just get together and hug, and talk it out with feelings...", you... what type of crap is this?

Modifié par FuturePasTimeCE, 13 septembre 2010 - 02:45 .

[The Big Nothing]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...
] then what's the point of playing mass effect 1 which is the reason why mass effect 2 exist? "i don't want no one hating each other, because we must like the cupcakes and rainbows, and puppies and galactic peace", you.

I blew up the Heretic Geth in a massive explosion.  Believe me, there are no puppies and rainbows in my Shepard's universe.

But Legion - a conduit for the Orthodox Geth - says that his people believe that all species should self-determinate and would consider peace of the Quarians would quit shooting them every chance they get.

For the Quarians, Admiral Koris seems to want to give peace a chance.

I think those two should get together and have a talk.  No harm in trying.  Fact is if they can co-exist, they ought to work towards it.  War isn't always the answer.

Yes. War is fought over ideas, not brute strength and thus, the only way to resolve war is communication.

Modifié par The Big Nothing, 13 septembre 2010 - 02:45 .

[upsettingshorts]

Legion isn't defective. He connects to the greater Geth collective on several occasions. He is in effect, their ambassador, their representative.



"They're all the same." - A dangerous sentence to be throwing around when you're talking about war.

[FuturePasTimeCE]

Bennyjammin79 wrote...

Quarian fan service. Not interested.

 well come  up with a idea to help the geth destroy the universe then as a DLC (opposite of my idea).

[izmirtheastarach]

You are funny. Your arguments aren't very solid, but they are a little funny. Kudos to you, sir.

I caution anyone who wants to continue to try and argue with you seriously, as I don't think you are doing the same.

Modifié par izmirtheastarach, 13 septembre 2010 - 02:48 .

[upsettingshorts]

If the Geth want to destroy the universe they're taking their sweet time behind the Veil.

[The Big Nothing]

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...
] then what's the point of playing mass effect 1 which is the reason why mass effect 2 exist? "i don't want no one hating each other, because we must like the cupcakes and rainbows, and puppies and galactic peace", you.

I blew up the Heretic Geth in a massive explosion.  Believe me, there are no puppies and rainbows in my Shepard's universe.

But Legion - a conduit for the Orthodox Geth - says that his people believe that all species should self-determinate and would consider peace of the Quarians would quit shooting them every chance they get.

For the Quarians, Admiral Koris seems to want to give peace a chance.

I think those two should get together and have a talk.  No harm in trying.  Fact is if they can co-exist, they ought to work towards it.  War isn't always the answer.

legion is just 1 robot of probable billions... do you think he'd matter in what he independently thinks within the rest of the separate groups? orthodox/heretic? they're all the same... legion would likely be targeted by either side as a defected defect amongst other defected machines called geth.

":like people and robots should just get together and hug, and talk it out with feelings...", you... what type of crap is this?

I don't think you understand what is being said; Legion is an ambassador of sorts for the Orthodox geth, so think of him as a speaker-box for what all of those geth have to say. In effect, he is not one robot, but all of them.

Modifié par The Big Nothing, 13 septembre 2010 - 02:49 .

[izmirtheastarach]

The Big Nothing wrote...

I don't think you understand what is being said; Legion is an ambassador of sorts for the Orthodox geth, so think of him as a speaker-box for what all of those geth have to say. He is not one robot, he is all of them.

Oh, wow. Is that why he is called "Legion"? That's deep, man.

Modifié par izmirtheastarach, 13 septembre 2010 - 02:49 .

[The Big Nothing]

izmirtheastarach wrote...

The Big Nothing wrote...

I don't think you understand what is being said; Legion is an ambassador of sorts for the Orthodox geth, so think of him as a speaker-box for what all of those geth have to say. He is not one robot, he is all of them.

Oh, wow. Is that why he is called "Legion"? That's deep, man.

Thank you.

Modifié par The Big Nothing, 13 septembre 2010 - 02:50 .

[FuturePasTimeCE]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Legion isn't defective. He connects to the greater Geth collective on several occasions. He is in effect, their ambassador, their representative.

"They're all the same." - A dangerous sentence to be throwing around when you're talking about war.

haven't you not noticed the entire mass effect series is based upon a war with the geth and all? again, what is the point of mass effect? it's not like these machines are people like humans and aliens, they're defective crap who happen to destroy everything to then later come up with some bull**** excuse as to why they do it... calling themselves victims, or that they're fighting for their survival by targeting everyone else in the universe who had nothing to do with their existence period... those machines have the right of starting a galactic war with everyone, and if everyone else in the galaxy who treat this war as a actual war are evil and wrong for opposing the "victimized" geth.

Modifié par FuturePasTimeCE, 13 septembre 2010 - 03:04 .

[izmirtheastarach]

[quote]FuturePasTimeCE wrote...

"They're
all the same." - A dangerous sentence to be throwing around when you're
talking about war.[/quote] haven't you not noticed the entire mass
effect series is based upon a war with the geth and all? again, what is
the point of mass effect. it's not like these machines are people like
humans and aliens, they're defective crap who happen to destroy
everything to then later come up with some bull**** excuse as to why
they do it... calling themselves victims, or that they're fighting for
their survival by targeting everyone else in the universe who had
nothing to do with their existence period... those machines have the
right of starting a galactic war with everyone, and if everyone else in
the galaxy who treat this war as a actual war are evil and wrong for
opposing the "victimized" geth.[/quote]

Huh. Funny how there isn't actually a war with the Geth taking place in ME2. I guess they just forgot to put it in, right?

Modifié par izmirtheastarach, 13 septembre 2010 - 02:51 .

[FuturePasTimeCE]

izmirtheastarach wrote...

The Big Nothing wrote...

I don't think you understand what is being said; Legion is an ambassador of sorts for the Orthodox geth, so think of him as a speaker-box for what all of those geth have to say. He is not one robot, he is all of them.

Oh, wow. Is that why he is called "Legion"? That's deep, man. oh wow, edi named him. huh. i wonder if legion would be outnumbered and destroyed by his own legion of geth if legion tried facing them headon alone... would this ONE from a legion survive such odds if they'd likely consider it a synthetic mutation?

[upsettingshorts]

Are you drinking the Council's Kool-Aid, man? The events of Mass Effect 1 were about Sovereign and Saren. Geth were just convenient cannon fodder.



Anyway, this conversation is beyond pointless.

[izmirtheastarach]

Like I said, you're funny. Good luck with that.

[The Big Nothing]

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Legion isn't defective. He connects to the greater Geth collective on several occasions. He is in effect, their ambassador, their representative.

"They're all the same." - A dangerous sentence to be throwing around when you're talking about war.

haven't you not noticed the entire mass effect series is based upon a war with the geth and all? again, what is the point of mass effect. it's not like these machines are people like humans and aliens, they're defective crap who happen to destroy everything to then later come up with some bull**** excuse as to why they do it... calling themselves victims, or that they're fighting for their survival by targeting everyone else in the universe who had nothing to do with their existence period... those machines have the right of starting a galactic war with everyone, and if everyone else in the galaxy who treat this war as a actual war are evil and wrong for opposing the "victimized" geth.

If you were over 10 years old, you would know that everything that is done has some sort of justification, reasonable or not. 
Wait until you get a girlfriend and she dumps you, and then you try to justify hiding outside her window with "love".

Modifié par The Big Nothing, 13 septembre 2010 - 02:55 .

[Water Dumple]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Legion isn't defective. He connects to the greater Geth collective on several occasions. He is in effect, their ambassador, their representative.

"They're all the same." - A dangerous sentence to be throwing around when you're talking about war.

"You humans are all racist!"

Anyhow, now that the Legion has been misconstrued as 1/1,138th of what it actually is, this conversation isn't going anywhere.

Modifié par Water Dumple, 13 septembre 2010 - 02:53 .

[FuturePasTimeCE]

[quote]izmirtheastarach wrote...

[quote]FuturePasTimeCE wrote...

"They're
all the same." - A dangerous sentence to be throwing around when you're
talking about war.[/quote] haven't you not noticed the entire mass
effect series is based upon a war with the geth and all? again, what is
the point of mass effect. it's not like these machines are people like
humans and aliens, they're defective crap who happen to destroy
everything to then later come up with some bull**** excuse as to why
they do it... calling themselves victims, or that they're fighting for
their survival by targeting everyone else in the universe who had
nothing to do with their existence period... those machines have the
right of starting a galactic war with everyone, and if everyone else in
the galaxy who treat this war as a actual war are evil and wrong for
opposing the "victimized" geth.[/quote]

Huh. Funny how there isn't actually a war with the Geth taking place in ME2. I guess they just forgot to put it in, right?

[/quote] well in mass effect 1 it was war with the geth, and in mass effect 2 it's fighting the collectors... yet they both worked for the same source. But there is Mass Effect 2: Overlord, and alot of robotic foes, mainly geth.

Modifié par FuturePasTimeCE, 13 septembre 2010 - 03:08 .

[The Big Nothing]

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...

izmirtheastarach wrote...

The Big Nothing wrote...

I don't think you understand what is being said; Legion is an ambassador of sorts for the Orthodox geth, so think of him as a speaker-box for what all of those geth have to say. He is not one robot, he is all of them.

Oh, wow. Is that why he is called "Legion"? That's deep, man. oh wow, edi named him. huh. i wonder if legion would be outnumbered and destroyed by his own legion of geth if legion tried facing them headon alone... would this ONE from a legion survive such odds if they'd likely consider it a synthetic mutation?

Wtf are you talking about? Are you drunk-typing?

*Sigh* I remember when I had my first beer.

Modifié par The Big Nothing, 13 septembre 2010 - 02:56 .