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Shiran

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I am not sure if I can be posting spoilers, but Shepard dies at the end of Mass Effect 2 during the suicide mission. The Reapers start traveling towards Milky Way Galaxy. They cannot use Mass Relay system because Sovereign was destroyed, and they no longer have access to the Citadel. That means they have to travel slowly. There are no energy sources in intra galactic space. And they are very far away. Without access to Mass Relay network even with FTL propulsion it will take them millions of years to reach Milky Way.

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robtheguru

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Shiran wrote...

I am not sure if I can be posting spoilers, but Shepard dies at the end of Mass Effect 2 during the suicide mission. The Reapers start traveling towards Milky Way Galaxy. They cannot use Mass Relay system because Sovereign was destroyed, and they no longer have access to the Citadel. That means they have to travel slowly. There are no energy sources in intra galactic space. And they are very far away. Without access to Mass Relay network even with FTL propulsion it will take them millions of years to reach Milky Way.


Shepard does not die at the end of ME2. Bioware have already said, if your Shepard died at the end of ME2, you will not be able to import it to ME3. If your Shepard did die during the Suicide Mission, then you did pretty bad.

As for the Reapers they'll find a way. To think our Galaxy is the only one with Mass Relays is probably wrong, it is probably much like the ancients in Stargate dropping Stargates on every known inhabitable planet. So i'd think that in some unexplored parts of our own Galaxy there are Relays that link to distant Galaxies, much in the way of the Omega Relay. Either way, you're taking this topic, off topic. I suggest you go make a new post.

As for post ME3, I wouldn't mind a prequel but would much prefer seeing something featuring the current cast in cameo roles. 50 years down the line featuring Shepard as part of the council, Garrus running C-Sec and stuff like that.

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Is mass effect a universe, or a style of game? I know bioware make mostly RPG's... but there is potential here to expand to other arenas of gaming all set in the "Mass Effect Universe".

Like the star wars universe has flight simulators, Rpg's, First Person Shooters, Battle game, Stratagy games...

I think the mass effect universe is detailed enough through the content of the rpg that you can pretty much make a game involving any aspect now, RPG may not be top of the agenda. I'd like to "Actually" command a Taurian or Geth army/space fleet.... it could be quite awesome, as there are things in stratagy games you just can't do in RPG's.... you do need a different game engine for that.

I love my mass effect rpg's... I'd just like the universe to be made richer by letting you take command of huge armies or space fleets...or let you find out exactly how good a pilot joker is with a combat flight sim.

Harking back to the good old days of x-wing v tie fighter, or any of the other star wars games, ALL had story arc's regardless of you not having a "Speaking part",

Modifié par stewie1974, 13 septembre 2010 - 11:26 .


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Wait, Mass Effect TOTAL WAR



"The council is at a crossroads in history, The Batarian rebels have united the Terminus systems and war seems upon them"



Asari councilor: "Is there any chance for peace?"



Salarian councilor: "No chance, data confirms fleet massing on citadel space border, humans being pushed back thru verge, I suggest, attack first"



Human councilor: "We will need a declaration of war first"



Salarian councilor "Dont declare, Naive human idea, Always surprise attack, don't start war thats not already won, your Sun Tzu said that"



Hanar councilor: "This one firmly believes that peace is preferable to war"



Quarian councilor: "We just got back the the home world, we need time to rebuild, peace is the only way"



Geth councilor: "Peace with Terminus, unlikely, Slarian's words justified."



Elcor councilor: "Grim displeasure, This will not be an easy war to win"



Turian councilor: "Wait... a war with the Terminus... I have dismissed that claim"



Everyone else: "STFU"



i think it could work

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stewie1974 wrote...

Is mass effect a universe, or a style of game? I know bioware make mostly RPG's... but there is potential here to expand to other arenas of gaming all set in the "Mass Effect Universe".

Like the star wars universe has flight simulators, Rpg's, First Person Shooters, Battle game, Stratagy games...

I think the mass effect universe is detailed enough through the content of the rpg that you can pretty much make a game involving any aspect now, RPG may not be top of the agenda. I'd like to "Actually" command a Taurian or Geth army/space fleet.... it could be quite awesome, as there are things in stratagy games you just can't do in RPG's.... you do need a different game engine for that.

I love my mass effect rpg's... I'd just like the universe to be made richer by letting you take command of huge armies or space fleets...or let you find out exactly how good a pilot joker is with a combat flight sim.

Harking back to the good old days of x-wing v tie fighter, or any of the other star wars games, ALL had story arc's regardless of you not having a "Speaking part",

Given the amount of stuff they have put into the codex over the first two games and undoubtedly will put in the third, i'd say Mass Effect is certainly a universe rather than a style of game.

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I'm happy just so long as it isn't a bloody MMO.

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I hope ME will not be an MMO.



OK, MMO's are great, but personally I like more single player RPG's. I really-really loved the KOTOR, and I'm not happy about TOR. TOR seems a really-really fine MMO, but I have no time for MMOs. I really-really wanted to play a KOTOR3 - instead we have to play TOR to explore the aftereffects of KOTOR.



As I said I have no time for MMOs - and I think if you would like to create a good story with splendid characters and everthing, you have to create a single player RPG, like ME.



But I think Bioware will not create ME MMO. ME is a huge success, but I think this is simply not enough for an MMO. At every week we can see the launch of an MMO, which will die within a few month - there are too much MMOs available. And Bioware also has TOR.

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Well BioWare might just want to move on to other things after ME3. Hell I'm still waiting for a Jade Empire 2. However, Mass Effect has legs, it's a rich enough universe that they could easily do spin-offs and they would be well received. Shepard should be put to rest, like Master Chief, but whereas Halo was mostly centered around MC, Mass Effect is more a collaboration of characters. Give me a full game with Jack as the main character or Samara or Thane, Tali, Wrex, etc. I'd buy that in a heartbeat.

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yummysoap wrote...

I'm happy just so long as it isn't a bloody MMO.


Yes.  I don't play well with others and they have done their MMO.  Don't need another one.  Need games for single players.  

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I do want a new game in the Mass Effect universe, playing as some other species as others have said. A quarian I would think, with a geth companion. It would be in the future after the geth and the quarians are at peace and coexist. Quarians would get geth companions when they reach a certain age and go on pilgrimage or something (a tradition).



I dunno, just throwing crap out there, but I want a geth companion/sidekick.

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Ive said this before but Ill say it again. I would love a origins pack. Like Zaheed and the Blue Suns, Samara and her troops. Liara and the past 2 years *hearts*, Garrus (of course), even Talis mission, or maybe Jacks life. Just small exposes in a bundle. I would really love to know what happened to them

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Protheans planted hummies with REAPER VIRUS into their genes when they were apes,
and when they would be turned into giant borg, they would infect all the Smit... no Reapers and kill them. But with their good intentions Shep and co. destroyed the Protheans' master plan and in Mass 3 they have to fix the trouble they caused.
But first Shepard has to break free from the prison!

Or hopefully not.
I just want a game with less sloppy writing.

Modifié par Mir5, 14 septembre 2010 - 01:37 .


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anyone up for Lego Mass Effect?



Seriously, I agree that having threats other than the Reapers would significantly diminish the series. I've yet to feel one-upped by the Sovereign conversation on Virmire. ME2, despite better gameplay never quite topped ME1 storywise.



Although, highly likely that BW will be spewing out spinoffs left and right. Maybe Obsidian can pick up the new series again with a half finished product ... again.

I think the KOTOR 2 restoration project is still on-going.

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robtheguru wrote...

uberdowzen wrote...

I really don't want any more ME games after ME3. My main issue is that if the Reapers are defeated (not a certainty I guess) then they'd have to come up with some new threat and that'd either lessen the evilness of the Reapers or never live up to them. Bioware should move on to another universe when the trilogy is finished.

Yet I bet you'd still buy a new ME game if they released one lol

Seriously though, obviously defeating the Reapers is a massive task but Bioware can do whatever they want. The Krogan could find a cure for the Genophage and make a massive army that the other races need to defend against or the Turians could mobilise against humanity after further troubles. There are plenty of things they could do and I really hope to see more.

Anyone who disagrees can just not buy the game, although if it has Mass Effect in the title, I doubt that will happen.


If Bioware did another Mass Effect game after ME3 I probably would buy it, but my purchase would be tinged with dissapointment. Even though Mass Effect is an awesome universe I really want to see Bioware make more worlds. Playing a sequel to a game you love is great, exploring a new universe is better.

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I could easy see Bioware making a new series of games, The Mass Effect universe is huge and you can never run out of places to go to - Perhaps a series about explorers, opening up new Mass relays and go..you know exploring.. they shall call it Mass Trek!!

In any case i think it's a universe we will be seeing a lot of in the future, And if the movie is a success(well it could happen) it might become a major franchise.

Modifié par Anacronian Stryx, 14 septembre 2010 - 08:46 .


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Honestly, there are few things I hate as much as continuing a story past its intended age and purpose just for the sake of more cash. Regardless of how much I currently love the ME series, aside from some potential DLC's even long after ME3, I would rather not see it continued.

ME was about Shepard and her crew, I don't want a game focused in the ME universe without them. And with them it would probably seem overdone and rehashing the same old. It's precisely because I love the story and characters of ME that I would rather have BW focus fully on an entirely new saga. Again with a new story, new characters, completely new gameplay etc.

I'm not saying that returning to ME would absolutely be a mistake. No doubt BW could make it work. And heck, I'd be insanely thrilled to see a continuation of BG2 / JE / KOTOR after all this time, no doubt the same will apply to ME in the future as well. But for now, three games + all the DLC is a lot of games of one subject.

But if, and I'm saying IF there was to be a new story in the ME world where you didn't play Shepard, I would like something very different from Shep's story. I would like a fundamentally different type of character. Someone who was not all hero and epic power and influence, who was just some little more than an ordinary guy or gal in the wrong place at the wrong time, and played a small yet vital role in some event in the galaxy. I imagine a scene where the player character would witness Shepard and her team in action in a beautiful cinematic displaying their incredible power and ability from an outside point of view. And I imagine that your playable character should be someone who would never reach the power that Shepard is. After all, Shepard is drawing quite close to the equivalent of the BG2 protagonist: a virtual God. So what I would like is a story that sometimes crossed with Shepard and her actions, but one that would not go beyond it in power or significance.

I still prefer a completely different setting and new story & characters altogether though.

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What about a prequel game - Mass Effect: First Contact

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If you ask me, after ME3 Bioware should make a new IP again. Just leave the trilogy for what it is and move on.

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Garrus: The Game

You'd buy it. You wouldn't even need to know what it was about.

Also you spelled Shepard wrong.

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Mass Effect: Galaxy of Fantasy. It's based on Turian mythology.

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Bioware have created a vast universe with the Mass Effect series, why bother ditching it? There is no real reason. What if the creators of Star Trek decided not to do any more series and stop with the original because it "wouldn't be the same without the original characters?" More of the same works, Halo(never played it) clearly works by the amount of different spin off games they have had. If they weren't still making money, they wouldn't keep doing them.



So in terms of Mass Effect, I hope to god they carry on with the universe because the races are unique in their own ways and everything about the setting is interesting. For those who don't want a continuation, don't buy the game.

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Zan Mura wrote...

Honestly, there are few things I hate as much as continuing a story past its intended age and purpose just for the sake of more cash. Regardless of how much I currently love the ME series, aside from some potential DLC's even long after ME3, I would rather not see it continued.

ME was about Shepard and her crew, I don't want a game focused in the ME universe without them. And with them it would probably seem overdone and rehashing the same old. It's precisely because I love the story and characters of ME that I would rather have BW focus fully on an entirely new saga. Again with a new story, new characters, completely new gameplay etc.

I'm not saying that returning to ME would absolutely be a mistake. No doubt BW could make it work. And heck, I'd be insanely thrilled to see a continuation of BG2 / JE / KOTOR after all this time, no doubt the same will apply to ME in the future as well. But for now, three games + all the DLC is a lot of games of one subject.

But if, and I'm saying IF there was to be a new story in the ME world where you didn't play Shepard, I would like something very different from Shep's story. I would like a fundamentally different type of character. Someone who was not all hero and epic power and influence, who was just some little more than an ordinary guy or gal in the wrong place at the wrong time, and played a small yet vital role in some event in the galaxy. I imagine a scene where the player character would witness Shepard and her team in action in a beautiful cinematic displaying their incredible power and ability from an outside point of view. And I imagine that your playable character should be someone who would never reach the power that Shepard is. After all, Shepard is drawing quite close to the equivalent of the BG2 protagonist: a virtual God. So what I would like is a story that sometimes crossed with Shepard and her actions, but one that would not go beyond it in power or significance.

I still prefer a completely different setting and new story & characters altogether though.



This is like saying a star wars game can't work without luke skywalker as the main character.

Evidently this simply is not true... the success of games such as Biowares very own Knights Of The Old Republic...and  lucasarts the dark forces/jedi knight series.... and Force Unleashed prove to be quite contary.

Mass Effect is a universe, the series is not called "Commander Shepard and the reapers"... If it was, I'd agree the universe would die with him..... but this is not the case... Your argument can stand true for Duke Nukem.. Indiana Jones, Superman.... where the titled characters are the only focus... Mass Effect however has a whole unique setting that can work with out the established characters just as the star wars games can.

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I agree they need a new story arc but a new universe??? They would be throwing away a huge amount of untapped potential to start from scratch. I really can't see any sensible reason or desire for this unless you thought that the ME setting was in some way flawed. If they were to throw it away I don't see how they could justify another sci-fi setting either.



As I said before, I think it would be kind of cool to come back to the ME world and see what has changed and what has stayed the same 100 years after the Reapers are defeated. Assuming they are defeated.

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Malanek999 wrote...

I agree they need a new story arc but a new universe??? They would be throwing away a huge amount of untapped potential to start from scratch. I really can't see any sensible reason or desire for this unless you thought that the ME setting was in some way flawed. If they were to throw it away I don't see how they could justify another sci-fi setting either.

As I said before, I think it would be kind of cool to come back to the ME world and see what has changed and what has stayed the same 100 years after the Reapers are defeated. Assuming they are defeated.

I'd just like to see a future story arc based in a time where the current characters can be featured in cameos. Whether Shepard makes it to the council or Garrus is running C-Sec. Something where the characters play no major role, but you can just see what they are doing after the Reaper war. Would be cool if you could import your ME3 save and whoever your LI is, your party for the next game will feature one of their children lol. Assuming they go with the action RPG again of course.

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They developed their own IP precisely for this reason. It's tricky, though. If the decisions have some pretty serious consequences at the ME3 then it could profoundly affect the universe in any future game so would they come up with a canon ending? Or stick with prequels? This isn't nice like Star Wars where you can leap thousands of years back or forwards and nothing changes because its all an endless cycle.



But I can't see you importing a save from the original ME series either - thats potentially a lot of changes. So maybe the next one is a prequel but eventually I wonder if they will be forced to accept some canon.