it's human nature to compare something alien with something you know, which is why we compare Talis accent with something we know.TheodoricFriede wrote...
I don't know what your all talking about. All this talk about Russian accents and Ukrainian accents and eastern European accents...Her accent is clearly a Quarian accent.
My statement was for to laugh. Trust me, I may be dull, but im not that dull.TTTX wrote...
it's human nature to compare something alien with something you know, which is why we compare Talis accent with something we know.TheodoricFriede wrote...
I don't know what your all talking about. All this talk about Russian accents and Ukrainian accents and eastern European accents...Her accent is clearly a Quarian accent.
mrsph wrote...
Kikaimegami wrote...
I think it sounds really Russian/Ukrainian personally, same as Prazza's accent (which is totally Russian and sounds like Niko in GTA: IV).
Prazza shares the same VA with Zevran.
The universal translators are already a little "magical" in that they can translate anything we ever hear t in real-time. I figured that if these things are powerful enough to do that, then they can simulate, based on how Tali pronounces Khelish for example, how it would sound if she spoke English.Kikaimegami wrote...
I honestly don't remember what fanfic it was, but a story I read recently put forth the idea of the different accents quarians have as translators giving quality to the fact that there's different dialects of Khelish being spoken, because the quarian people try to keep their culture from stagnating by keeping the dialects they originally had before the Morning War and which are spoken depending on what ship you're on. There's also a "common dialect" used for communication inter-Flotilla, but because of translators, they usually just default to their "native" dialects. I really liked that explanation for why they seem to all have different accents. I wish I could remember where I read it so I could give that author credit where credit is due.
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You know, in animation they actually video the voice actors saying their lines and add some of the facial features and body movements into the animation itself. I've wondered if the Bioware developers ever did something similar, but perhaps that's too much trouble for just a game. Still, it would be interesting if some of Tali's movements were modeled after what Liz Sroka was doing in the booth.Volrath937 wrote...
Edit: Liz is a professional dance-choreographer I believe, she needs to do some motion-capped Tali dances.
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Pacifien wrote...
You know, in animation they actually video the voice actors saying their lines and add some of the facial features and body movements into the animation itself. I've wondered if the Bioware developers ever did something similar, but perhaps that's too much trouble for just a game. Still, it would be interesting if some of Tali's movements were modeled after what Liz Sroka was doing in the booth.Volrath937 wrote...
Edit: Liz is a professional dance-choreographer I believe, she needs to do some motion-capped Tali dances.
The embarrassed TalihandsPacifien wrote...
You know, in animation they actually video the voice actors saying their lines and add some of the facial features and body movements into the animation itself. I've wondered if the Bioware developers ever did something similar, but perhaps that's too much trouble for just a game. Still, it would be interesting if some of Tali's movements were modeled after what Liz Sroka was doing in the booth.
It would be fun if she really did that.
Shepard got worse at dancing, he needs some privat dancing lesson from Tali.Eldareus wrote...
I want to see Tali's dance moves. You know in ME1 you could dance with Liara/Ash (probably Kaiden though I never played a femshep to find out), but in ME2 you couldn't any of your squadies. Perhaps having seen Shepards moves they were too embarrassed to be seen with you.
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Kikaimegami wrote...
I think it sounds really Russian/Ukrainian personally, same as Prazza's accent (which is totally Russian and sounds like Niko in GTA: IV).
mrsph wrote...
Shepard is the most boring man in the galaxy. What Tali sees in him I have no idea.
The only example we have, sadly, is the snippet of her in the Meet the Cast video. And it looks like she's holding the script in that one.Pacifien wrote...
You know, in animation they actually video the voice actors saying their lines and add some of the facial features and body movements into the animation itself. I've wondered if the Bioware developers ever did something similar, but perhaps that's too much trouble for just a game. Still, it would be interesting if some of Tali's movements were modeled after what Liz Sroka was doing in the booth.
Heroism. Acceptance. Support.mrsph wrote...
Shepard is the most boring man in the galaxy. What Tali sees in him I have no idea.
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Kikaimegami wrote...
I think it sounds really Russian/Ukrainian personally, same as Prazza's accent (which is totally Russian and sounds like Niko in GTA: IV).NikoTali, my cousin!
I can hear it in my head!
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I do believe those three main items you listed NuclearBuddha cover most of her reasons quite well. Though I would change the order somewhat putting Acceptance first and Heroism last.NuclearBuddha wrote...
Heroism. Acceptance. Support.mrsph wrote...
Shepard is the most boring man in the galaxy. What Tali sees in him I have no idea.
Probably other stuff, too. But from her dialogue, those.
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Kikaimegami wrote...
Well you can be sure it isn't Shepard's ability to dance that attracts her.
It's the arms and shoulders. Seriously, did you see the arms quarian males have?Kikaimegami wrote...
Well you can be sure it isn't Shepard's ability to dance that attracts her.
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Volrath937 wrote...
Yeah, I was a bit confused the first time I played ME2 and she had nothing to say about Legion. I was wondering if I needed to have her on the Reaper mission or something.
She argues against bringing Legion back with you if you take her on that mission.
Yeah, but so does Garrus, for example. I'm sure other squaddies object as well (eg. Miranda, who also objects on the ship afterwards). I really think Tali should've had more specific dialogue with Legion. Yes, her LM is very different if you bring it along, but I was very disappointed not to see any unique dialogue when I brought her on its LM. If anything, that's the mission that would've given her perspective on geth and made her more amenable to giving it some info to send afterwards. I always bring her along anyway, from a purely RP perspective, but it would've been great to see more interaction between them, considering the importance of the geth/quarian conflict in the ME-verse as a whole.
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I also like that Tali "grew up" in between the two games. Idealism is all well and good, but when reality turns out to be less than ideal, it's good to see her own up to it. Shows that she's able to evolve.
To go back a bit on the accents, it is also perfectly possible that the various actors were simply unable to replicate Sroka's accent. But none of them has a French accent, that's for certain (*points at Leliana* that's a real French accent). Rael didn't strike me as sounding German either, but then again, we never heard him in person. Tali's accent itself sounds like an odd mix between something Eastern European (without being proper Russian) and Middle-Eastern.
as Tali said " A dasing commander who let her join his crew then goes of to save the galaxy. how can she develop any kind of interest for him," in other words what a way to sweep a girl of her feet.Kikaimegami wrote...
Well you can be sure it isn't Shepard's ability to dance that attracts her.
Thundertactics wrote...
It's the arms and shoulders. Seriously, did you see the arms quarian males have?Kikaimegami wrote...
Well you can be sure it isn't Shepard's ability to dance that attracts her.
Like damned string.
But yeah, acceptance mainly, heroism too (her "I've watched you for so long" speech definitely indicates this), but also a lot of trust built over time. Trust is an exceptionally large part of her character and romance.
Hence why I hate it when people ship Tali with anyone other than Shepard, she clearly states she'd never trusted anyone other than him/her enough to actually show her face. (Yes, I'd definitely support Tali showing her face to femShep at some point. Like Shala linking up with Tali's mom.) To destroy her character character like that just to hook her up with the likes of Kal would be disrespectful to the material BioWare provides you with. (Not to mention there's something called friendship, too. But apparantly a female and male can't be nice to eachother without there being some sort of sexual tension.)
Thundertactics wrote...
Hence why I hate it when people ship Tali with anyone other than Shepard, she clearly states she'd never trusted anyone other than him/her enough to actually show her face. (Yes, I'd definitely support Tali showing her face to femShep at some point. Like Shala linking up with Tali's mom.) To destroy her character character like that just to hook her up with the likes of Kal would be disrespectful to the material BioWare provides you with. (Not to mention there's something called friendship, too. But apparantly a female and male can't be nice to eachother without there being some sort of sexual tension.)
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