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Débuté par Collider , sept. 13 2010 07:37

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Posté 22 septembre 2010 - 03:45

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Someone With Mass wrote...

A sun prematurely dying in one their former colony systems should be interesting, with the fact that they might reclaim those colonies one day.


Not to mention there might be concerns the geth caused it which would definitely interest the quarians.

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Posté 22 septembre 2010 - 03:45

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that what i'm saying if they planed on taking back their home world from the geth how could they if theri best marines were KIA in a simple op and freedoms....


Y'know, that's a very good point. If anything is evidence that the quarians shouldn't go to war against the geth, is how they handled the Alarei. How many people did they lose trying to recapture one ship?

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Posté 22 septembre 2010 - 03:48

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All quarians being hackers and great with technology is probably a stereotype. Sure most of them have experiance with those things from having to work on ships their whole life, but most of them are probably better at other things.



Tali is just a freaky genius and continues the theme of the aliens being the best of the best from their races.

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Posté 22 septembre 2010 - 03:50

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Nilfalasiel wrote...


Y'know, that's a very good point. If anything is evidence that the quarians shouldn't go to war against the geth, is how they handled the Alarei. How many people did they lose trying to recapture one ship?


I think they were not only surprised that geth were actually on the ship, but that there were so many geth on the ship. Quarians seem to get taken by surprise a lot.

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Posté 22 septembre 2010 - 03:50

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Maybe the truth of the matter is Quarians in general make lousy soldiers and no amount of planning or leadership skills can counter this liability. When they cannot even recapture one of their own ships without outside assistance well something is horribly wrong with their fighting force.

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Posté 22 septembre 2010 - 03:53

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Nilfalasiel wrote...

Y'know, that's a very good point. If anything is evidence that the quarians shouldn't go to war against the geth, is how they handled the Alarei. How many people did they lose trying to recapture one ship?


Well, their original plan was to simply blow up the ship.
The quarians can't handle ground battles. Their best option is to strike with their ships, and not even that is a good idea.

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Eldareus wrote...

Maybe the truth of the matter is Quarians in general make lousy soldiers and no amount of planning or leadership skills can counter this liability. When they cannot even recapture one of their own ships without outside assistance well something is horribly wrong with their fighting force.


Doesn't Kal pretty much say that overall the quarian troops are crap?  And is it Reegor or Reegar?  I can never remember.

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Posté 22 septembre 2010 - 04:00

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Doesn't Kal pretty much say that overall the quarian troops are crap?  And is it Reegor or Reegar?  I can never remember.


It's ReegAr. And yes, he does say something to the effect that quarians have no hope of winning a full-out frontline war. Small strike teams are supposedly optimal for them...

...but then you see how small strike teams fared on Freedom's Progress, Haestrom and the Alarei...Posted Image

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Posté 22 septembre 2010 - 04:08

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Then there's no wonder that Tali has no good leader skills. Everyone dies either way.

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Posté 22 septembre 2010 - 04:16

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Y'know, that's a very good point. If anything is evidence that the quarians shouldn't go to war against the geth, is how they handled the Alarei. How many people did they lose trying to recapture one ship?

I have this crazy theory Han'Gerrel decided to send in rookies that would be sure to get killed, so he could paint it off as "too much of a risk" and blow the Alarei up, getting rid of any evidence implicating Rael.

Don't pay attention to it, though.

That said, all quarians we've seen so far, with the exception being Tali, have proven to be complete idiots in combat. Charging head first into enemy fire, not bothering to check their six, staying in cover, etc.

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Posté 22 septembre 2010 - 04:23

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Not even Shepard can charge a YMIR mech head on, so what makes the quarians think they're so special?

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Posté 22 septembre 2010 - 04:29

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Thundertactics wrote...

Nilfalasiel wrote...


Y'know, that's a very good point. If anything is evidence that the quarians shouldn't go to war against the geth, is how they handled the Alarei. How many people did they lose trying to recapture one ship?

I have this crazy theory Han'Gerrel decided to send in rookies that would be sure to get killed, so he could paint it off as "too much of a risk" and blow the Alarei up, getting rid of any evidence implicating Rael.

Don't pay attention to it, though.

That said, all quarians we've seen so far, with the exception being Tali, have proven to be complete idiots in combat. Charging head first into enemy fire, not bothering to check their six, staying in cover, etc.



That's excellent speculation. Some admirals did seem eager to blow up the Alarei rather then figure out what went wrong. 

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Posté 22 septembre 2010 - 04:34

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Can't blame the admirals for wanting to fire and forget, though.



There were many things on the Alarei that could very well tip the balance of power and support among them.

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Posté 22 septembre 2010 - 04:37

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Everyone in Mass Effect seems to be an idiot when it comes to combat. Unless they work directly with Shepard.



If everyone was super competent then the game would be boring because Cerberus actually managed to not **** up for once.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

Not even Shepard can charge a YMIR mech head on, so what makes the quarians think they're so special?


I actually think the mech surprised them, but yes they were stupid to go charging blindly off not know what was around the next corner.

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Thundertactics wrote...

Nilfalasiel wrote...


Y'know, that's a very good point. If anything is evidence that the quarians shouldn't go to war against the geth, is how they handled the Alarei. How many people did they lose trying to recapture one ship?

I have this crazy theory Han'Gerrel decided to send in rookies that would be sure to get killed, so he could paint it off as "too much of a risk" and blow the Alarei up, getting rid of any evidence implicating Rael.

Don't pay attention to it, though.

That said, all quarians we've seen so far, with the exception being Tali, have proven to be complete idiots in combat. Charging head first into enemy fire, not bothering to check their six, staying in cover, etc.

Well, in all fairness.  Kal did survive.  He must be the quarian answer to Zaeed.
Or would that be Tali.

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Posté 22 septembre 2010 - 04:58

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Tali is the quarian Zaeed

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Posté 22 septembre 2010 - 05:03

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mrsph wrote...

Tali is the quarian Zaeed


Gives a whole new meaning to the "rage is a hell of an anaesthetic" phrase.

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Posté 22 septembre 2010 - 05:04

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Not to mention she is packing a shotgun.

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Posté 22 septembre 2010 - 05:09

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Calinstel wrote...

Well, in all fairness.  Kal did survive.  He must be the quarian answer to Zaeed.
Or would that be Tali.

Kal only survives because he's smart enough to actually listen to Shepard when (s)he says it's not a good idea to charge head on into enemy fire. (It does take a bit of convincing, though)
Or if he gets lucky and you manage to take out all the geth before he pops out of cover and never gets back into it.

And Tali's definitely the quarian Zaeed, only she actually feels bad about the people she loses.

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Posté 22 septembre 2010 - 05:10

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And that she names one of her weapons.

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Posté 22 septembre 2010 - 05:12

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The only big difference is that Tali probably can't survive a gunshot to the head.

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Posté 22 septembre 2010 - 05:18

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Someone With Mass wrote...

The only big difference is that Tali probably can't survive a gunshot to the head.

Not many people can:lol:

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Posté 22 septembre 2010 - 05:20

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Actually, the real difference is that the person who even tried to do that to Tali would have been 'removed from active breathing' by Shepard.

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Posté 22 septembre 2010 - 05:22

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Thundertactics wrote...

Nilfalasiel wrote...


Y'know, that's a very good point. If anything is evidence that the quarians shouldn't go to war against the geth, is how they handled the Alarei. How many people did they lose trying to recapture one ship?

I have this crazy theory Han'Gerrel decided to send in rookies that would be sure to get killed, so he could paint it off as "too much of a risk" and blow the Alarei up, getting rid of any evidence implicating Rael.

Don't pay attention to it, though.

That said, all quarians we've seen so far, with the exception being Tali, have proven to be complete idiots in combat. Charging head first into enemy fire, not bothering to check their six, staying in cover, etc.


Kal'Reeger seems to at least be competent, but overall, yes, the Quarians don't seem to have a strong military tradition.
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