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[camoboy_19]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Or, she could use her knife, jam it into the enemy, and then use Overload with her omni-tool while she's holding the knife with the same hand. Like a...less sophisticated version of Shadow Strike.

like 10x more badass though.

[camoboy_19]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

I agree that Tali definitely needs to stab something at least once. Maybe a geth hunter, right in its flashlight eye if she could do it without getting electrocuted. Maybe she just uses that thing as a tool for various mechanical stuff. I mean do we know it's a knife as in a large bowie type knife? Maybe she has like a deluxe swiss army knife with 18 different useful attachments in that scabbard.

I can understand the idea of Tali being ready as much as she possibly can. I wouldn't expect much less. 

[Nilfalasiel]

Yeah, I was surprised that Tali didn't have Overload in ME2. If it makes sense for any squaddie, it's definitely for her. Then again, Heavy Energy Drain is almost as damaging as Heavy Overload: Heavy Overload one-shots geth, Heavy Energy Drain leaves them with a sliver of health AND restores Tali's shields. Given the emphasis on her shields in ME1, I thought it was a very appropriate power for her to have.

AI Hacking also makes sense from that perspective, but it's really not useful...I'd be happy if they either gave Tali a more useful option in ME3, or somehow improved AI Hacking. Or maybe make synthetic enemies less prone to be destroyed in seconds.

Also, something odd I noticed while doing Legion's LM earlier: I brought Tali along, and she commented that she "didn't know geth built stations this large". But...the geth didn't build that station. The quarians did.  Even if Tali didn't know that, wouldn't she have recognized her people's handicraft? And why didn't Legion correct her when she said that? Because I'm sure it knew the geth hadn't built the station.

[camoboy_19]

Nilfalasiel wrote...

Yeah, I was surprised that Tali didn't have Overload in ME2. If it makes sense for any squaddie, it's definitely for her. Then again, Heavy Energy Drain is almost as damaging as Heavy Overload: Heavy Overload one-shots geth, Heavy Energy Drain leaves them with a sliver of health AND restores Tali's shields. Given the emphasis on her shields in ME1, I thought it was a very appropriate power for her to have.

AI Hacking also makes sense from that perspective, but it's really not useful...I'd be happy if they either gave Tali a more useful option in ME3, or somehow improved AI Hacking. Or maybe make synthetic enemies less prone to be destroyed in seconds.

Also, something odd I noticed while doing Legion's LM earlier: I brought Tali along, and she commented that she "didn't know geth built stations this large". But...the geth didn't build that station. The quarians did.  Even if Tali didn't know that, wouldn't she have recognized her people's handicraft? And why didn't Legion correct her when she said that? Because I'm sure it knew the geth hadn't built the station.

I'm not sure on that bit, Considering it's been a few centuries since the Quarians have built/seen their stations. It's tragic how Tali can't notice her people's work. Also, Maybe Legion doesn't think it's important who built it, he probably just views it as another station.

[Someone With Mass]

Maybe the geth extended the size of the station to suit their needs. At least it looks that way, judging by the design.

[camoboy_19]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Maybe the geth extended the size of the station to suit their needs. At least it looks that way, judging by the design.

That's good, I didn't think of that. Quarians probably didn't build 347 geth stations on there. The circuitry and all on the ground is new probably. Geth probably weren't on the station orginally.

Edit: Not to mention that the quarians stripped the station of it's resources as they left.

Modifié par camoboy_19, 26 septembre 2010 - 04:58 .

[camoboy_19]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

The real question is why the geth keep medi-gel kits lying around the station.

I was so confused when I saw that... Maybe the quarians forgot it

Quarian #1: What about these medi-gels?
Quarian #2: We had to make room for all the power cells for the turrets?
Quarian #1: What about the turrets!?
Quarian #2: Pfft, like anyone is ever going to use those.

Modifié par camoboy_19, 26 septembre 2010 - 05:00 .

[Giggles_Manically]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

The real question is why the geth keep medi-gel kits lying around the station.

The same reason Droids keep Bacta tanks on their ships in Republic Commando?

[camoboy_19]

mrsph wrote...

There is a lot of weird dialog like that around the game. Like this one in LotSB

Shadow Broker: I'm surprised you brought the quarian, T'soni. She got her whole unit killed on Heastrom

Liara: You aren't laying a hand on anyone!

What Liara says has nothing to do with what he said!

Shepard protect your woman!

[Someone With Mass]

mrsph wrote...

There is a lot of weird dialog like that around the game. Like this one in LotSB

Shadow Broker: I'm surprised you brought the quarian, T'soni. She got her whole unit killed on Heastrom

Liara: You aren't laying a hand on anyone!

What Liara says has nothing to do with what he said!

I think that's her response to all of them.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 26 septembre 2010 - 05:07 .

[Nilfalasiel]

camoboy_19 wrote...

I'm not sure on that bit, Considering it's been a few centuries since the Quarians have built/seen their stations. It's tragic how Tali can't notice her people's work.

I dunno. She has been to Haestrom, and that also has ancient quarian architecture. If anything, she might've been able to make a parallel between what she saw there and that station.

Although it is a good point that the quarians stripped the station as they left. There's definitely plenty of geth stuff in there. I'm not sure whether the geth added to the outside structure of the place though: it looks pretty homogenous from the outside.

The medigel is definitely much harder to justify. Even if the quarians had left it behind when they abandoned the station, would it still be good to use after all this time? Does medigel go off, I wonder?

[camoboy_19]

Nilfalasiel wrote...

camoboy_19 wrote...

I'm not sure on that bit, Considering it's been a few centuries since the Quarians have built/seen their stations. It's tragic how Tali can't notice her people's work.

I dunno. She has been to Haestrom, and that also has ancient quarian architecture. If anything, she might've been able to make a parallel between what she saw there and that station.

Although it is a good point that the quarians stripped the station as they left. There's definitely plenty of geth stuff in there. I'm not sure whether the geth added to the outside structure of the place though: it looks pretty homogenous from the outside.

The medigel is definitely much harder to justify. Even if the quarians had left it behind when they abandoned the station, would it still be good to use after all this time? Does medigel go off, I wonder?

Hm...  If they expire, worse case scenario is that you get a rash.

[Someone With Mass]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

The real question is why the geth keep medi-gel kits lying around the station.

Same reason the Normandy don't.

[camoboy_19]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

Not to mention that medi-gel wasn't even invented when the quarians fled. It was invented by the human company Sirta Foundation.

*Mind blown*

Okay, Geth are needlessly looting for Medi-gel as souviniers

[camoboy_19]

mrsph wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

I think that's her response to all of them.

It is. But Tali's is the only one that doesn't make sense with what the Shadowbroker said.

Liara: Indiscriminately responding to other species since 2176.

[Someone With Mass]

Just some oversights.

[camoboy_19]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

Why is it that giant weird things like how you make a Reaper out of human goo doesn't bother me, but stupid crap like why the geth have medi-gel eats a hole in my brain?

Also, do you figure Tali chose to join the crew of the Neema specifically because it was the ship Han served on? Like her dad was sending her off but to someplace where there was still somebody he knew could keep an eye out for her?

I agree with that. He figured Tali needed someone to watch her cause he never did a good job himself. Also, the Reaper-Human doesn't bug you? Not even the fact that they could've made goo out of all your friends?

[Nilfalasiel]

camoboy_19 wrote...

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

Why is it that giant weird things like how you make a Reaper out of human goo doesn't bother me, but stupid crap like why the geth have medi-gel eats a hole in my brain?

Also, do you figure Tali chose to join the crew of the Neema specifically because it was the ship Han served on? Like her dad was sending her off but to someplace where there was still somebody he knew could keep an eye out for her?

I agree with that. He figured Tali needed someone to watch her cause he never did a good job himself. Also, the Reaper-Human doesn't bug you? Not even the fact that they could've made goo out of all your friends?

That sounds like a reasoning Rael could have, but not necessarily one Tali would have. Don't think she would automatically choose the Neema just because a friend of her dad's was on there. Especially since she never seemed very close to her dad. Still, she could've figured it was better to go on a ship where she knew someone, rather than one where everyone was a stranger. But in that case, I would've seen her picking the Tonbay because Shala was on it. She definitely seemed to be more friendly with Shala than with Han.

[camoboy_19]

Nilfalasiel wrote...

camoboy_19 wrote...

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

Why is it that giant weird things like how you make a Reaper out of human goo doesn't bother me, but stupid crap like why the geth have medi-gel eats a hole in my brain?

Also, do you figure Tali chose to join the crew of the Neema specifically because it was the ship Han served on? Like her dad was sending her off but to someplace where there was still somebody he knew could keep an eye out for her?

I agree with that. He figured Tali needed someone to watch her cause he never did a good job himself. Also, the Reaper-Human doesn't bug you? Not even the fact that they could've made goo out of all your friends?

That sounds like a reasoning Rael could have, but not necessarily one Tali would have. Don't think she would automatically choose the Neema just because a friend of her dad's was on there. Especially since she never seemed very close to her dad. Still, she could've figured it was better to go on a ship where she knew someone, rather than one where everyone was a stranger. But in that case, I would've seen her picking the Tonbay because Shala was on it. She definitely seemed to be more friendly with Shala than with Han.

yeah, As long as she's not on the Qwib-Qwib. Maybe her dad recommended her to the Neema.