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They could just show a random unmasked quarian to give an idea at what she may sort of look like.

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GodWood wrote...

They could just show a random unmasked quarian to give an idea at what she may sort of look like.

And, why exactly wouldn't they just show Tali's face?
Please don't come with that random "Oooh, it's the enigma" or "People have their perfect image of her now" stuff, that's just shallow. Whatever Tali looks like, it's her personality that drew us in; if you're romancing her because of the way you think she looks, you should consider Liara or Miranda instead.

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I wouldn't be upset if they didn't show Tali face per se but I still would like to have a impression of what Quarians in general look like under that mask/suit. All they have to do is include an extranet photos of Quarins pre-exile status on Rannoch. That would satisify my curiousity and still keep Tali's exact appearance a mystery.

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Liara and Miranda have completely different personalities from Tali. Everyone likely has an image in their mind of what Tali looks like and, as it's a roleplaying game, I don't see the problem with this. People will need to adjust their perceptions if Tali's or any quarian's face is revealed, but until that time comes, anyone is free to think of her as an elven beauty to something out of HR Geiger's mind. Discussing this issue only gives each person a perspective into their own imagination.

I lean toward HR Geiger.

Modifié par Pacifien, 28 septembre 2010 - 05:12 .


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Thundertactics wrote...

GodWood wrote...
They could just show a random unmasked quarian to give an idea at what she may sort of look like.

And, why exactly wouldn't they just show Tali's face?

It was a suggestion absed on the fact that others apparently do not want to see her.

Please don't come with that random "Oooh, it's the enigma" or "People have their perfect image of her now" stuff, that's just shallow.

I want to see her face so I know what quarians look like.
Its silly that everyone in the universe knows except the player.

Whatever Tali looks like, it's her personality that drew us in; if you're romancing her because of the way you think she looks, you should consider Liara or Miranda instead.

Dude, Jack's my LI.

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Pacifien wrote...

Liara and Miranda have completely different personalities from Tali. Everyone likely has an image in their mind of what Tali looks like and, as it's a roleplaying game, I don't see the problem with this. People will need to adjust their perceptions if Tali's or any quarian's face is revealed, but until that time comes, anyone is free to think of her as an elven beauty to something out of HR Geiger's mind. Discussing this issue only gives each person a perspective into their own imagination.

I lean toward HR Geiger.

What I'm trying to say is, if you are against showing Tali's face simply because it would ruin your perception of her, I consider that rather low; apparantly her personality isn't enough for you. Hence you should stick with an already defined character you may consider good looking or whatever.

(By the way, this usage of the second person is meant to be plural, not directed towards you, Pacifien)

Same counts for "The enigma", I fail to see how "mystery", or rather an omission of facts, could somehow determine your attraction towards Tali. Tali has a face of sorts, deal with it.

Sure, I have my own interpretation of Tali's face, but I won't suddenly be turned off or upset if BioWare decides to debunk it; I like Tali as a love interest for who she is, not for what she looks like.

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Dude, Jack's my LI.

Not directed towards you, personally. Mainly against the whole "not showing her face" discussion going on, in which you were participating.
Also, considered adding Jack in there, but my visits to the regular forums so far have indicated I'm one of the few who actually likes her personality and looks. And for that she didn't really fit the "for the looks" choice of LI I tried to outline. (Not saying Liara and Miranda are shallow like that, merely implying they are more fit to be romanced for such reasons)

Modifié par Thundertactics, 28 septembre 2010 - 05:30 .


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Pacifien wrote...

Liara and Miranda have completely different personalities from Tali. Everyone likely has an image in their mind of what Tali looks like and, as it's a roleplaying game, I don't see the problem with this. People will need to adjust their perceptions if Tali's or any quarian's face is revealed, but until that time comes, anyone is free to think of her as an elven beauty to something out of HR Geiger's mind. Discussing this issue only gives each person a perspective into their own imagination.

I lean toward HR Geiger.


Had to look up HR Geiger for reference.  Interesting.   Judging Tali's more human-like facial features Image more on par with Asari.  Human enough but not quite. Definately no She-elf. 

I look at it this way. It's the future, the Quarians were once apart of the council races with an embassy. I sure Shepard could tap into some archive and pull up a Quarian Ambassador's speech arguing a case to remain apart of the  council races despite breaking the ban on AIs.  Fans who are curious are only asking for context in which to frame Tali's appearace. I'm sure the Quarians have a wide range of facial features just as they do with different accents.

 I would also like to see the  Female versions of Turians, Krogans, Salarians as well as what a Volus looks like under their encounter suit. I don't like unsolved mysteries.

Modifié par Eldareus, 28 septembre 2010 - 05:32 .


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I think Tali probably looks like a garden-variety anime babe: big eyes, small mouth, vapid expression. She seems to have been designed with that fan demographic in mind. And it fits with her personality. They'll probably give her some spots, forehead bumps, or the like, but I doubt they would stray far from a tried-and-true aesthetic for this most ardently lusted-after character.

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If they stay true to anything of her history, she won't be the supermodel that a few people hope for. Just an average face with an enduring smile is all I'm expecting, and even then it will be wonderful.

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Runescapeguy9 wrote...

If they stay true to anything of her history, she won't be the supermodel that a few people hope for. Just an average face with an enduring smile is all I'm expecting, and even then it will be wonderful.


I would be happy with plain or average. I confess, I would be disappointed if they looked like Vorcha.  

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Runescapeguy9 wrote...

If they stay true to anything of her history, she won't be the supermodel that a few people hope for. Just an average face with an enduring smile is all I'm expecting, and even then it will be wonderful.


This is what I am hoping for too. Maybe with a little "wear and tear" to show you how stressful her life really is.

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Indeed, Mass Effect already has Samara/Morinth, Miranda, and Liara, who have faces based on those of supermodels. We don't need another.

The way I'd imagine her face to be is humanoid enough that people can still find her physically attractive, but sufficiently different that there is no mistaking her for anything but an alien. Still, two things I most definitely do NOT want to see are, A: purple skin, and B: a "bumpy forehead".

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What if the player could chose weather or not to show her face?

Like a neutral vs paragon option or something?

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Spartanburger wrote...

What if the player could chose weather or not to show her face?
Like a neutral vs paragon option or something?

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Spartanburger wrote...

What if the player could chose weather or not to show her face?
Like a neutral vs paragon option or something?

That'd probably be the best way to do it. That way, any Tali romancer can be happy. There's  positiity on either decision, so no one is necessarily being better than the other.

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Runescapeguy9 wrote...

If they stay true to anything of her history, she won't be the supermodel that a few people hope for. Just an average face with an enduring smile is all I'm expecting, and even then it will be wonderful.

That's all I need.

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camoboy_19 wrote...

Runescapeguy9 wrote...

If they stay true to anything of her history, she won't be the supermodel that a few people hope for. Just an average face with an enduring smile is all I'm expecting, and even then it will be wonderful.

That's all I need.

I would honestly be happy with anything, but something that fits her would be lovely.

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Runescapeguy9 wrote...

camoboy_19 wrote...

Runescapeguy9 wrote...

If they stay true to anything of her history, she won't be the supermodel that a few people hope for. Just an average face with an enduring smile is all I'm expecting, and even then it will be wonderful.

That's all I need.

I would honestly be happy with anything, but something that fits her would be lovely.

I would expect no less, but I will accept Tali however she appears.

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Thundertactics wrote...

And, why exactly wouldn't they just show Tali's face?


They wouldn't show her face because Bioware already passed up the best opportunity to do so when she first revealed her face to Shepard. Showing her face now would be fanservice and fanservice sucks.

I'm with Godwood on this one. Show us some other quarian so that we know what the species looks like, but keep Tali hidden behind the veil.

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Thundertactics wrote... Same counts for "The enigma", I fail to see how "mystery", or rather an omission of facts, could somehow determine your attraction towards Tali. Tali has a face of sorts, deal with it.

Sure, I have my own interpretation of Tali's face, but I won't suddenly be turned off or upset if BioWare decides to debunk it; I like Tali as a love interest for who she is, not for what she looks like.



I am one of those Tali fans who like her for her personality as well as the 'air of mystique' about her face. I leave it up to my imagination on what Tali looks like, regardless, it's her charm and personality that draws me in. If they decide to show her face, however, I wouldn't mind, it would be nice and bring satisfaction to see what she looks like. If not, then "Oh well". Part of human nature is curiosity and being attracted to the novel, exotic, and unknown, which just adds to Tali's charm. Many people like Tali because of that very nature.

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camoboy_19 wrote...
I would expect no less, but I will accept Tali however she appears.

As would I. Tali isn't about physical appearances, but it would only add to and complete her character.

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Shandepared wrote...

Thundertactics wrote...

And, why exactly wouldn't they just show Tali's face?


They wouldn't show her face because Bioware already passed up the best opportunity to do so when she first revealed her face to Shepard. Showing her face now would be fanservice and fanservice sucks.

I'm with Godwood on this one. Show us some other quarian so that we know what the species looks like, but keep Tali hidden behind the veil.


You do know that Tali's romance was made because the fans requested it, right?
Same with Garrus.

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Many people like Tali because of that very nature.

A poll taken about two months ago blew this out of the water. Mystery is not a leading cause of people liking Tali.

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Runescapeguy9 wrote...

camoboy_19 wrote...
I would expect no less, but I will accept Tali however she appears.

As would I. Tali isn't about physical appearances, but it would only add to and complete her character.

I believe the majority love Tali because of her personality and devotion to the cause. Not to mention that she's one of the elements vital to Mass Effect 1 (Where else were you going to get proof on Saren?). With all this said, it wouldn't hurt to give her a face. Her personality is magnetic, her figure is attractive, but we are still curious about her face, not as motivation to like her but as an peice of her character we still look for to understand her.

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Runescapeguy9 wrote...

LordPennlocke wrote...
Many people like Tali because of that very nature.

A poll taken about two months ago blew this out of the water. Mystery is not a leading cause of people liking Tali.


So you're saying that being attracted to the mundane is human nature? People in general are attracted to novelty. To some people it ADDS to the attraction towards Tali, to some it doesn't. I'm not saying it's THE main reason.