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#4026
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Any role the quarian fleet is going to fill in the battle against the Reapers is going to be purely support and not out and out warfare.



Probably by helping to evacuate civivies (like Bring down the Sky implies)

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snfonseka wrote...

camoboy_19 wrote...

mrsph wrote...

The quarian fleet may be large but it is really not that big of a threat. A lot of those ships are 300 years old and barely work anymore.

With a little reinforcing from other groups (And Shepard) I really wouldn't want to fight it.


Quarians are weak for standard military open war, even Kal'Reegar admited that to Shep. They may have big fleet (by the number of ships) but that doesn't mean they are ready for war.

Think about what you are saying, quarians vs. (humans + turians +asari + salarians), what is the probability of survival for quarians? quarians even didn't manage to launch a succesful counterstrike againts geth who took control of Alarei...

It wasnt a serious discussion.

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camoboy_19 wrote...

Why doesn't Garrus give me bro talks? Lol

You should be able to just make random small talk with Tali, though. Zaeed and Kasumi are good models for it, but it would definitely have to be more detailed/integrated IMO.


Legion kinda had a bro talk with Shepard, saying something about having superior code. Doubt Legion would tell anyone else that. Random small talk would be nice, maybe akin to the teasing  if Tali was brought along during Mordin's loyalty, or more of integration into the random small assignments like the missing credit chit.

Modifié par LordPennlocke, 01 octobre 2010 - 03:32 .


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LordPennlocke wrote...

camoboy_19 wrote...

Why doesn't Garrus give me bro talks? Lol

You should be able to just make random small talk with Tali, though. Zaeed and Kasumi are good models for it, but it would definitely have to be more detailed/integrated IMO.


Legion kinda had a bro talk with Shepard, saying something about having superior code. Doubt Legion would tell anyone else that. Random small talk would be nice, maybe akin to the teasing  if Tali was brought along during Mordin's loyalty, or more of integration into the random small assignments like the missing credit chit.

Overall, we want more dialogue for our favorite quarian lol

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Anyone notice that despite Cerberus history, the only one on board to have ever said something nasty to Tali is Jacob?



I was surprised to say the least.

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camoboy_19 wrote...

Anyone notice that despite Cerberus history, the only one on board to have ever said something nasty to Tali is Jacob?

I was surprised to say the least.

Because they know if anyone says anything My shepard is going to bludgen them with their own spine.

I remember i once thought of writing a story about Miranda horribly insulting Tali. And shepard removes her biotic amp and makes locks her in a room with Jack.

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TheodoricFriede wrote...

camoboy_19 wrote...

Anyone notice that despite Cerberus history, the only one on board to have ever said something nasty to Tali is Jacob?

I was surprised to say the least.

Because they know if anyone says anything My shepard is going to bludgen them with their own spine.

I remember i once thought of writing a story about Miranda horribly insulting Tali. And shepard removes her biotic amp and makes locks her in a room with Jack.

I had a similar idea but it was just far more bloodier of a solution

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Whoa... I wander in and we're talking about violent fantasies of revenge against other squaddies insulting Tali?  Where'd the bloodlust come from?  Seriously... that's kinda... offputting.  :?

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MadCat221 wrote...

Whoa... I wander in and we're talking about violent fantasies of revenge against other squaddies insulting Tali?  Where'd the bloodlust come from?  Seriously... that's kinda... offputting.  :?

I have to channel my chi to others. Gets annoying if it all comes from me. No new word from the world of Tali fanart.

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MadCat221 wrote...

Whoa... I wander in and we're talking about violent fantasies of revenge against other squaddies insulting Tali?  Where'd the bloodlust come from?  Seriously... that's kinda... offputting.  :?

It's just Miranda.
I blame Bioware for making such wonderfully, possibly evil characters lol.

Dont mean to off put you however, it's all in good fun.

Anyways, Back to Tali..

Just wondering from anyone's perspective, how do you think Tali will be introduced in ME3?

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If it picks up right after the second game, I imagine she'd still be on the Normandy. Then she'd immediately get killed, and everyone at BioWare laughs at how epically they have trolled the fanbase.

But seriously, if you romanced her, one of the first things you should hear is some remark from one of your crew about Shepard's relationship with her. Like, "so...you and Tali, huh? Never saw that one coming..."

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Redcoat wrote...

If it picks up right after the second game, I imagine she'd still be on the Normandy. Then she'd immediately get killed, and everyone at BioWare laughs at how epically they have trolled the fanbase.

But seriously, if you romanced her, one of the first things you should hear is some remark from one of your crew about Shepard's relationship with her. Like, "so...you and Tali, huh? Never saw that one coming..."

I'm expecting her to still be on the ship with you, but I doubt Bioware would make it that easy, and leave you with your favorite characters (Garrus and Tali, you know it's true). I can hope though, I still got that chance :happy:

Modifié par camoboy_19, 01 octobre 2010 - 06:05 .


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Cerberus saw what happend to Saren when he pissed of Shepard. Imagine how pissed Shepard would get if people harassed Tali. :whistle:

But i am sure Tali can handle it herself, "I have a shotgun" and Garrus backed down more than a scared cat. 

Modifié par Haventh, 01 octobre 2010 - 07:56 .


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Haventh wrote...

Cerberus saw what happend to Saren when he pissed of Shepard. Imagine how pissed Shepard would get if people harassed Tali. :whistle:

But i am sure Tali can handle it herself, "I have a shotgun" and Garrus backed down more than a scared cat. 


She's grown up alot since ME1, standing up to Shepard on the Alarei when his/her differences of opinion are made. She isn't afraid to voice her concerns that's for sure. One could say she adopted and tried to emulate some of that assertiveness/confidence Shepard had sometime after the SR1 was destroyed.

Modifié par LordPennlocke, 01 octobre 2010 - 08:56 .


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Redcoat wrote...

If it picks up right after the second game, I imagine she'd still be on the Normandy. Then she'd immediately get killed, and everyone at BioWare laughs at how epically they have trolled the fanbase.

But seriously, if you romanced her, one of the first things you should hear is some remark from one of your crew about Shepard's relationship with her. Like, "so...you and Tali, huh? Never saw that one coming..."

Neh, she will not die because she is a romance option and if you romance her in ME2, someone else in ME1, I am fully expecting a cat fight showdown between Tali and whoever.

I cant wait to see Tali and Ash fighting over Shepard in my ME3 :whistle::whistle:

But knowing Bioware.... :( they probably make the gals gang up on poor Shepard... :o

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Tali doesn't strike me as the jeoulous or overly possessive type character, so I am not sure she would even get into a cat fight. She'll probably trust Shepard to talk the previous LI into accepting the change of status.




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Eldareus wrote...

Tali doesn't strike me as the jeoulous or overly possessive type character, so I am not sure she would even get into a cat fight. She'll probably trust Shepard to talk the previous LI into accepting the change of status.

Agreed, but i do beleive that she would be hurt more then anyone else should Shepard be unfaithful to her.

Edit: sorry that didnt really apply to the debate did it?

Modifié par TheodoricFriede, 01 octobre 2010 - 11:53 .


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Double post, terribly sorry.

Modifié par TheodoricFriede, 01 octobre 2010 - 11:53 .


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My first thought was Tali would be totally devasted if you are unfaithful to her due to her being a person who believes in duty, loyalty, and selflessness and the fact that Shepard is her first romantic love. But I think Tali is also aware of the hardships and difficulites a relationship with a Quarian might be for the non-quarian partner. Her enviro-suit and poor immunity is a major obstacle for any non-quarion to overcome. So I'm not really sure how she would react. Maybe very sad at first then understanding, or maybe very devasted and then extremely pissed off.

Modifié par Eldareus, 01 octobre 2010 - 12:52 .


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Eldareus wrote...

My first thought was Tali would be totally devasted if you are unfaithful to her due to her being a person who believes in duty, loyalty, and selflessness and the fact that Shepard is her first romantic love. But I think Tali is also aware of the hardships and difficulites a relationship with a Quarian might be for the non-quarian partner. Her enviro-suit and poor immunity is a major obstacle for any non-quarion to overcome. So I'm not really sure how she would react. Maybe very sad at first then understanding, or maybe very devasted and then extremely pissed off.

She continually says "I understand if you need to find something... someone else" so I'm not too sure either.

Is she saying that for the characters benefit? Or is she really understanding?

I'd be inclined to believe that, at the consecration (Right before the Omega-4 Relay suicide mission) it's sort of set in stone and if you do anything unfaithful, she would be annoyed. Perhaps, as you said "extremely pissed off."

Though, due to her apparent understanding nature, she might not be either, kinda hard to tell. I wouldn't risk it anyway.

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One thing is for sure you would lose her trust and once that is gone, I doubt you could ever win it back. Plus she does have a little mean streak in her, so it may not be worth the risk to get on her badside.

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Shandepared wrote...
There are perfectly good reasons to take Veetor. We need more than omni-tool readings, we need to know how the attack started exactly. Did Veetor see a ship? Did the Collectors search for him? How did he hide?

Trusting the Migrant Fleet to inform Cerberus if they uncover something is a huge leap of faith. I trust Tali, but I don't trust her superiors.

This would be a great point if it didn't rely upon trusting Cerberus more than the Migrant Fleet.

Trusting.  Cerberus.

Let that percolate a little.

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Alexine wrote...

If BW had included some more Tali friendship dialogue, what would you liked to have? Tali's probably on the same level as Garrus having the lack of dialogue if you didn't want to romance her (she's a bit better than Garrus, since she appeared during Freedom's Progress and have some other dialogue if you mod her in the early stages of the game.

Personally, I would like some friendly banter of some sorts if you decide not to romance her. I think that Tali could be a good character to talk about your current romance options, since I do imagine her to be someone to easily talk about matters such as romance and falling outs.

The idea of getting relationship advice from her is hilarious.  I can see her talking about dating on the Flotilla, and quarian courthsip and how you just can't get any privacy or something else half d'aaaaawww-inducing/half heartbreaking.  She'd start out with advice and all the sudden it would be codex-mode engaged!  Very Tali, in other words.

Also:  stories of an ongoing prank war between her and Garrus.

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I'd like to hear her talk about what she's been up to for the last two years while Shep was dead. Besides going away on suicidal/downright stupid missions which the admiralty board came up with.